did mick mercer have the best taste of any melody maker critic in 1984?

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i don't even know who he is, or any of these other guys for that matter (except david fricke who doesn't really count), but these year-end 1984 melody maker lists i just found in an envelope in my hall closet show that he picked songs by naked raygun, belfefore, cyndi lauper (she bop), stephanie mills (medicine song -- cool title!), jazz butcher, pauline murray (she was in some seminal early punk band right?), plus lots of bands with cool names i never heard of (shark taboo!, 1000 mexicans! dead man's shadow!) among his favorite tracks of the year (they only listed tracks not albums), so i think he wins! on the other hand it is true that frank worrall included one big flame song (and also indians in moscow - who are they??), abd barry mclilheney put the 3 johns' great english white boy on the bottom of an otherwise fairly dull list (which does though include something called hollywood hong kong swing by cruella de ville, which and who i hereby want to hear), and...wait, i was wrong! this lady named carol clerk votes for songs by zz top, hanoi rocks (twice), the sweet, and status quo (plus marillon and big country and something called hup two three four by somebody called the sid presley experience), so i think she wins instead! a couple other pick zz top tracks, but their lists are kinda boring. brian case picks almost all jazz tracks (sonny rollins, wayne shorter, don pulen - good stuff!), but also includes the jazz butcher, which is pretty funny because the jazz butcher weren't actually jazz, right? maybe he just liked their name. mark jenkins must have turned into a techno guy, since he votes for tracks by klaus schulze, philip glass, tangerine dream, hawkwind, terry riley and even the wonderfully named unknowns mainframe and neuronium and agents aren't airplanes (which is true, they're not!), or maybe he just moved to venus or something instead. colin irwin seems kinda cool, i guess - womack & womack, special aka, dick vaughan, plus lots of reggae that is probably good even though i never heard it (smiley culture, papa and levi -- well, the names SOUND reggae anyway.) most of the other guys and gals seem like jangly shambling pop bands i guess. participating critics also include allan jones, adam sweeting, steve sutherland, john barton, andy cowles, tom sheehan, lynden barber, ian pye (who actually come to think of it maybe should win instead -- art of noise, change, stephanie mills's the medicine song AGAIN, bambaataa, ollie and jerry's breakdance hit, bobby womack, womack & womack, joceylyn brown, plus the absolute clincher - hip hop bommi bop by the incredible th scratcher starring freddy love!! ok, he wins for sure but who finishes in second place??), paul strange, helen fitzgerald, richard fenn, tom morton (what a bore HE is), and well that's it i guess. none of whom, again, i know anything about? were any of these guys good writers., even good ROCK CRITICS? i really want to know! i am not british and never have been but there is a whole world out there so i want to be open-minded!

xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link

oops sorry about all those typos, folks; you can sort 'em out if you really want, i'm sure. anyway, in the same envelope from the same closet was the new musical express's 1984 year-end poll; womack & womack (love wars) won best single and bobby womack (poet II) won best album, when all we stodgy americans were still stuck on bruce springsteen (#2 album in nme) and prince (#8). other interesting finishers on the singles list include dennis edwards (?? - don't look any further at #4, was he an r&b guy), james ingram, malcom x (no sell out), world's famous supreme team, the redskins (who sucked, right?), chuck brown, j blackfoot, foetus art terrorism, cabaret voltaire, the pogues, hugh masekela, shock headed peters, three johns, manu dibango, and chakk who i may or may not have ever heard of. interesting album finishers (both charts list the top 50) include the fall, change, the pogues (red roses for me, their oi! record -- see i told you, interesting, huh?), two guys named holger (hiller AND czukay), 3 johns again (atom drum bop, their one great album!), the persuasions, cecil taylor, frankie paul with sugar minnott, and shannon. plus lots of boring shambling proto-britpop troupes, but still...is it at all possible that, at that time in histrory, british crtiics had more interesting taste than american ones? (i don't have the pazz and jop list from that year handy, so i can't say for sure one way or another myself.)

(other year-end lists they list by the way: compilations, videos, reissues, reggae 45s, reggae LPs, US black 45s, US black LPs, african LPs, country LPs, jazz & improvised LPs, and hardcore LPs. the latter list includes albums by husker du, swans, ramones, scraping foetus off the wheel, black flag {twice}, meat puppets, non {who i never heard of}, minutemen, and the butthole surfers, most of whom i never knew anybody ever considered hardcore in the first place)

xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that possibly Non as in Boyd Rice? (You must have heard of Non and forgotten.)

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 13 March 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link

er...maybe! who were they? what did they sound like? were they any good??

xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Boyd Rice is one of those RE/Search Industrial Handbook people (idiot who is known for posing with a leader of the neo-nazi type political organization the American Front). I've never seen him referred to as hardcore.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 13 March 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Dennis Edwards = post-Ruffin Temptation. He's on "Papa Was a Rollin' Stone," "Shakey Ground," etc.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah and that song Chuck mentioned "Don't Look Any Further" had its bassline nicked for Eric B. & Rakim's "Paid in Full".

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Mick started out with a fanzine called Panache, then went on to edit the eighties run of ZigZag magazine. An essential read in those days: Ran from mainstream pop to hardcore to world music to industrial, with side articles on things like fetishism and politics. Tom Vague was a frequent contributor.

He seems to be primarily known as a writer on Goth culture now, and ZigZag probably did as much as any mainstream pub. to cover and help define that, but there's always been a lot more to him than that.

His website seems to have just about everything he's ever written available for download.

Soukesian, Monday, 14 March 2005 08:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Mick Mercer's LiveJournal
http://www.livejournal.com/users/mickmercer/

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 14 March 2005 08:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Well I sure as hell would love to be looking at that MM right over your shoulder, xhuxk. The end of 1984 was when I discovered college radio and a whole new world opened up in my life big time. Not sure when I first started buying the British weeklies but would have been soon after...I do recall there being a lot in print about Womack this and Womack that. But I never heard any Womacks to this day! It's fun to read through all the artists names you mention - even a fair number of the writers names are familiar to me, without being able to remember any distinguishing characteristics of any of them.

Hey don't stop now - open up the live section, the reviews, more band names please!

I used to have a ZigZag with depeche mode on the cover.

I checked out Mercer's site once...it was pretty cool, but unfortunately there's only a certain number of truly worthy Goth bands in the world, and then it gets...sad, really.

whoops - xpost! Hi DJ Martian.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 14 March 2005 08:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Also Sid Presley Experience - didn't they go on to be the Godfathers?

Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 14 March 2005 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link

ha, i didn't keep the whole issue, sad to say, bimble -- just those best-of-the-year pages. (and i can't believe that i blanked out on who dennis edwards was; for some reason i still get him mixed up in my head with bernard edwards, chic's bassist, who i swear put out a halfway decent solo album sometime around then. also, the 3 johns song, i think, was "english white boy ENGINEER", wasn't it? melody maker must have listed it wrong..)

anyway, isn't ian pye sort of a biggish name in brit rock-crit circles? i swear i've heard of him elsewhere; just not sure where...

xhuxk, Monday, 14 March 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Ian Pye was reasonably big name in the 80s. I remember a few things he wrote, a fairly early Morrissey interview for Melody Maker, for instance. Or was that Ian Penman? It's possible you're thinking of Ian Penman. I always used to get them confused in my head, anyway. Even though Penman was the NME. (Wasn't he?)

David A. (Davant), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link


David A. (Davant), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry, almost complete incoherence and then woeful html skills just to compound the overall impression of my sheer incompetence today. Here's that Morrissey interview.

David A. (Davant), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

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cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 01:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Unless this is a different Mark Jenkins, the one I'm thinking of writes for the Washington Post and isn't really a "techno guy." His specialty seems to be Fugazi / Dischord, which I want to say he wrote a book on. He does review techno albums from time to time and has a terrible habit of always calling the music "art-disco."

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link

ian pye was editor of nme from 1984-87

he also produced that pretty good "walk on by" TV series on pop abt five years ago

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

unlike americans, british critics in 1984 were not cool enough to like john waite:

http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/pnj/pjres84.php

xhuxk, Friday, 18 March 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link


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