Journey Home is probably the one I've gotten into the least of all of these, at least so far. Can certainly say that the rest are all VERY GOOD.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)
Was the highest Sab entry in the Stairway book. Which's only right :)
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)
― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Monday, 7 March 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)
1. Led Zeppelin IV (the correct placement)2. Guns'n'Roses, Appetite For Destruction (the non-singles blur together for me but I need to listen to it a lot more)3. Alice Cooper, Greatest Hits (I enjoy it but not this much)4. Aerosmith, Toys In The Attic (great, but prefer Rocks)5. Kix, Kix (solid album, not this into it)6. New York Dolls (likewise)8. Neil Young & Crazy Horse (my fave NY but its not in Accidental Evolution so I'm guessing chuck ain't as big on it now)10. Jimmy Castor, Phase Two (I enjoy this album a lot)11. Kix, Blow My Fuse (better than Midnite Dynamite but still OF that. singles kick copious ass)12. Van Halen, 1984 (hella overrated. "I'll Wait" is fucking Van Hagar prelude. I love "Panama" and "Hot For Teacher" and maybe "Jump.")14. Nuggest, Volume One: The Hits (Quite good, yes)15. Mott The Hoople, Mott (love the opener and closer, need to listen harder)17. Aerosmith, Gems (quite good, yes)19. Def Leppard, Hysteria (should be top 5)20. Black Sabbath, Sabotage (the filler doesn't thrill me but its pretty terrific)24. AC/DC, High Voltage (Chuck hadn't heard Powerage when he made this book. This is the second best)25. Aerosmith, Rocks (should be higher but it isn't even IN Accidental Evolution)26. Stooges, Fun House (quite good, yes)27. Black Sabbath, Paranoid (quite good, yes)28. Sex Pistols, Never Mind The Bollocks (good, overrated)29. Ted Nugent, Greatest Gonzos (good, overrated)30. Beastie Boys, Licensed To Ill (quite good, yes)33. Paul Revere & The Raiders, Greatest Hits (quite good, yes)34. Kix, Cool Kids (quite good, yes)35. Poison, Open Up And Say...Ahh! (quite good, yes)39. The Stooges, The Stooges (good, overrated)45. Led Zeppelin, Houses Of The Holy (quite good, yes)49. Cheap Trick, Heaven Tonight (I seriously don't get what makes this album so great, "Surrender" and "Auf Weiderschen" excepted)51. Def Leppard, Pyromania (I really only love the opening three tracks on each side, though I don't dig "foolin'" oddly enough)52. Aerosmith, Greatest Hits (this kind of fucking sucks actually)55. Pere Ubu, Terminal Tower (quite good, yes)60. Mott The Hoople, Brain Capers (my copy sounds like shit so I hesitate to judge)63. Velvet Underground, White Light/White Heat (should be top 5)66. Osmonds, Crazy Horses (way overrated. awesome singles but Phase III is better)67. Billy Squier, Don't Say No (good singles but I really must assume that Chuck's copy doesn't see much play)68. Angry Samoans, Back From Samoa (quite good, yes)69. Who, Meaty Beaty Big & Bouncy (eh)71. Cheap Trick, In Color (quite good, yes)72. Motorhead, Orgasmatron (quite good, yes)73. Prince And The Revolution, Purple Rain (should be top 5)74. Angry Samoans, Inside My Brain (quite good, yes)80. Kix, Midnight Dynamite (some good tracks, but WAY overrated. Half of this really bothers me - the ugliest of the four Kix albums I have)88. Ian Hunter, You're Never Alone With Schizophrenic (maybe if I could tell what Ian was saying more)90. Van Halen, Van Halen (should be much higher)92. G'N'R, Lies (love Patience but I really don't give a shit about Axl-drama, sorry)
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)
72. Motorhead, Orgasmatron
(as usual, anthony overrates "consistency". but i do like his list.)
― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)
You're kidding me with this one, right?
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)
smith - having a rather wider choice - selected his tracks to run into one another for all sorts of reasons inc.aural juxtaposition (plus anyway the "production" on 30s tracks pretty much makes everything sound "produced the same way", give or take, since tape and 4-track etc didn't get into studios until the late 50s: there isn't really any way to vary it)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)
Well, "no purpose" other than to listen to the songs (which, individually, actually sound pretty great for the most part)! I mean OK the album as sequenced is not a fantastic hi-fi listening pleasure experience. But records have different purpose and obviously the purpose of that album was to collect those sides together.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)
(i think it wz called "the story of the who")
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)
At least to me, THE Van Halen album is either the first one or "Women and Children First". "House of Pain" and "Drop Dead Legs" are a pretty heavy way for the orginal VH to go out on the 1984 lp.
"Guns'n'Roses, Appetite For Destruction (the non-singles blur together for me" That album is all about "Mr. Brownstone", I liked it better than the singles.
Billy Squier, "Don't Say No"This is a good album. I like that the production is stripped down and not really over blown. There is a few songs that remind me of the White Album on the second side. Squier's drummer Bobby Chouinard(sp?) was great.
― earlnash, Monday, 7 March 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
also i actually think the problem flagged up is quite unusual: no other major brit invasion group had the same probs w.their early recordings/labels/consistency of studio sound (esp.given how much their sound actually mattered to them live)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)
my point is that anyone who isn't listening to it in your specialised and strangely abstract way is possibly maybe not "kidding you" when they find it a bit underwhelming for [reasons follow repeat ad infinitum]
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)
WTF, Anthony? How could you love their 70s albums and not like this? It's got the best songs.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)
― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)
― John Fredland (jfredland), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)
I'm actually doing a thing in July for Stylus where I'll listen to all three MC5 albums (burning them from a friend) and give my initial reaction.
I'd list the Accidental stuff I have, but I don't have the library's copy of the book right now.
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)
-- mark s, March 7th, 2005 2:05 PM.
That's like saying Harry Smith's Anthology of Folk Music collections suffer due to sound.
-- Tim Ellison, March 7th, 2005 2:06 PM.
au contraire, those early who singles are BETTER because of how they were produced. those bright, clean, trebly guitars. the in-your-face bass. the awesome sound of daltrey's voice. those singles had punch.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)
well, yeah, didn't I already say that?:
17. Aerosmith, Gems 52. Aerosmith, Greatest Hits
― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)
what list?? the anthony stuff was all from my metal book (and his collection). Though those may or may not be in *Accidental*, I dunno (LOTS of albums I love are in NEITHER book -- obviously including ones that have come out in the past decade or so!) (Though I don't know how canonization rules work. Isn't there some similarity between election of Saints and election to the Baseball of Fame, where you have to be retired for at least five years and spent at least ten years in the big leagues? Although Vatican II may have changed that.)
― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)
I was talking to Sundar, as to "the best songs" being on GH.
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)
NONCRAP:1 Dream On Tyler 4:28 2 Same Old Song and Dance Perry, Tyler 3:01 3 Sweet Emotion Hamilton, Tyler 3:12 4 Walk This Way Perry, Tyler 3:31 5 Last Child Tyler, Whitford 3:27 6 Back in the Saddle Perry, Tyler 4:38 7 Draw the Line Perry, Tyler 3:21 8 Kings and Queens Douglas, Hamilton, Kramer ... 3:47 Composed by: Douglas, Hamilton, Kramer, Tyler, Whitford
CRAP: 9 Come Together Lennon, McCartney 3:45 10 Remember (Walking in the Sand)
― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/koufasa01.shtml
on the other hand i haven't paid attention to baseball since I was 13, so don't ask me what the rules are these days! Like I said, Vatican II and the designated hitter rule and Curt Flood wrecked everything.
and shadow morton wrote that shangri-las song (which i am still very happy that aerosmith had the good taste to cover, even though they kinda sucked at it.)
― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/puckeki01.shtml
― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)
NO ONE EXCEPT THE SHANGRI-LA'S shoulda ever done "train from kansas city," a point that superchunk has already proved quite convincingly.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)
ok, Aerosmith shoulda done "Sophisticated Boom Boom"
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)
Superchunk never seemed much fun to me, though I think I reviewed a singles comp by them for some magazine in the early '90s, and I vaguely remember their "Train to KC" being less not-fun than most of their other non-fun songs, for whatever that's worth.
― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)
Should include the phrase "Side One only."
(Although I care about consistency even less than Chuck does.)
"Lovergirl" not as good as any track on Side One of Emerald City. Not as good as "Behind the Groove" or "Square Biz" or a some of her other stuff either.
Also, bear in mind that in the CD era all albums are de facto EPs, at least on my player (that is, there's no way that I will ever play any David Banner or Celine Dion album all the way through after my first listen, yet both those artists have placed albums in my P&J top ten).
Albums on Tim's list that Chuck first listened to on my recommendation (I think):
Emerald CityBlow My Fuse
Album that I taped for Chuck in late '90/early '91:
The Best of Boney M Vol. 2
Xmas present from Patty Stirling to me, 1990:
Band that was in 90% of the world's canon before Chuck or I ever paid them much attention:
Boney M
Best albums that Chuck has recommended to me:
Guns N' Roses Appetite for DestructionStacey Q Hard MachineMidi, Maxi & Efti
Good album in its own right:
The Who Meaty Beaty Big & Bouncy
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)
Emerald City: Rocks. Harder than Aerosmith's Rocks rocks.
Drop That Bottom: Great bottom. Great top, too. Great midriff, as well.
Blow My Fuse: Slade gangshout reggae-echo effect on the title tune.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)
Don;t sleep on Neko's version, cuz. Surprisingly compelling.
― Chris O., Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)