Common - "Corners" and Be album thread

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Watch the video there, i caught it on rap city today too; I like it a lot. Does this mean he's living in chicago again?

― djdee (djdee2005), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

couldn't stand the song at first, but it's kinda growing on me. the video helps.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah, not so into it. the grumbling vocal loop over the break is kinda cool.

my friend says this is the Love break (from, uh, "Out Here"). i listened to it once, it's like this crazy side long open break/drum solo.

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm surprised people don't like it, I guess its easy to think its a bit boring because of its nostalgia production, but I like Common's part on it, its certainly better than his last album.

― djdee (djdee2005), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)

no, this is great. my favorite common track since i don't know when. what's not to like?

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

I think Kanye's alright at hooks but this one is no good. and the Last Poets bit feels really awkwardly shoehorned in to me.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

yeah, the hook is just not really there, and common isn't my favorite anymore. i just relistened and he didn't bug me that much. he didn't say anything too stupid.

also, the dude from Sa Ra Creative Partners was in the video. can someone please listen to me when i say they're amazing. i'm gonna spout it in every thread i see applicable (and already some that it isn't)

http://www.art-ificial.com/indie/sa-ra.jpg

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 06:45 (twenty years ago)

these guys are big sa-ra fans, i think.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:08 (twenty years ago)

i like this song, and i haven't liked any common i've heard (but i've only heard his "girl i love you/girl i'm sorry" jams). tell you the truth, i was wanting more of the last poets guy and less common.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

and i like the production alot!

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

xxpost - one of the guys in ammon contact is carlos nino. he also put together Build an Arc, the super group of rehashed Impulse era jazz. he throws tons of hip hop/funk clubs in LA. Sa-Ra are from LA and i'm assuming he's homies with them.

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

start a sa-ra thread, jason, i don't want to derail this one.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)

there's no hook in this track. it's distributed throughout the beat. i think the hook is "the grumbling vocal loop over the break".

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

anyway you can't diss the last poets! they're the last poets! where's alex in nyc when you need him?

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

dude in the last poets looks like Sir Mix-a-lot

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

ugh hook chorus refrain whatever, I meant the part where Kanye says "I wish I could give you this feeling".

I haven't really heard much Last Poets so I can't say anything about them but I don't think they're deployed well in this song.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

Leave it to Kanye to capture the look of Chicago in that video, and also to cop the cool font SFX from "Panic Room." The song's good, but it sounds like an album's lead track, hopefully leading to even better stuff. Fingers crossed!

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

Sa-Ra are indeed great.

"Glorious" is my revisionist history #1 single of 2004.

― DJ Face Down in the River (ADK), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

don't know who Sa-Ra is but on 106&Park Common said that they're also with him on Kanye's G.O.O.D. label now.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

Does kanye do any songs on the new Doe or die album, do you know?

― djdee (djdee2005), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

he did the 1st single "Higher" but aside from that I dunno.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

The best part about the R Kelly single is R Kelly's "verse"

― djdee (djdee2005), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

There's one other Kanye track on the Do or Die album. Willynilly drums out of nowhere. Kanye's vocal entrance is fantastically lackadaisacal, something like "History in the making, ungh ungh," like he just barely made it into the booth on time.

Sa-Ra did the beat for Pharoah Monch's "Agent Orange." 50 Cent jacked it. At least one of the members has Dr. Dre connections. They'll probably be slotted into neo-soul no matter who they work for.

― DJ Face Down in the River (ADK), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

ooh I liked that "Agent Orange" track when Cocaine Blunts posted it once. what track did 50 use it for?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

Leave it to Kanye to... cop the cool font SFX from "Panic Room."

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 10 March 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

also, "food" is approximately 564% better than this

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 10 March 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

mark p OTM

I'm looking forward to the next Common single "Go" featuring John Mayer, though!

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 10 March 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

jeez i wouldn't go that far, its better but this ain't that bad. I like hearing him just spit over that break, no ornamentation or reproduced SOUL and I love that mood in "Food" but its cool that he's doing something like this, i think.

― djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 10 March 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...

I like the album a lot! Smooth, comforting old-man rap music, and this is a good thing. His raps are still corny on occasion but i can deal.

― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

I kinda don't want to keep hearing that this album is good because I've already been tricked into buying a Common album twice before and was not happy about it.

― Al (sitcom), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Yeah if its Common's rapping that bothers you as opposed to the beats/songs as a whole, then you probably won't dig it. His style is still that weird narration thing he does with "deep" new-agey refs, i just like the beats a WHOLE lot more than the last one.

― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

Oh and the song "Faithfull" is total cornball.

― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

The beats are definitely better (Corners is a good example of how the whole album sounds.), but it's still pretty boring. He raps like he wants to be your friend...all pleasant and not wanting to offend you (unless you're a dirty crack dealer...then he probably wants you to have a bad day every once in a while).

― Brent P, Friday, 8 April 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Is this out?? I'm psyched for this one. I wasn't as disappointed with Electric Circus as most folks were. I thought there were some great songs on there actually. But the obvious issue was a few weak beats here and there. I remember Common saying he wanted his next record to have its own sound all the way through it in the way something like Low End Theory did. I'm sure Dilla and Kanye wouldn't let him down. We all love Kanye of course but I've loved almost all the Jay Dee beats I've heard over the years. He's got a great ear for sound and tone and all those shimmering type beats he does are perfect for cats like Common and Kweli. And he and Common already did one hell of a record together..

"Corners" is nothing short of amazing. I just feel a really powerful emotional push in that song.

― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 9 April 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

If that's what you are looking for, you will definitely be satisfied w the album.

― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Saturday, 9 April 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and RE: the "cool font FX from Panic room" ??? from mark:
The video shows monolithic words hanging over the city as if they were concrete signs... this is a direct lift from the recent movie "Panic Room" that opens its credits in the same way. Kanye's listed as the director of the video; no surprise that he might "lift" some of his VISUAL skills from elsewhere as well.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah - "Go" is my favorite song! I didnt even realize it featured john mayer til now!

― Lethal Deez, Saturday, 9 April 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

hehe man I'm so hyped to hear the song w/ Mayer.

tofu OTM about the Panic Room lift - i KNEW i recognized that trick from somewhere

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 9 April 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

I got a copy of this over the weekend! I fucking LOVE IT!

His rhymes, while definitely old dude-ish/friendly-ish in nature, are so much more focused and less awkward in meter and rhythm than ever before. He's also kinda finally started to get as good at narrative as he's thought he was all these years.

The whole album is very summertime-y in feel, sometimes breezy (whatever the first song is called), sometimes sweaty burning fire hot ("Corners").

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Which track is "Go"?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

THis album is really good.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

hmmm this hasn't worn well with me at all. Well, assuming the album = the original leak.

― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

I hope something off the new one sounds like "New Wave" off the last one. That was a hell of a sleeper track.

― ZionTrain, Monday, 25 April 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

http://www.brswebsite.freeserve.co.uk/newsletters/nl03/images/snooze.gif

indeed it was.

― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

"New Wave" is probably my least favorite Common song of all time, besides the appropriat

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

er, besides the appropriation of that old anti-war song for the purposes of Coca-Cola advertisement (a career move that seems more and more bizarre the more you think about it).

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe they pushed it back to May 24th. they're screwing themselves so bad; it's all leaked now, it's only 11 tracks to begin with, and Common doesn't seem like the kind of MC to go back in the lab and do some new songs at the last minute. he was on the radio here last night, played a few songs. sounded alright. "The Corner" has grown on me so much, such a head-nodder.

― Al (sitcom), Monday, 25 April 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

that John Mayer hook on "Go" is really annoying.

― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 22 May 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

Whats annoying about it? It's barely there to be annoying.

― deej., Sunday, 22 May 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

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