It's like, I'm not even a big Beatles fan or anything. But Jesus H. Christ, HAS THIS ASSHOLE NO SHAME? Why doesn't someone just go up to him and say, "You're so FUCKING LAME! You're a UNTALENTED DICKHEAD WHO GOT LUCKY because of KURT COBAIN! No-one CARES what you DO, THINK, OR SING! Just go away, you STUPID FUCK." Why the fuck do folks like George Harrison, Joey Ramone, Biggie, Zappa, Cobain, and John Lennon all have to die, but COCKROACHES like Beddie Wedder have to keep living and stinking up the airwaves?!?!
Phew ... I sound like dave q. on his "Three Eye Blind/Sugar Ray" thread now!
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Or maybe I need some sleep. And to stop listening to FM radio altogether!
― dave q, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Andrew L, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dave225, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mickey Black Eyes, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sean, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Andy, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― stevie, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Pump Wellington, Saturday, 19 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I will start by addressing you're comment about dead artists. It is traggic that all of these artists are dead. Each of them were very unique and changed the face of music forever (except maybe Zappa and Biggie). And oh yeah, you forgot a few, Jimi Hendrix, Jerry Garcia, Jim Morrison (BIGGIE WHO). However, you really need to let your frustration with Vedder go. He, like it or not, is one of the most influential vocalists of the past 20 years and not just because the band he plays in has sold millions of records. He (and the band) along with numerous other groups/artists have spent many hours and $$$$ trying to do nothing more then help others. Who are you to sit up high on your bean bag and critisize him or cheapen what he and many others have done. When was the last time you gave freely of yourself and your money to help others? Have you ever? Or better yet, have you ever had to humble yourself by accepting a helping hand? Have you ever known what it is like to depend on the generousity of others to get along? If you have, did you criticize the person behind that hand. If so your so fucking lost you might as well stop reading.
I suppose EV just does it for the publicity right? Just because he wants to stand up and say "hey look at what a great fucking guy I am. Look at what a pretty voice I have and look at what I stand for, I'm just fucking great". Well, if you think that you are a even more of a fuck then I thought and you haven't even been paying attention. I'm probably just wasting my time responding to you (because you obviously have a serious case of rectal-cranium inversion and no idea what you're talking about). To my knowledge PJ does more on less press then any band going (and has for over 10 years). All their shows are sold out, all of their tickets are affordable, all of their fans (at least at the shows I've been to) and good people who care about each other and the music. Hell, I even think I read somewhere that Bono compared them to the Dead (whata fucking complement). And they have done all of this, like the Dead, without playing themselves out on MTV or radio. BTW, seen Fred Durst lately?
See, this is what you don't understand. It's not about what others think, it's about what feels right to yourself and the band. By all means, if you don't like it, don't listen, that is your God given right. I am American, so I think it's great that you have your opinion and can call them cocksucking posers who (gulp) got lucky because Kurt Cobain was conceived. But now you have to be a man and hear my opinion (or not). Now don't get me wrong, I thought Cobain was great. He was in a very popular and talented BAND that is still influencing others. However, I also think Cobain was a bit of a whinner, an addict, and ultimately a quiter who couldn't think of anything else other then applying a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Is this your hero? Is this your answer? Do we want to listen to his words? Do we really care what he did or thought? Sadly, the answer is yes. Nevertheless, when my children ask me about Kurt I will tell them he was very talented but he was also very human. He couldn't think of others because he didn't feel comfortable in his own skin (and this is the key to life man). But, like PJ, he loved music and if it had only been the music he still might be with us today. But, unlike any other great artist that died too soon, he decided to off himself. So in my opinion, he was selfish and weak, but he did it on his terms so I guess he had balls. I just wish he would have used his brain instead of his balls.
So the next time you go bashing Eddie or anyone else that has the intelligence to recognize that they are unique (and talented whether you like it or not) and tries to use that uniqueness to SELFLESSLY help others just remember this. The flame is very hot and most burn out before they are done. However, EV and PJ have remained consistent and unwavering in their convictions and beliefs. To me and many others this is the true sign of talent and character. If you compromise yourself, what else do you have.
DE
― Daren Everly, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
See, here's your problem -- I think Tad won't care about anything else you say given this assertion! ;-)
But now you have to be a man
Would it have mattered if Tad was a woman? Actually, *is* Tad a woman? Does DE know something we don't? Or does he think remarks like that don't carry their implied baggage? I think I have my answer. ;-)
when my children ask me about Kurt I will tell them he was very talented but he was also very human.
Implying you think Eddie is talented but...inhuman! Eight foot tall lizard people! Acid for blood! RUN!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"And the award for 'Most Inappropriate Use Of The Word "BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-OTCH!"' goes to... DAN PERRY!" *applause*
This is how you remind of how bad bands can suck.
― Nicole, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Raymond Robinson, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ally C, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― DG, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Doubtless.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― chaki, Wednesday, 20 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave q, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― nathalie, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martín Morales Díaz, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Terry Meissel, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)
you don't like their music? DON'T LISTEN TO IT! you don't like the band or Eddie? KEEP IT TO YOURSELF UNLESS YOU CAN ACTUALLY SUPPLY MATURE AND RATIONAL ARGUMENTS!
― trimurti, Wednesday, 7 April 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― ono, Friday, 16 April 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― schmitty, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)
www.kameradoktorn.cjb.net
― don tomaso, Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Thursday, 22 April 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― B......Williams, Saturday, 24 April 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Sunday, 25 April 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 25 April 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Pearl Jam are unfortunately lumped in with that whole "Stone Temple Pilots pseudo-grunge" movement which has more to do with their geography (YEA I KNOW STP WERE FROM CALI FUCK YOU) than anything.
Riot Act was one of their better albums, and they've done more than enough to satisfy me.
Eddie Vedder rules, hands down. He can put people off now and then, but ultimately, he's not afraid to speak his mind.
― uh, Sunday, 25 April 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)
In other words, it's stupid.
― uh, Sunday, 25 April 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)
Of course, however, he must have supported Nader for his 'own needs', because any member of a band who has sold more than 20,000 copies of an album in their career can't possibly have political convictions.
You fucking idiot.
― uh, Sunday, 25 April 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― haha, Sunday, 25 April 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 25 April 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)
has anyone heard the new album Earthling yet? i have only heard the song with Elton John and was wondering ILM thoughts on the new one.
btw, only thread i could find on him and afraid to actually read this old thread.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 03:45 (four years ago)
Whoa - don’t scroll up
― Not Dork Yet (alternate toke) (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 04:47 (four years ago)
Earthling album is great, i enjoyed it & already plan to relisten to it a few more times to really dig inbut it def showcases his aging chill guy vibe, his voice is rougher these days & they kinda play with that its good, get into it
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 05:41 (four years ago)
Lol what a trainwreck of a thread.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 05:53 (four years ago)
It's good!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:27 (four years ago)
“Off he goes” is better than any Lennon song and it‘s certainly better than “hide your love away”
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 13:35 (four years ago)
^ This isn’t nearly the most controversial thing written on this thread.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 13:36 (four years ago)
KEEP IT TO YOURSELF UNLESS YOU CAN ACTUALLY SUPPLY MATURE AND RATIONAL ARGUMENTS!
This is good advice in general.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 18:13 (four years ago)
I heard the first half of it over the weekend and was surprised by how much I like it. I'm just glad it wasn't another ukulele album. I mean, you've clearly got to have some tolerance for Vedder going into it, but I'm excited to check out the full album.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 18:16 (four years ago)
Randomly got free tickets to see him in LA on Friday. Incredible show - Stewart Copeland even came out to jam at the end! (My favorite drummer)
And I love the album. Listened to it before going to the show
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/eddie-vedder/2022/youtube-theater-inglewood-ca-5b884bbc.html
― DT, Sunday, 27 February 2022 09:13 (four years ago)
Love the enthusiasm here, love the covers he's been playing, hate that I just had no interest in seeing or hearing this particular array of musicians. On the other hand, I still haven't listened to the album and am super thankful he dropped the uke shit. I did see him on his last solo tour and I just couldn't take it.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 February 2022 14:11 (four years ago)