List Official Chuck Eddy Canon Albums You Own and Like and Comment on Them

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Teena Marie - Emerald City
Taylor Dayne - Can't Fight Fate
L'Trimm - Drop That Bottom
Will to Power - Journey Home
Kix - Blow My Fuse

Journey Home is probably the one I've gotten into the least of all of these, at least so far. Can certainly say that the rest are all VERY GOOD.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and Girlschool's Hit and Run which is very good, but maybe loses a little steam on Side Two. And Boney M's Night Flight to Venus (the most common one you can find in the U.S.), which is obviously just totally stellar. And Disco Tex...

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

He's so right about Amy Grant's "Heart in Motion."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Sabbath's "Sabotage" (is the first one to come to me mind)

Was the highest Sab entry in the Stairway book. Which's only right :)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Lots of them are in my canon too. If I had a canon. Too many to mention. But i think he might have been wrong about that Paris album and at least one Lucifer's Friend album.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

I can't comment on them all, I'll be here all day! I'll pick something obscurish he likes and talk about that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Canon albums, hmmm.....Wait, is *For Those About to Rock We Salute You* in my canon? (Or only in AC/DC's?) 'Cause I think that one's kind of overrated, when you get down to it.

chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

There's a cannon on "For Those About to Rock."

George Smith, Monday, 7 March 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Albums in Stairway To Hell's top 100 that I've got

1. Led Zeppelin IV (the correct placement)
2. Guns'n'Roses, Appetite For Destruction (the non-singles blur together for me but I need to listen to it a lot more)
3. Alice Cooper, Greatest Hits (I enjoy it but not this much)
4. Aerosmith, Toys In The Attic (great, but prefer Rocks)
5. Kix, Kix (solid album, not this into it)
6. New York Dolls (likewise)
8. Neil Young & Crazy Horse (my fave NY but its not in Accidental Evolution so I'm guessing chuck ain't as big on it now)
10. Jimmy Castor, Phase Two (I enjoy this album a lot)
11. Kix, Blow My Fuse (better than Midnite Dynamite but still OF that. singles kick copious ass)
12. Van Halen, 1984 (hella overrated. "I'll Wait" is fucking Van Hagar prelude. I love "Panama" and "Hot For Teacher" and maybe "Jump.")
14. Nuggest, Volume One: The Hits (Quite good, yes)
15. Mott The Hoople, Mott (love the opener and closer, need to listen harder)
17. Aerosmith, Gems (quite good, yes)
19. Def Leppard, Hysteria (should be top 5)
20. Black Sabbath, Sabotage (the filler doesn't thrill me but its pretty terrific)
24. AC/DC, High Voltage (Chuck hadn't heard Powerage when he made this book. This is the second best)
25. Aerosmith, Rocks (should be higher but it isn't even IN Accidental Evolution)
26. Stooges, Fun House (quite good, yes)
27. Black Sabbath, Paranoid (quite good, yes)
28. Sex Pistols, Never Mind The Bollocks (good, overrated)
29. Ted Nugent, Greatest Gonzos (good, overrated)
30. Beastie Boys, Licensed To Ill (quite good, yes)
33. Paul Revere & The Raiders, Greatest Hits (quite good, yes)
34. Kix, Cool Kids (quite good, yes)
35. Poison, Open Up And Say...Ahh! (quite good, yes)
39. The Stooges, The Stooges (good, overrated)
45. Led Zeppelin, Houses Of The Holy (quite good, yes)
49. Cheap Trick, Heaven Tonight (I seriously don't get what makes this album so great, "Surrender" and "Auf Weiderschen" excepted)
51. Def Leppard, Pyromania (I really only love the opening three tracks on each side, though I don't dig "foolin'" oddly enough)
52. Aerosmith, Greatest Hits (this kind of fucking sucks actually)
55. Pere Ubu, Terminal Tower (quite good, yes)
60. Mott The Hoople, Brain Capers (my copy sounds like shit so I hesitate to judge)
63. Velvet Underground, White Light/White Heat (should be top 5)
66. Osmonds, Crazy Horses (way overrated. awesome singles but Phase III is better)
67. Billy Squier, Don't Say No (good singles but I really must assume that Chuck's copy doesn't see much play)
68. Angry Samoans, Back From Samoa (quite good, yes)
69. Who, Meaty Beaty Big & Bouncy (eh)
71. Cheap Trick, In Color (quite good, yes)
72. Motorhead, Orgasmatron (quite good, yes)
73. Prince And The Revolution, Purple Rain (should be top 5)
74. Angry Samoans, Inside My Brain (quite good, yes)
80. Kix, Midnight Dynamite (some good tracks, but WAY overrated. Half of this really bothers me - the ugliest of the four Kix albums I have)
88. Ian Hunter, You're Never Alone With Schizophrenic (maybe if I could tell what Ian was saying more)
90. Van Halen, Van Halen (should be much higher)
92. G'N'R, Lies (love Patience but I really don't give a shit about Axl-drama, sorry)

miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

huhuh, "this pee"

miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

albums anthony listed which i no longer own (though maybe i should):

72. Motorhead, Orgasmatron

(as usual, anthony overrates "consistency". but i do like his list.)

chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

I've never heard Emerald City but my ex-gf bought me this budget comp called Funk Biz that really does nothing for me aside from "Lovergirl." It has the title track and it's quirky but, yeah, lost on me.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

69. Who, Meaty Beaty Big & Bouncy (eh)

You're kidding me with this one, right?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

(I am referring to the comment.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

I like specific songs a lot, "Subsitute," esp. but I dunno the Who kinda bug me. this is all that I've got of theirs

miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

live at leeds is pretty great if you like airguitar and play it loud, the who sell out is pretty great too, they have their moments besides that but not enough

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

That is a fucking great collection.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

that particular comp also really suffers from the lousy (or at least very scattershot) production on the early who singles

mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

That's like saying Harry Smith's Anthology of Folk Music collections suffer due to sound.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

well it wd be if they did!!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

haha

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

I just can't listen to those Frances Densmore cylinder recordings of American Indians from the early 20th century. The sound suffers.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

the production on the early who singles is kinda approached totally differently every single time, so when you simply run them together one after another, it's like jumping all over the place aurally to no purpose — difft loudness, difft presence, difft balancing

smith - having a rather wider choice - selected his tracks to run into one another for all sorts of reasons inc.aural juxtaposition (plus anyway the "production" on 30s tracks pretty much makes everything sound "produced the same way", give or take, since tape and 4-track etc didn't get into studios until the late 50s: there isn't really any way to vary it)

mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

"it's like jumping all over the place aurally to no purpose"

Well, "no purpose" other than to listen to the songs (which, individually, actually sound pretty great for the most part)! I mean OK the album as sequenced is not a fantastic hi-fi listening pleasure experience. But records have different purpose and obviously the purpose of that album was to collect those sides together.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

"records have different purposes"

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

yes i know, and like i said it suffers (as an LP) from the problems of sequencing w/o a unifying mix-down: i had a better (double) (not-so-famous) comp which i liked more and (like a chump) sold many many MANY years ago

(i think it wz called "the story of the who")

mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

But I don't understand why people want to listen to greatest hits collections as AN ALBUM LENGTH PROGRAMME OF MUSIC. To me, they're collections. You might just listen to individual songs from it. Or if you're listening to it all the way through, you're just listening to it as a sequence of songs, not as a programme.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

"Live at Leeds" was a good live album that became even better when they expanded it out. I guess their label just didn't want to put out a double LP at the time, which is kind of hard to believe in hindsight.

At least to me, THE Van Halen album is either the first one or "Women and Children First". "House of Pain" and "Drop Dead Legs" are a pretty heavy way for the orginal VH to go out on the 1984 lp.

"Guns'n'Roses, Appetite For Destruction (the non-singles blur together for me" That album is all about "Mr. Brownstone", I liked it better than the singles.

Billy Squier, "Don't Say No"
This is a good album. I like that the production is stripped down and not really over blown. There is a few songs that remind me of the White Album on the second side. Squier's drummer Bobby Chouinard(sp?) was great.

earlnash, Monday, 7 March 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

in that case why stick up so valiantly for beaty and not a.n.other (better programmed) comp? ceddy didn't say "#69. a good who comp": stairway DOES evaluate LPs as LPs, that's part of the point of it? (isn't it?)

also i actually think the problem flagged up is quite unusual: no other major brit invasion group had the same probs w.their early recordings/labels/consistency of studio sound (esp.given how much their sound actually mattered to them live)

mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

My point is that the programming on Meaty Beaty doesn't matter because I don't see it as a programme. I like it because it's a great little collection of songs.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

*sigh*

my point is that anyone who isn't listening to it in your specialised and strangely abstract way is possibly maybe not "kidding you" when they find it a bit underwhelming for [reasons follow repeat ad infinitum]

mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

You've got to be kidding me in thinking that approaching an album (especially a greatest hits album) as a collection of songs where you might choose to listen to a couple of songs here and there or even the whole thing, but where you're not just sitting there expecting it to be The Dark Side of the Moon is "specialised and strangely abstract!"

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

52. Aerosmith, Greatest Hits (this kind of fucking sucks actually)

WTF, Anthony? How could you love their 70s albums and not like this? It's got the best songs.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

it's a depressing listen! the last 4/10s is crap! which is a lot for a hits comp. Gems is waaay better.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

miccio needs some MC5 stat.

Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

in hell I will be made to listen to chuck's 100 records

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

Eddy Canon = not just Stairway to Hell, but discography in Accidental Evolution

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

The "A For D" non-singles have grown on me over the years. Like earlnash, "Mr. Brownstone" is probably my favorite song on the album. "Rocket Queen," "My Michelle" and "Nightrain" are also great. And "It's So Easy" is an excellent karaoke song; a Major from our base does a great rendition on the local karaoke circuit.

John Fredland (jfredland), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

miccio needs some MC5 stat

I'm actually doing a thing in July for Stylus where I'll listen to all three MC5 albums (burning them from a friend) and give my initial reaction.

I'd list the Accidental stuff I have, but I don't have the library's copy of the book right now.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

that particular comp also really suffers from the lousy (or at least very scattershot) production on the early who singles

-- mark s, March 7th, 2005 2:05 PM.

That's like saying Harry Smith's Anthology of Folk Music collections suffer due to sound.

-- Tim Ellison, March 7th, 2005 2:06 PM.

au contraire, those early who singles are BETTER because of how they were produced. those bright, clean, trebly guitars. the in-your-face bass. the awesome sound of daltrey's voice. those singles had punch.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

I don't see "Emotional Rescue" or "Dirty Work" on that list, Chuck...

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

I bought the Disco Tex album because of Chuck's raves in Accidental Evolution. It's ok.

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

>Gems is waaay better.<


well, yeah, didn't I already say that?:

17. Aerosmith, Gems
52. Aerosmith, Greatest Hits

chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

>I don't see "Emotional Rescue" or "Dirty Work" on that list, Chuck... <

what list?? the anthony stuff was all from my metal book (and his collection). Though those may or may not be in *Accidental*, I dunno (LOTS of albums I love are in NEITHER book -- obviously including ones that have come out in the past decade or so!) (Though I don't know how canonization rules work. Isn't there some similarity between election of Saints and election to the Baseball of Fame, where you have to be retired for at least five years and spent at least ten years in the big leagues? Although Vatican II may have changed that.)

chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

well, yeah, didn't I already say that?

I was talking to Sundar, as to "the best songs" being on GH.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

well, okay, but you are wrong about the 4/10 crappage. more like 2/10 (= 1/5 = 20 percent), and they're the last two songs so who cares?:

NONCRAP:
1 Dream On Tyler 4:28
2 Same Old Song and Dance Perry, Tyler 3:01
3 Sweet Emotion Hamilton, Tyler 3:12
4 Walk This Way Perry, Tyler 3:31
5 Last Child Tyler, Whitford 3:27
6 Back in the Saddle Perry, Tyler 4:38
7 Draw the Line Perry, Tyler 3:21
8 Kings and Queens Douglas, Hamilton, Kramer ... 3:47
Composed by: Douglas, Hamilton, Kramer, Tyler, Whitford

CRAP:
9 Come Together Lennon, McCartney 3:45
10 Remember (Walking in the Sand)

chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

the Paris and Lucifer's Friend albums are great! scott's crazy.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

You don't have to spend 10 years in the big leagues to get into the Hall of Fame! Sandy Koufax and Kirby Puckett both played for only nine years each.

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

oops, baseball HALL of fame i meant above. (and i dunno about puckett -- plus i know they always make exceptions for general managers and people like that, right? but koufax has 12 years by my count):

http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/koufasa01.shtml

on the other hand i haven't paid attention to baseball since I was 13, so don't ask me what the rules are these days! Like I said, Vatican II and the designated hitter rule and Curt Flood wrecked everything.

and shadow morton wrote that shangri-las song (which i am still very happy that aerosmith had the good taste to cover, even though they kinda sucked at it.)

chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

kirby puckett 12 years too, sez here:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/puckeki01.shtml

chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

Aerosmith shoulda done "Train From Kansas City" instead. I really dislike "Kings and Queens" but on the whole, Draw the Line is a very underrated album. "Sight For Sore Eyes" and "Get It Up" are like the funkiest things they ever did...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

Aerosmith shoulda done "Train From Kansas City"

NO ONE EXCEPT THE SHANGRI-LA'S shoulda ever done "train from kansas city," a point that superchunk has already proved quite convincingly.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

aw, Superchunk's cover is fun!

miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

oh, did Superchunk already do it? I didn't know that.

ok, Aerosmith shoulda done "Sophisticated Boom Boom"

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

Knoxville Girls covered that one, I think.

Superchunk never seemed much fun to me, though I think I reviewed a singles comp by them for some magazine in the early '90s, and I vaguely remember their "Train to KC" being less not-fun than most of their other non-fun songs, for whatever that's worth.

chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

Teena Marie - Emerald City

Should include the phrase "Side One only."

(Although I care about consistency even less than Chuck does.)

"Lovergirl" not as good as any track on Side One of Emerald City. Not as good as "Behind the Groove" or "Square Biz" or a some of her other stuff either.

Also, bear in mind that in the CD era all albums are de facto EPs, at least on my player (that is, there's no way that I will ever play any David Banner or Celine Dion album all the way through after my first listen, yet both those artists have placed albums in my P&J top ten).

Albums on Tim's list that Chuck first listened to on my recommendation (I think):

Emerald City
Blow My Fuse

Album that I taped for Chuck in late '90/early '91:

The Best of Boney M Vol. 2

Xmas present from Patty Stirling to me, 1990:

The Best of Boney M Vol. 2

Band that was in 90% of the world's canon before Chuck or I ever paid them much attention:

Boney M

Best albums that Chuck has recommended to me:

Guns N' Roses Appetite for Destruction
Stacey Q Hard Machine
Midi, Maxi & Efti

Good album in its own right:

The Who Meaty Beaty Big & Bouncy

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

Oh, right, I didn't read the instructions. I'm supposed to comment:

Emerald City: Rocks. Harder than Aerosmith's Rocks rocks.

Drop That Bottom: Great bottom. Great top, too. Great midriff, as well.

Blow My Fuse: Slade gangshout reggae-echo effect on the title tune.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

NO ONE EXCEPT THE SHANGRI-LA'S shoulda ever done "train from kansas city," a point that superchunk has already proved quite convincingly.

Don;t sleep on Neko's version, cuz. Surprisingly compelling.

Chris O., Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Right, Kogan Kanon meshes with Eddy Canon. Sorry to shortchange you, Frank!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Please help me to distinguish between Frank Kogan and Chuck Eddy.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)


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