Music That You'd Wanted To Hear For Ages And Then You Finally Did Hear It Sucked NO!

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In respondnse to "Music That You'd Wanted To Hear For Ages And Then You Finally Did Hear And It Was Just As Good As You Thought It Was Going To Be YEAH" here we have "Music That You'd Wanted To Hear For Ages And Then You Finally Did Hear It Sucked NO!" For me, Iced Earth's "something wicked this way comes" was nowhere near my expectations.

lochrian x, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Zappa and the Roches.

helenfordsdale, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Forever Changes.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I agree, there's something about Iced Earth that seems...um, 'timid', for want of a better word. You can tell there's something in them they really want to get out, but they're worried about fanbase demands. For me, big disappointment = Daft Punk, Raspberries (only one "Go All the Way" unfortunately).

Also, TG and Whitehouse possibly excepted, 'industrial' music was a massive disappointment. I was looking forward to apocalyptic, soul-crushing aural rape by psychotic sadists, not sulky, vaguely annoying I've-got-a-bad-cold whining.

dave q, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'Pet Sounds', most of Captain Beefheart, 'Highway 61 Revisited', AR Kane.

Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

After spending a huge amount of time over the last 6 months trying to like them I have to say - Scritti Politti's first 3 singles. (Sorry Phil T, Maura, Jess, Simon R, Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and all)

Tom, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

sadly, a bridget st john mp3. didn't strike me very much, disappointed.

gareth, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Souled American. Didn't suck, but I was not at all interested.

Dave225, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Gram Parsons

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Frank Sinatra's Songs For Swinging Lovers

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Pale Fountains.

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Gram Parsons - most definitely yes.

Pale Fountains? You're mental ND ;)

Dr. C, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The way Gram Parsons is talked about is wrong in the same way the way alt country as a whole is talked about is. They're both marketed as some kind of rock and roll crazy trendy hipster things when actually they're just country music. The only reason the alt is there is because of Garth and Shania etc.

Ronan, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm not saying disliking him is wrong. Just that friends of mine have listened to him on the basis of all those dumb reviews of REM or the fuckin Verve or something that mention him and then hated the music.

Ronan, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

actually they're just country music.

But I like country music. Although, I suppose on the whole I prefer female singers. Anyway, he was a bit 'hippy' country even at the time, wasn't he? Not exactly establishment. I guess that's why he's seen as the godfather of alt-country.

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah and he's probably more canonical than Hank Williams or someone far better like that. I'm not sure if I'd be correct to say that country music in general isn't at all canonical and so lots of people end up disappointed with the few country artists that have their foot in the door.

On a side note it's equally annoying how people like Johnny Cash cos he's an icon

Ronan, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can, Neu! and all that other kinda stuff.

Also, I was really interested to hear what "In The Beginning There was Rhythm" was like, but in the end I got 30 seconds into each song before skipping to the next one.

Andrew Williams, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Exile On Main Street."

Douglas, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What's Going On, Mos Def, Olivia Tremor Control, Black Flag, Ryan fucking Adams.

Probably many other more suppressed memories, too.

scott p., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

can sounded like status quo. cluster sounded like a bad jean michel jarre record. faust sounded like shit.

bob snoom, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Douglas, I was disappointed by Exilefor ages, too. 'Where are like, the standout songs?' I thought. Then I listened to it with friends when driving and it all made sense. It's just got a great good time rock feel to it. Mainly, I'm afraid to rock, but this is great. If you want carefully crafted songs then yeah, you're better off with mid to late 60s stuff.

I just don't understand the What's Going On hatas on this board, and there are plenty of them.

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just don't understand the What's Going On hatas on this board, and there are plenty of them.

yo, heres another one. i like t plays it cool though

gareth, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ND sez: 'I just don't understand the What's Going On hatas on this board'

When the NME voted this the 'greatest album ever made' back in '85, someone wrote in pointing out it was "hippy whining". Could be there's your answer. (Me? I've only heard 3 tracks from the LP. But that description is prolly fair re 2 of 'em.)

Jeff W, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think the main problem with What's Going On for me is that it's so ponderous and dull. It feels like required listening and it never made any sort of impact on me. And I really, really tried, too.

scott p., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't hear it as hippy whining. I hear it as extraspective troubled melancholia, which is a frame of mind I'm very susceptible to. And holy Jesus, the gorgeous sweep of its segues. Never mind.

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can (if their best-of is this boring, I'd hate to hear the worst), Zappa ("Weasels Ripped My Flesh" is rated highly, but I hated it. I know he's got a lot of different styles in his huge body of work, but none of it interests me. Plus his persona is repellent). "Forever Changes" (It's catchy enough, and has some ok songs, but this twee classic makes me cringe. Did somone say this guy was a Hendrix wanna-be? Funny, I thought Hendrix was a guitarist.) And I really hesitate to say this, but while I do respect him and like many of his songs, I do think Gram Parsons is way, way overrated. I really want to love him, and he's good and all, but he's no timeless legend.

Sean, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I agree with everything Sean wrote, except I always suspected I disliked Frank Zappa. As it turned out, I was right.

Nick: which tracks do like on the M. Gaye album? I still have it, suspecting that someday it may hit me.

scott p., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Scott, I like the whole thing. I suppose when he's crying out 'Save the babies!' it can evoke a smirk, but that's the worst of it. Favourite moment: when the guitar riff of 'Mercy Mercy Me' slowly floats in.

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Cybotron "Clear"

Curt, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

so helpful

, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

for me it was stuff like amon duul, guru guru, and some of the other more proggy krautrock bands who were really not nearly as good or even very similar to Neu, Harmonia, Can, Cluster, Faust, etc.

g, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Re g's post - so true. I read some interview somewhere (sounds promising doesn't it? 'I read some interview somewhere'. Wow, such expertise. Anyway...) where a friend of Michael Rother's complains about every single band with somebody called 'Klaus' or 'Hans' is labelled 'Krautrock' as a marketing ploy. I saw a 'Krautrock' comp the other day that had Accept on it! However, I still bought it, and it's terrible.

dave q, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Van Dyke Parks. Whitehouse. Dead Can Dance.

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually there is one passable psychedelic non-Krautrock kraut band, Brainticket. They don't sound like Harmonia or Cluster, but they're OK.

dave q, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh yeah, Van Dyke Parks. I thought he was supposed to be the 'smart one' on 'Smile'!

dave q, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Townes Van Zandt (didn't suck, but I didn't really care), Fred Neil (ditto), the Joy of Cooking, Slint, Girls vs. Boys, Mahavishnu Orchestra, .

Arthur, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

SFA: from all the things I had heard about them youd think they were gods. Outside of the title track, Rings Around The World bores me.

Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Rings Around The World is SFA's worst record by a long shot. Not a good place to start. That said, I agree that they're very over- rated.

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Rings Around The World is SFA's worst record by a long shot.

*blink* SFA have released a bad record? Since when? ;-)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll second 'What's Going On,' b/c it has four good songs and a lot of drippy drivelly crap. Cluster I was amazed by on first listen; same goes for Neu!.

I always thought the Ramones were going to be better than they sounded the first time I actually listened to one of their records.

Clarke B., Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Exile On Main Street."

nooooo. why did it suck for you? the stones finally clicked for me afew years back after i heard that record. o wait, that was beggers banquet. exile is still good though.

Brock K, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll second Townes Van Zandt and Van Dyke Parks, mentioned above by dave and Arthur.

What's up with all the over-rated Vans? Van Morrison, Eddie Van Bertinelli...

fritz, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, I was disappointed by Sammy Johns' "Chevy Van" which wasn't as good as the movie

dave q, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was excited to hear the Incredible String Band after seeing them namechecked so many times, but I was apalled when I finally picked up Hangman's Beautiful Daughter. That was a one-play-and-in-the- sell-stack record.

I was disapointed with the first Neu! record when I finally heard it. I downloaded "Hallogallo" from Napster and was blown away, but the more abstract tracks without that groove I find dull. I still haven't listened to it a ton, though, so maybe that will change.

Mark, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the Incredible String Band

I've still not heard them, despite my undying Gorky's love, for fear of the same reaction.

scott p., Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was excited to hear the Incredible String Band after seeing them namechecked so many times, but I was apalled when I finally picked up Hangman's Beautiful Daughter. That was a one-play-and-in-the- sell- stack record.

Strangely enough, this is almost word-for-word what Courtney Love said about this album recently in the NME.

Nicole, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

CONSPIRACY.

I don't have that album, but I have the first self-titled and that one album with the 'layers of the onion' phrase in the title. And they're both actually pretty good, though I don't listen to them that often.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Erotic City" by Prince. Best B-Side ever etc etc etc - finally heard it and it sounded like, well, a Prince B-Side, i.e. OK. Not erotic either.

Tom, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tom has broken his erotica synapses.

Anyway, my vote for this would be Rage Against The Machine. I LOOOOOOVED "Killing (In The Name Of)" and just KNEW I was going to love them. Imagine my shock and disgust when I grabbed their debut album used and discovered that it was useless and horrid.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I LOOOOOOVED "Killing (In The Name Of)" and just KNEW I was going to love them. Imagine my shock and disgust when I grabbed their debut album used and discovered that it was useless and horrid.

I'd committed one murder and it felt FANTAAAAASTIC! Imagine my shock and disgust when I discovered that serial killing was really nasty and evil.

Tom, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Also, TG and Whitehouse possibly excepted, 'industrial' music was a massive disappointment. I was looking forward to apocalyptic, soul- crushing aural rape by psychotic sadists, not sulky, vaguely annoying I've-got-a-bad-cold whining."

what did you hear, dave q? You should download some Winterkälte - "Global Deforestation" ... or some other bands on the ant-zen label like Hypnoskull or P.A.L. ... likewise, some Rosemary Malign & the Eugenics Council (though they're similar to Whitehouse) ... for some atmospheric, Lustmord-like non-dance industrial try Ah Cama-Sotz (songs "Scalae Cryptae" and "Black Mist") ... Dryft is more 'twisted beatz' but they have some overlap with the harsh industrial aesthetic ..

but yeah, it sounds like you don't like the more pop, dancefloor- oriented stylings of Front 242, Front Line Assembly, Skinny Puppy, Funker Vogt, etc.

Dare, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd committed one murder and it felt FANTAAAAASTIC! Imagine my shock and disgust when I discovered that serial killing was really nasty and evil.

Zing! In my defense, I should point out that this all took place 7 years ago, when they only had the one album out and only had the one song receiving airplay. (At least, that's how it was in Boston.)

At any rate, it's good to see your aggro synapses are firing like gangbusters. ;)

Dan Perry, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Basically every proto-punk band I've heard except the Stooges falls into this category for me -- Velvets, MC5, Patti, Television, Dolls all seemed pretty spotty by the time I finally got around to hearing them. Maybe three good songs between the bunch.

Ian, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

flamin groovies: shake some action.

quoted by andy cox as the tune that got 'the beat' together, i looked in every charity shop and record fair for nearly 20 years for it. i found a copy last year. its shit.

dbini, Sunday, 20 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Shake Some Action = shit??

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Dr. C, Sunday, 20 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's strange: I can't think of any examples of this in my listening. Starting in about 1978 (and dropping off a bit around 1984, then more in 1987, and then more in 1991) I went through a period of listening to college radio station WXPN (see the about myself thread, or whatever it's called); at this point lots of stuff I had never heard of, or suspected existed, was suddenly thrown at me (including a Krautrock, early industrial, musique concrete, gamelan, dub). To some extent I started reading music magazines more (mostly Option and Wire) as a replacement for what I was no longer finding out about on the radio, but I can't think of anything I heard of this way that I wanted to hear for a long time and was finally disappointed with. There have been numerous minor disappointments (e.g., MBV (seen live), Portishead and Tricky on CD), but by this point I expect to be disappointed by things that have been hyped, so that I'm not really disappointed anymore.

DeRayMi, Sunday, 20 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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