Are there any Zappa lyrics you like, or do you listen to FZ the composer/player?
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)
So, when did he write "I sleep in a jar" then?
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
You cheated me baby,And told some dirty lies about meFooled around with all those other guysThat's why I had to set you freeI sure don't need you nowAnd I don't love youAnymore
A year ago todayYou went awayAnd now you come back cryingCrying, crying: please, let me inBut I don't need youNo I don't love you anymoreSo go lean on...go cry onSomebody else's door
Go cryOn somebody else's shoulderI'm somewhat wiser nowAnd one whole year olderI sure don't need you nowAnd I don't love youAnymore (Oh, my darling!)
(Spoken:)Go ahead and cryGo ahead and let the tears fall outa your eyeLet 'em fall on your dressWho cares if it makes a mess?I gave you my high school ringAt the root beer standWe had a teen-age love babyI thought it was sharpIt was really so grand...but
You cheated me babyAnd told some dirty lies about meFooled around with all those other guysThat's why I had to get my khakis pressedI sure don't need you nowAnd I don't love youAnymore
(Spoken:)Baby, I love you so much, darlingWhy don't you dig me?I dig youBut you don't dig meI don't understand what it isI had my car re-upholsteredI got my hair processedI got a nice pompadour job on itI bought a new pair of shoesI got some new khakis and I met youAnd we went out to get a Coca-Cola..."
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)
"The jar is under the bed."
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)
― Keith C (kcraw916), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)
"oh no" is the best lyrical zappa ever.
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
Oh noI don't believe itYou say that you think you knowThe meaning of loveDo you really think it can be told?You say that you really knowI thinkYou should check it againHow can you sayWhat you believeWill be the key to aWorld of love?
All your love -Will it save me?All your love -Will it save the worldFrom what we can't understandOh noI don't believe it
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)
― David Allen (David Allen), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)
I like "Uncle Remus," but I notice it's cowritten by George Duke, and I wouldn't be surprised if the lyric was the part he contributed.
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)
― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)
the biggest complaint (and most justifiable) are that many of his lyrics are too blunt, straight-forward, and un-artistic. sometimes that works (e.g., "honey, don't you want a man like me?" -- about a one-night stand b/w two pretty dumb, shallow people), sometimes it doesn't (e.g., "suicide chump" and "dancing fool").
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)
There will come a time when everybodyWho is lonely will be free...TO SING DANCE LOVE
There will come a time when every evilThat we know will be an evil...THAT WE CAN RISE ABOVE
Who cares if hair is long or shortor sprayed or partly grayed...WE KNOW THAT HAIR AIN'T WHERE IT'S AT
(there will come a time when you won'teven be ashamed if you are fat!)
WAH WAH-WAH WAH
There will come a time when everybodyWho is lonely will be free...TO SING DANCE LOVE (dance and love)
There will come a time when every evilthat we know will be an evil...THAT WE CAN RISE ABOVE (rise above)
Who cares if you're so poor you can't affordTo buy a pair of Mod A Go-Go stretch-elastic pants...THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN YOU CAN EVENTAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF WHEN YOU DANCE
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)
the line about knocking the jockey's off the rich peoples' lawns!
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)
I agree his lyrics have a slapped-together and almost careless feel to them, but to me the measure of how good lyrics are is whether or not I pay attention to them when I'm listening to the song. And for Zappa, I find it hard not to smile when I'm listening to him.
I mean, with all the banal love songs, the I hate-myself-dirges, the tiresome 'let's have a good time' party songs, and the incalculable amount of horrible poetry in popular music, I find it a bit unfair to pick on Zappa for his lyrics.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)
― W i l l (common_person), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)
― W i l l (common_person), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)
Better look around before you say you don't careShut your fuckin' mouth about the length of my hairHow would you surviveIf you were aliveShitty little person?
...overlaid perfectly over all those little bitty notes is close to genius. But sometimes it totally fell flat. (I'll hunt for examples of that as the day goes on.)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)
"yo moma""keep it greasy""flakes""joe's garage"
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)
I think of "Mother People" on We're Only in it for the Money.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)
I put "We're Only In It For the Money" on while I was thinking about all this, and just got a huge laugh out of the lyric/music interface of:
DON'T COME IN ME, IN MEDON'T COME IN ME, IN MEDON'T COME IN ME, IN MEDON'T COME IN ME, IN ME
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)
Fuzzy dice, bongos in the backMy ship of love is ready to attack"
"I don't even care if your dad's the heat."
I always thought he said "I don't even care if your dad's a he."
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, I think that was one of the biggest rock venues in the LA area in the '50s or early '60s.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)
― Myonga Von Bongofury (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)
She was a debutante daisyWith a color-note organDeep in the streetShe drove a '59 Morgan"
― brianiac (briania), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)
hear hear! the one zappa song that i've found beyond the pale is "jumbo go away" (off of the otherwise impeccable you are what you is), which is about the fat groupie girlfriend of one of the bandmembers -- who has, um, hygiene issues (worms and VD, inter alia) and who gets slapped around a bit.
the song "you are what you is" is 1/2 acceptable and 1/2 questionable. next post, i'll post the lyrics and you can judge which is which (and who is who).
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)
― Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)
A foolish young man From a middle class fam'ly Started singin' the blues 'Cause he thought it was manly Now he talks like the Kingfish ("Saffiiiee!") From Amos 'n Andy ("Holy mack'l dere . . . Holy mack'l dere!") He tells you that chitlins . . . (Chitlins!) Well, they taste just like candy He thinks that he's got De whole thang down From the Nivea Lotion To de Royal Crown
Do you know what you are? You are what you is You is what you am (A cow don't make ham . . . ) You ain't what you're not So see what you got You are what you is An' that's all it 'tis
A foolish young man Of the Negro Persuasion Devoted his life To become a caucasian He stopped eating pork He stopped eating greens He traded his dashiki("Uhuru!") For some Jordache Jeans He learned to play golf An' he got a good score Now he says to himself "I AIN'T NO NIGGER NO MORE . . . HEY! HEY! HEY!" "I don't understand you . . . " BWANA MA-COO-BAH "Would you please speak more clearly . . . " MERCEDES BAINNNNNNNZ
Who is who (I don't know . . . ) 'N what is what (Somethin' I just don't know . . . ) 'N why is this (Tell me now . . . ) Appropriot (That's a funny pronunciation if'n ever I heard one . . . ) If you don't like (Where'd you get that word?) What you has got (Appropriot? The word is not . . . ) Drop it in the dirt (Drop it yeah . . . ) 'N let it rot (I can smell it now . . . ) Someone else (Here de come, here de come . . . ) Will surely come (I told you they was comin') 'N pick it up (That's right!) 'Cause he wants some (An' he wants it for free . . . ) And when one day (There will come a day . . . ) You wonder who (I wonder too . . . ) You used to was (Who I was anyway . . . ) 'N what you do (I used to work at the post office . . . ) You'll scratch your head (But I don't wanna un-do my doo . . . ) 'N look around (Just to see what's goin' on . . . ) But what you lost (Can't seem to find it . . . ) Will not be found (A Mercedes Benz . . . )
Do you know what you are? (I know . . . ) You are what you is (I'm the kinda guy . . . ) You is what you am (That ought to be drivin' . . . ) A cow don't make a ham (A four-fifty SLC . . . ) You ain't what you're not (A big ol' red one . . . ) So see what you got (With some golf clubs stickin' out de trunk . . . ) You are what you is (I'm gwine down to de links on Saturday mornin' . . . ) An' that's all it is (Gimme a five dollar bill . . . ) YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS (And an overcoat too . . . ) AND THAT'S ALL IT IS (Where's my waitress? Yeah . . . ) YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS (Robbie, take me to Greek Town . . . ) AN THAT'S ALL IT IS (I'm harder than yer husband; harder than yer husband . . . ) YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS (I'm goin' down to White Street, to the Mudd Club y'all . . . ) AN THAT'S ALL IT IS (I'm goin' down 'n work the wall 'n work the floor . . . ) YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS('N work the pipe 'n work the wall . . . ) AN THAT'S ALL IT IS(Some more . . . )
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)
--
give meyour dirty lovelike you might surrenderto some dragon in your dreamsgive meyour dirty lovelike a pink donationto the dragon in your dreams
i don't need your sweet devotioni don't want your cheap emotionjust whip me up some dragon lotionfor your dirty loveyour dirty love
give meyour dirty lovelike some tacky little pamphletin your daddy's bottom drawergive meyour dirty lovei don't believe you have ever seenthat book before
i don't need no consolationi don't want your reservationi only got one destinationan' that's your dirty love
(righteous guitar solo)
give meyour dirty lovejust like your mamamake her fuzzy poodle dogive meyour dirty loveyhe way your mamamake that nasty poodle chew
i'll ignore your cheap aromaand your little-bo-peep diplomai'll just put you in a comawith some dirty love
poodle bites/poodle chews it, etc.
aroma + diploma + coma = woot.
― cobra commander (cobra commander), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)
i also include "50/50," which lyrically is fine (zappa making fun of shouty early 70s rock-and-rollers like daltrey, plant, gillian, etc.) but kind of annoying as it is sung (which is, i think, the point -- STILL it's annoying).
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)
― charleston charge (chaki), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)
is that a sears poncho or a regular poncho?
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)
= most classic Zappa line of all time
― Joe (Joe), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)
― nickn (nickn), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)
naww, there's much goodness on you are what you is. "goblin girl" and his troika of political songs -- "the meek shall inherit nothing"/"dumb all over"/"heavenly bank account" -- are lyrically some of his best (the latter three are also QUITE timely).
now, if we were talking about thing-fish as an 80s zappa dud, i would have to largely concur :-)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)
LL bean. excellent question.
― cobra commander (cobra commander), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)
Also "He's So Gay" c/d?
― I got the job because I was so mean, while somehow appearing so kind. (AaronHz), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)
"A mountain is something you don't wanna fuck withYou don't wanna fuck withDon't fuck aroundDon't fuck with Billy, NoAnd don't fuck with EthelYou saw what just happenedTo the guy with the flies"
― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)
― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)
His lyrics were mostly a big turnoff for me.
But, since the post-mothers zappa thread recently, I revisited the zappa section of my cd rack and put in the ones I slammed on that thread to see how I felt about them now: Joe's Garage + You Are What You Is. I then went about my business with it just playing in the background. To my surprise, I found myself laughing and really enjoying it.
maybe the secret is to not really pay attention until something catches your ear. I used to put a zappa album on and stare at the ceiling just listening to it and his goofiness drove me nuts. This time, it just sounded FUN TO BE ALIVE. Also, before I used to seriously doubt that he never did drugs, but listening to him last night, he sounds like a very focused caffeine nut. He enjoys the little idiosyncrisies of people and life way to much to be on drugs, even acid. There are some intense and complex acid bands, but few of them plan out the music so unrelentingly as he did. If he was doing acid, his music would be a lot less crazy, actually. And less funny.
So, god damn it, I'm finally ready to answer that question. Does humor belong in music? In Frank's it does!
― For Zealots, Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)
-- Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (crump...), March 19th, 2005.
Bobby Brown isn't mean spirited! It's just a story about a chump closet case. Funny little oddities of true life examined honestly for the bizarre humor in it all.
― For Zealots, Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)
― truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)
― For Zealots, Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)
Anyhow, with that in mind: I always liked how Zappa would intentionally mispronounce (or invent) a word, or use improper sentence structure or otherwise use improper grammar just 'cause it plain SOUNDED GOOD that way. (A technique both Zappa and Beefheart borrowed from the bluesmen they idolized. A few favourites:
"They don't do no good/Never be workin' like they oughta should"
"You are what you is/You is what you am/You ain't what you're not"
"Never flush a tampoon!" (OK, that one's pretty juvenile. But at least it was a rhyme with "afternoon")
"Pretty soon there won't be no street/For dummies to jog on or doggies to dog on"
I also personally liked the rhyming of "poncho" and "unconscio". And that "Stomp & smash & bash & crash & slash & bust & burn" line sure rolls off the tongue nicely.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 2 February 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)
Stevie's Spanking
His name is Stevie Vai,And he's a crazy guyLast November, I recall,He needed a spanking
He decided thenA female specimenWould be exciting for a nightTo give him a spanking
Laurel was her nameShe came to Notre DameHe told me just the other nightHe oughta be thankingHer for the spanking
She was large and softAnd she beat him offMade him drool upon his dorkAnd gave it a wankingAfter the spanking
Hair brush!Oh! What a hair brush!(It's not that he requires grooming!Guys with light blue hair never do!)
Then did she exclaim:"There's another gameThat we can play with this device,And then a banana!"
It was slightly greenVapors in betweenRising up to fill the roomAnd cook the banana
Later in the dawn,Laurel carried onGot right up and dressed herself andAte the banana
Truck Driver Divorce
Truck driver divorce!It's very sad(Steel guitarsUsually weep all over it)
The bold & intelligentMASTERS OF THE ROADWith their Secret Language,And the GIANTOVER-SIZEDMECHANICALTRANS-CONTINENTALHOBBY-HORSE!
Truck driver divorce!It's very sad!Oh the wife!Oh the kids!Oh the waitress!Oh the drive all night!
Sometimes when you get homeSome ugly lookin' son-of-a-bitchIs trying to pooch yerHOME-TOWN SWEETHEART!
Oh, go ride the bull!Oh, go ride the bull!Make it go up 'n down'N when you fall off,You can eat the mattress!
TRUCK DRIVER DIVORCE!IT'S VERY SAD!Bust yer assTo deliver some string beans,Deliver some string beans,Deliver some string beans,To UTAH!
― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 February 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)
-- For Zealots (fz@) (webmail), February 2nd, 2006 10:24 AM.
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Got a cheerleader here, wants to help with my paperLet her do all the work, maybe later I'll rape 'er
lolz at rapez & faggits -- roffles, even
― truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)
― For Zealots, Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)
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― For Zealots, Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)
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― For Zealots, Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)
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― For Zealots, Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)
― For Zealots, Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)
Evelyn, a modified dogViewed the quivering fringe of a special doilyDraped across the piano, with some surpriseIn the darkened roomWhere the chairs dismayedAnd the horrible curtainsMuffled the rainShe could hardly believe her eyesA curious breezeA garlic breathWhich sounded like a snoreSomewhere near the Steinway (or even from within)Had caused the doily fringe to waft & tremble in the gloomEvelyn, a dog, having undergoneFurther modificationPondered the significance of short-person behaviorIn pedal-depressed panchromatic resonanceAnd other highly ambient domains...Arf she said
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 October 2023 18:53 (one year ago)
he was a weird writer! just in the way he constructs lines. what a weirdo! ha. i guess that's what everyone has always said. what a weirdo!
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 October 2023 18:54 (one year ago)
I'm guessing fz was somewhat influenced by his old friend van vliet.
― Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 21 October 2023 19:04 (one year ago)