downloading mix cds

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is there anyway of illiminating the gaps between tracks of downloaded mix cds when burning them to cd-r?

in sharky water, Monday, 14 March 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

i know i shouldn't complain because they're free, but it's really annoying.

scg, Monday, 14 March 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

scg first Insides and now Disco Inferno???

Apparantly you can use a program to patch all the soundfiles into one big soundfile but I've never done it and have completely forgotten all the details.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

CDex is good for combining tracks into one file

Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

This has become a major annoyance for me as well (and it also happens when I rip things I pay for).

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

NB. if you've got a fast connection a lot of divided mix-cds seem to end up floating round the interweb as single files, might be easier to download it again that way.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

If you're using Nero, make sure you select "0" for all the track gaps except the first one which should be "2". When you hit "Burn", make sure you UNSELECT the option to skip out gaps on the tracks as this actually sticks a minute gap in. Misleading I know.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Convert them all to Wav files, then use a prog to eliminate the blanks at the end/begin of the files. Only way to avoid the microscopic gap. (afaik)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Does it seem crazy to anyone else that in 2005 we to have to sit down with a .wav editor to hear a mix CD properly? "If we can put a man on the moon" etc.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

And when was the last time a man was on the moon? The seventies. When you could eliminate gaps on a cassette recorder.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

as i said above, CDex will rip a CD's tracks and merge them into one without gaps. also converts compressed back to wav and vice versa well and lets you convert to mp3 at broad range of bitrates

Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

most burning programs have an option to eliminate the gap in their preference list . . . it can be hard to find in some (EasyCDCreator, I seem to remember, has it buried four or five clicks into options).

But with iTunes, it's only two (preferences > burning > gap between songs = none).

brilliant young and angsty (thatguy), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Most of these gap elimination strategies aren't exact. The only way to really remove it (from .mp3s) is to do what Mark Grout said (convert to .wav and edit them). I often do what Tim said, which is to look for the 90 MB single file. They often come with a .cue sheet in the same folder which will allow you to burn a CD with proper tracks.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

you should all be using EAC/LAME to rip/encode

among other niceties, it allows you to rip the disc with a cuesheet - giving you one big sound file (wav or mp3, your choice) and a cue sheet that marks the track indexes without breaking up the file. When you burn, you just use the cue sheet and it loads up the correct markers to let you skip forward and back on the disc. progs like foobar support cue sheets, so that when you load the .cue into foobar, it shows you 10 tracks or whatever, even though the file you are playing from is one big track.
and nero supports cue files for burning, as do most all cd burning software apps now.

rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

so in the end, my advice is that if you see a mixed disc broken up into individual tracks, move on and find another copy of it where it's a single .mp3 and a .cue sheet

rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

(but i just realized spencer already said that part)

rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

rentboy OTM. I second using LAME.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

You said it better.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

on iTunes it's really easy to join tracks. when I rip a mix disc I do it track-by-track *and* all-as-one, just because.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

the encoder in itunes doesn't sound as good as LAME afaict
but i may be biased
anyhow, LAME and EAC are free downloads here:

www.exactaudiocopy.de/
lame.sourceforge.net/

rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Didn't realize we were talking about CD burning, I realize how that works. My problem is listening to ripped mixes on my iPod. I will look into this LAME thing -- it says it's distributed only as raw code so I guess I'll need to bone up on how to get it into a form I can use.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

there is a .exe out there, and you can plug it into lots of front ends, i prefer EAC, but CDex and Bladepro can both use it too. i'll try to find the link to the .exe for you, if you'd like...

rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

"My problem is listening to ripped mixes on my iPod."

The Rio Karma is the only portable that can play files gaplessly. The Karma plays ogg, mp3*, and flac files.

(* only LAME mp3s are gapless)

todd (todd), Monday, 14 March 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Life is random so what the fuck.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 March 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

my ipod plays mixes "gapless" just fine, as i don't do anything stupid like rip them to individual tracks

:p

rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 14 March 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Here's the deal, if you take a CD that has no gaps between songs and then rip it as individual .mp3s, there are gaps between the tracks no matter what (I'm not sure about .aac). There are "gapless" plug-ins available for players, but they are merely doing a software approximation of eliminating the gaps. If you really want to take individual .mp3s that you've downloaded and make it one continuous track again, you have to go the .wav route (even then, it won't be absolutely perfect).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 March 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)


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