the biggest seling album of all time is now officially 'the eagles- their greatest hits' why?

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bigger than 'thriler' according to figures in MOJO.

piscesboy, Thursday, 10 March 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

This or "Hotel California"'s been the biggest seller ever for quite a fuckin while now, I think. At least five years. Why "Thriller"? Not that you actually said you'd prefer that be the biggest ever seller

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 10 March 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

Er, because more people bought it than any other album?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 10 March 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

i always thought thriller was the biggest, and it comes as no small shock 2 find that the eagles sold the most copies of any lp ever, and that it was a compilation made up of about 3 lps worth of stuff that *surely* most people who liked them already had?!! a bit bizarre? no?

piscesboy, Thursday, 10 March 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

"Peaceful easy feeling" is both my mom's and my girlfriend's mom's favorite song. Something about the 70's and Glenn Frey I guess.

theophilus jones (theophilus), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Because of "Hotel California", "Desperado", "One of These Nights", "Take It Easy", "Witchy Woman", "Tequila Sunrise", "Take It To The Limit", "Best Of My Love", "Lyin' Eyes" & 1 other song you can probably sing or hum along to if you've had even the most limited exposure to American Classic Rock &/or EZ Listening Favorites radio, hate it or love it. Thriller isn't #1 probably because Michael Jackson isn't white. (Was Thriller ever #1, though? I'd like to think it was, once.)

The most interesting / galling part about the Eagles GH - Amazon has the list price @ $18.98. Amazon's selling it for $5 less, sure, but no doubt other places (in malls) are happy to push it out @ list. You'd think supply & demand would kick in eventually, after one billion million copies sold.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

"Thriller" and that greatest-hits collection have been swapping the number one and two position for the better part of 10 years now.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Are you guys certain you aren't speaking of the US figures here? The US figures are way too often confused with the worldwide ones, and Eagles have been topping the US sales statistics for years.

Why the heck should people continue buying a compilation album that has long since become obsolete by other compilations also including the groups' later material?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

I cannot offer insight onto this matter since I don't know why people would buy Eagles albums to start with.

1 - You can hear "The Eagles Greatest Hits" anytime you want by turning on your local Clear Channel boomer-pander fm frequency.

2 - They suck anyway.

Austin (Austin), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

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latebloomer: correspondingly more exaggerated mixing is a scarifying error. (lat, Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

The best-SELLING compilations aren't always the *best* ones. Remember that this LP has been available for nearly 30 years. The reason greatest-hits exist is because people are comfortable hearing their favourite songs. And the logical extension is that they also want to hear their favourite COMPILATION, even though newer & better ones may have supplanted it!

I THINK those figures are worldwide sales, not just USA. But if that's the case, then yeah, it IS surprising to find so many non-USA sales. Here in Canada, though, every little retail outlet, if it has ANY Eagles at all, will have Greatest Hits. This thread has more on the issue:

Top 10 CDs You Can Find in Any Shitty Mall Record Store from Now Until The Earth Falls Into The Sun

(Dunno how to create a proper link, sorry)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

(Hmmm, apparently it worked after all! Never mind. Carry on.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Does this mean popists should stop using sales as a validator of quality and/or worthiness? (answer: "Witchy Woman" is a good song and the rest is smarm so I'm hoping yes)

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Joe Walsh was the best thing about The Eagles. If "In the City" isn't on their greatest hits II it should be.

Link, Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

It is sort of strange (especialy for the point that Geir makes), but still sort of explicable, I think:

1. Eagles are an band that is totally inoffensive without ever seeming lite, so they're soft enough to please just about anyone without making them a shameful purchase.

2. Eagles are also a band that many, many people like but very, very few people love, so a greatest hits is often enough for their semi-fans

3. Their hits are more or less evenly spread out across their first half-dozen albums, so no one non-hits purchase will satisfy people skimming tracklistings in the Eagles rack.

But the only reasons I can think of that have to do with why Vol. 1 is the best seller and not any of their other hits albums:

4. It was released only a couple years into the band's career--I might be mistaken about this, but wasn't that fairly out of the ordinary back in the 70s? These days it happens all the time, but it seems like back then bands would have to be around for a good long while before being deemed comp-worthy. Like I said, I could be wrong, that's just the general impression that I got, and it would help explain the initial sales boom.

5. It was released just before Hotel California, arguably the best and most popular of the band's albums, and also probably the one that brought them something of a new audience, being harder-edged than the rest of the band's material. So everyone that got into the band via HC would want a recap on what the band had done thusfar, hence Vol. 1.

6. This might be a bit of a stretch, but once again as to why Vol. 1 instead of something more recent and thorough, it has that instant cover recognition--far more instantly recognizable than any of the other Eagles albums or greatest hits. So once again, while skimming the Eagles rack at the record store, people are most likely to pick out Vol. 1.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

It's been bought by people who don't buy records.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

5. It was released just before Hotel California, arguably the best and most popular of the band's albums, and also probably the one that brought them something of a new audience, being harder-edged than the rest of the band's material. So everyone that got into the band via HC would want a recap on what the band had done thusfar, hence Vol. 1.

Wait a sec - I SWEAR "Hotel California" was on the Greatest Hits. I even checked out Amazon to make sure? Am I blind?

Anyway, if you're going to blow $18 on an Eagles CD, you should get the live reunion disc (the one w/ the deviled ham logo on the front), as it features A) a lot more songs, B) a lot more Joe Walsh, C) a lot more from ESPN anchor Chris Berman's favorite bassist, Timothy B. Schmidt (falsetOOOOOOOOOOO!) and D) NEWish songs, including a righteous wrong-headed slab of dad-rockin' timeshare-swappin' indignance from Mr. Deadhead Sticker, Don Henley.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Thriller isn't #1 probably because Michael Jackson isn't white.

Let's go back around 10 years for our answers here. During the big "Record Club Controversy" of the mid-1990s, it was revealed that in the previous, I dunno, five years let's say, the Eagles sales on their greatest hits had doubled (something like 8 million copies), largely due to the deeply discounted "special introductory offers" the clubs had. So you've got sales from people re-buying an album on CD to account for them.

Around the time of HIStory, despite the fact the previous year and a half of bad news for Michael, there were predictions of strong sales for the album due to the greatest hits portion, because only 6% (or something ridiculously low) of Thriller's sales were on CD. The next ten years negative press coverage have not helped Michael's case as a sales force, whereas the Eagles still go on tour every few years to high ticket prices and probably spike their sales accordingly.

Vic Funk, Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Wait a sec - I SWEAR "Hotel California" was on the Greatest Hits. I even checked out Amazon to make sure? Am I blind?

I guess so. '71-'75 was released in '76, HC was a '77. Check AMG.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Sonofa.

1. Take It Easy
2. Witchy Woman
3. Lyin' Eyes
4. Already Gone
5. Desperado
6. One Of These Nights
7. Tequila Sunrise
8. Take It To The Limit
9. Peaceful, Easy Feeling
10. Best Of My Love

8 of those 10, I could sing the chorus, sorta. (Yeah, yeah, get in line.)

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

8/10 here too.

I'd say at least five of them are good.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Also, Vic's right on re: music clubs - I've seen a fair amount of Greatest Hits discs in the used bin, but they're always wearing that Columbia House reference code in the UPC box like a mark of shame.

You'd think the record company (Sony?) would just make both Greatest Hits CDs mid-level priced (since I THINK they've recouped their investment on the things) (unless the music clubs got to their wallets something fierce), then release a souped-up 2-disc retrospective w/ more stuff on it, & just roll in the dough like Demi Moore.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

I could sing all those choruses. Thank you classic rock radio. "In the City" should be on that bitch instead of "Best of My Love," which just is the shittiest song.

Link, Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

At least Vol. 1 doesn't have "Seven Bridges Road" on it like Vol. 2. Good God, I can't hit the radio fast enough after hearing those first harmonized words (THERRRRRRRRE, ARE STAAAAARRRRRRsss...).

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

"In the City" wouldn't be on Vol.1, since it's from the Joe Walsh years. Why it's not on Vol. 2, I don't know.

I can sing all those choruses too, and I like at least half of them. I think part of appreciating The Eagles is accepting that they're total assholes and all of their songs are from the POV of total assholes -- and as such, they're pretty convincing.

xpost:
And yeah, "Seven Bridges Road" is abominable.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)


also ten years ago or so now they changed the calculations so that columbia house (10 Cds for a penny!) 'purchases' counted. that's when the eagles overtook MJ.

jergins (jergins), Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

We had a recent thread about this:

Top-Selling Record Albums of All Time

As Geir said, the Eagles are only leading in US sales. Worldwide, it's still MJ by a mile.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)


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