The final straw: albums that put a bullet in your love for an artist.

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This thread was spawned by putting my CDs in alphabetical order over the last few days, and finding:

Filth Pig - Ministry

What a pile of shit. Yeesh.

Next?

― John Justen (johnjusten), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Human After All

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Dignity And Shame

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I know many people love Stars' latest, Set Yourself On Fire, but for me it is the culmination of the band's move in a predictable and boring indie rock direction, when I much prefer the bedroom-synthpop-emo-noddlings of their first effort, Nightsongs. So, while not a bullet, the album makes me much less in interested in a band whose first disc was for me a very beloved object.

― brittle-lemon, Monday, 28 March 2005 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Blasphemy!

― Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

For me, "Miss Machine".

― Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

have to agree with brittle's post, so much that i am thinking that that stars 'set yourself on fire' album of the year topic was a put-on.

― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i Spiritually Minded

What happened KRS? You were supposed to never fall off!

― Austin Swinburn (Austin, Still), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"Filth Pig" was exactly what I thought when I saw the title of the thread, before I read the first post!

― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

tori: to venus and back was pushing it, but scarlet's walk killed it for me altogether.

― tehresa (tehresa), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:40 (twenty-one years ago)

To the 5 Boroughs.

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah Nate, that too.

― Austin S (Austin, Still), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:47 (twenty-one years ago)

keith, "SYAF" WAS my album of the year!

― Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

er, "SYOF" I mean. "Set Yourself a Fire" doesn't have quite the same menace, does it?

― Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought someone would say human after all but the first post? That's it for Daft Punk and you donut? Its only one album.

For me Lost and safe could be it for the Books if they can't recover from whatever they were doing there but I wouldn't say it's a bullet. Just a less-lethal bean bag or something.

― jmeister (jmeister), Monday, 28 March 2005 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Cupid & Psyche 85

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 28 March 2005 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Metallica
Ice Cube, Lethal Injection
Hüsker Dü, Candy Apple Grey

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 28 March 2005 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Prodigy - Fat of the Land (I mean, were you even expecting that fucking new album to be any good?)
To the 5 Boroughs
26 Mixes For Cash (old material I know. But for me it showed RDJ up as not quite the musical genius he'd led me to believe)
Yield (even though I liked it but couldn't bring myself to get Binaural)

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 28 March 2005 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"Tim" The Replacements
"Daydream Nation" Sonic Youth
"69 Love Songs" Magnetic Fields

― dlp9001, Monday, 28 March 2005 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Odelay
The Secret Migration

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 28 March 2005 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"Tim" The Replacements
"Daydream Nation" Sonic Youth
"69 Love Songs" Magnetic Fields
Odelay

Those put you off??!!
They're all among the greatest albums ever made ya crazy fules! ;)

These put me off...

REM - Reveal (and if that was the bullet, Around the Sun drove the stake into the heart)
Beastie Boys - To the 5 Boroughs, although their anti-war song was embarrassing. And I was anti-war.

― stew, Monday, 28 March 2005 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I'd second "Daydream Nation". Indulgent bland college-rock.

― Soukesian, Monday, 28 March 2005 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i will agree with 'Miss Machine' and 'Reveal' so far, and add 'Southpaw Grammar' which i tried really hard to like, but in the end i couldn't escape the fact that it wasn't fit to wipe my ass on much less listen to, and i have refused to buy anything by the man since.

― Lee F# (fsharp), Monday, 28 March 2005 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Southpaw Grammar has Dagenham Dave on it, yeah? Oh dear, that is crap.
And while You Are The Quarry might be an improvement on it, it's still rub.

― stew, Monday, 28 March 2005 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

figure eight LP
ween's white pepper Lp
AC/DC for those about to rock LP
run dmc my adidas LP
beasties Ill communication LP
van halen diver down LP

to name a few....

― Miguelito, Monday, 28 March 2005 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

REM - Reveal (and if that was the bullet, Around the Sun drove the stake into the heart)

OTM. Same here.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 28 March 2005 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

THINK TANK

that album was the death of everything for me.

― lundy fastnet irish sea (cis), Monday, 28 March 2005 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Really, I can't think of a single album that could top Filth Pig in these stakes. Yeesh.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Stereolab dots & loops

― hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

This is easy...Ancient Melodies of the Future, Built To Spill. I can't think of another instance where a band I loved so much put out a record I hated so much. They have a new one coming out soon, hopefully it'll return to the heights of Perfect From Now On/Keep It Like A Secret, but until then, Ancient Melodies is the bullet.

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

It didn't put me off them forever, but my ardor for Sleater-Kinney cooled considerably after "The Hot Rock."

― Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I would say Blur did so, first partly with "Blur" and then definitely with "13".

There are also others that have made efforts. However, I have been able to forgive Depeche Mode for "Songs Of Faith And Devotion" and Human League for "Crash", as both followed them with considerably better efforts.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Hooverphonic - The Magnificent Tree and Sneaker Pimps - Bloodsport unconsciously stopped me from buying their albums and singles.

― What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Monday, 28 March 2005 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Let it All Come Down

― Trip Maker (Sean Witzman), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree with brittle-lemon.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Bands/Artists You Gave Up on...and what album was your point of departure?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha the other thread reminds me that Angels With Dirty Faces also owns this thread! Also, Population 4 by Cranes.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex Chilton's "Loose Shoes and Tight Pussy" is the one that finally did it for me, for him...his version of my favorite Gary Stewart song, "Single Again," is quite possibly the worst thing I've ever heard by someone who ought to know better...I only keep the thing because of its title, you know. And I paid too much for it, as a French import...silly.

the Stereolab album after "Dots and Loops" did it for them, I can't even remember the name of it.

Nick Lowe's "Dig My Mood" kinda did it for me and Nick.

― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

he Stereolab album after "Dots and Loops" did it for them, I can't even remember the name of it.

it was brown and orange.

― hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"Cobra and Phases Group Play Voltage in the Milky Night"

The stunning mediocrity of that record detracts from the fact that their largely unheard last two records are really quite good.

― Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

stew OTM regarding "Reveal." I'll add "Feelings" by David Byrne.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 March 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Those last three albums are when I really started liking R.E.M. "Automatic For The People" may have had better songs, and is overall their best album, but the three last albums are all classic because they combine great songs with more sophisticated production.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 28 March 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Thought R.E.M. would figure here, but y'all seem so forgiving/patient. It felt like the thrill was gone by Monster at the latest (with subsequent sporadic fits of goodness -- eg. 1 good single from most LPs -- being cunning deceptions).

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Monday, 28 March 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"Those last three albums are when I really started liking R.E.M. "Automatic For The People" may have had better songs, and is overall their best album, but the three last albums are all classic because they combine great songs with more sophisticated production."

More sophisticated production maybe, and that's the problem. Reveal has some okay songs and one great song that is smothered by sub-sub-sub-Pet-Sounds-if-it-was-produced-by-Jeff-Lynne-gloop. By that great song I mean Beat A Drum, a finer Wilson tribute than Up's At My Most Beautiful. Listen to the "demo" version (which still sounds incredibly clear and hi-fi) that came as a b-side and on the In Time extra disc. Just piano, guitar and voice. It's beautiful. The album version smothers the melody, filling in the vital open spaces where Stipe's voice floats over fading piano chords. All the emotion is lost. It's one of the most brutal treatments of a fine song I've ever heard. It's tragic. Around The Sun has no such redeeming features. Leaving New York is pleasant enough, but it's an REM ballad by numbers. A real shame, cos with their psych-pop reworking of one of their earliest songs on the Vanilla Sky OST (All The Right Friends) I thought they still had a few tricks up their sleeves. A worrying thing is that they seem to be taking Bono's advice to still try and compete. Fuck that, let Peter Buck indulge his love of Albert Ayler and get Ralph Carney in to blurt all over his garage rock guitar and Mills' piano. How bored does Buck look jangling through whatever bland shit Stipe tells him to play. Fuck that shit, grow old disgracefully!!!

― stew, Monday, 28 March 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Chaos and Disorder". Prince hasn't REALLY recovered since.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 March 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Guns made me abandon the Cardiacs (though the rot had set in circa God I and II)

Interpretter scared me off of Julian Cope, quite sadly.

Modern was the last "new" album by the Buzzcocks I decided I'd ever need to purchase.

Stomp 442 convinced me that I had all I needed by Anthrax, thank you very much anyway.

Load convinced me that Metallica were done bringing anything interesting to the table.

Bloodflowers handily informed me that the Cure weren't all they used to be.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 March 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha the other thread reminds me that Angels With Dirty Faces also owns this thread!

Tricky, I assume, not the Sugababes!

for Tori: The Beekeeper has just been the final, definite nail in the coffin but Scarlet's Walk had pretty much hammered in all the other nails already. To Venus And Back is sometimes my favourite Tori Amos album, I don't understand the hate it gets from Tori fans.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 28 March 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Reveal has some okay songs and one great song that is smothered by sub-sub-sub-Pet-Sounds-if-it-was-produced-by-Jeff-Lynne-gloop

Well, even though they have been great lately, R.E.M. will never ever come close to the geniuses of Jeff Lynne and Brian Wilson. Two of the biggest musical geniuses ever. So there!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Prince lost me around the time of the "Symbol" album. I forgave him the awful "Batman" album because "Grafitti Bridge" was great, but "Symbol" was the end anyway.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

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El Oso

― sneekycheeks (nader), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The problem with hating To Bring You My Love is the fact that the song "To Bring You My Love" is on it, seeing as that is far and away the best song PJ Harvey has ever recorded outside of "Can Hardly Wait".

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

chiastic slide

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"The cover of Bossanova really ought to feature Fonzie on water-skis."

I guess you hit a sensitive spot with this one. It was a slow burn, but Bossanova has gradually become my favorite Pixies album. I mean, come on: Velouria, Allison, Dig For Fire, Havalina, Ana....

― Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

FWIW Bossanova is also my favorite album of theirs. It just seems like were playing really well at that point and, if the songs don't have the obvious hooks of some of the earlier stuff, they are all the sturdier for it.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The song "To Bring You My Love" is brilliant, but so are "C'mon Billy", "Long Snake Moan", "Send His Love To Me", and, especially, "The Dancer". It's a very good album overall.

― David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The last Bjork album and rack flooding live albums have really put me off her. I'd still pay to see her live, but the last album and a half have been crap.

― biznotic, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I would say Blur did so, first partly with "Blur" and then definitely with "13".

'Blur' is a great album and '13' is one of my all-time favourites by any artist. It really does reward repeated listening in an enormous way.

'Think Tank' killed Blur for me. Stone dead. I HATE that album. Without Coxon Blur is nothing.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that the one with the deep-sea diver/Robot Monster helmet on the front? I got out before that came along.

I never thought any PJ Harvey album was bad, but after awhile I just couldn't differentiate between them, so I decided to stop getting anymore. But then she tricked me and hooked up with Marianne Faithfull. Sleater-Kinney on the other hand, did seem to get progressively slightly worse every album. They lost me with either All Hand On The Bad One or The Hot Rock, whichever came later.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Also Paul McCartney's 'Driving Rain' album is pure excellence, but his wacko decision to later add 'bonus track' Freedom makes me literally want to stab myself in the head, and casts a serious shadow of doubt over McCartney's sanity. It has to be the most egregious song I have ever heard, which by McCartney-lyrical standards is saying a hell of a lot.

xpost: Yeah that's the one.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

For me, "Miss Machine".

-- Simon H. (samslic...), March 28th, 2005.

OTM.

― latebloomer: AKA Sir Teddy Ruxpin, Former Scientologist (latebloomer), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

FWIW Bossanova is also my favorite album of theirs. It just seems like were playing really well at that point and, if the songs don't have the obvious hooks of some of the earlier stuff, they are all the sturdier for it.

bossanova isn't my favorite (that would be trompe le monde[!]), but i like it well enough -- i'm not getting the bossanova hate, either.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Medulla is great!

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Interpreter scared me off of Julian Cope, quite sadly.

but it was so much better than 20 mothers! anyway you haven't missed much, he's only just released the followup to interpreter a few months ago. spent most of the last ten years roving around europe and writing the megalithic european.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 06:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Just how much of their fan base did Ministry lose with Filth Pig? I even skipped seeing them because of that one & really regret it..

Only PJ I haven't much liked is Stories from the City.., I was quite happy with Uh Huh Her though.

OTM re: Tori Amos To Venus and Back and everything after that.

― daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

he's only just released the followup to interpreter a few months ago.

Yeah, well, if you mean Citizen Cain'd, I have that, but you're forgetting all the Odin, Brain Donor and An Audience with the Cope albums he carelessly shat out in the past few years.

And Citizen Cain'd wasn't worth the wait, it seems.

but it was so much better than 20 mothers!

Interpretter had nothing as perfect as "Try Try Try" on it.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I still have faith in him, not least because I heard he was working with Jason Falkner and Nigel Godrich. Certainly good news.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Debbie Harry - 'Debravation.' As devoted as I was to Blondie, I haven't picked up either of the reunion albums, nor seen them live, since that last solo was so thoroughly disappointing.

― Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

but you're forgetting all the albums he carelessly shat out in the past few years.

like i said you haven't missed much! although i like odin quite a bit, actually. key tracks on interpreter are battle for the trees and dust.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Belle & Sebastian - FYHCYWLP (If they had stopped after arabr strap they wouldbe the best band ever)

Red House Painters - Old Ramon (Turgid)

Le Tigre (their second one. didn't really love Le Tigre but their first is so much better)

Karate - Pockets

― Swedish Tiger, Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Three Dollar Bill Ya'll

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Hardcore, man.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"K"

Yeah, fucking top that, eh?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 26 May 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

My favourite, too - far more variety and texture than Doolittle which while still a fine album, sounds a little formulaic these days.

― Si Carter (Si Carter), Thursday, 26 May 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Tang Dream "White Eagle"
Klaus Schulze "Babel" (?) I forget the title, it had the tower of babel on the cover
simple minds "sparkle in the rain"
"songs of faith & devotion" uh-huh, there was no going back after that one was there?

What was that industrial supergroup thing? Pigface? that put a bullet in my love for an entire genre.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 26 May 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

hail to the thief
one plus one is one

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 26 May 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Red House Painters - Old Ramon (Turgid)

well they didn't do anything after that so that was easy for you

mine:

Antics, Interpol.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 26 May 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Skinny Puppy - The Process
Nitzer Ebb - Big Hit
Meat Beat Manifesto - RUOK?

Röyksopp - Only This Moment

― jotai, Thursday, 26 May 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Rubber Soul

― Cunga (Cunga), Thursday, 26 May 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

[Bossa Nova offers] far more variety and texture than Doolittle which while still a fine album, sounds a little formulaic these days.

This may be true, and Bossa has merit. The world probably didn't need another volume of that particular type of Spanish-hued skiffle-punk even if we thought we did. "Leave 'em wanting more" and all that...

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 26 May 2005 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

>Red House Painters - Old Ramon (Turgid)

Whilst largely turgid, Old Ramon still has Void on it which is one of the best songs RHP ever recorded.

It was only their second album, but Ether Song by Turin Brakes left my love for them a bullet-riddled corpse bobbing in the bay.

― Bill A (Bill A), Friday, 27 May 2005 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Fatboy Slim - Palookaville

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 27 May 2005 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i loved almost everything until these lps:
cure - wild mood swings
new order - republic
depeche mode - the songs of faith and devotion
bon jovi - keep the faith
poison - native tongue
janet - the velvet rope
kylie - let's get to it

― rebbie, Friday, 27 May 2005 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i loved almost everything until these lps:
they put the nail in their coffins
kiss - revenge
split enz - time and tide
crowded house - woodface
erasure - cowboy
duran duran - big thing
oasis - standing on the shoulders of giants
blur - blur

― rebbie, Friday, 27 May 2005 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Another vote for 'Filth Pig' and the Cranes' 'Population 4' (although I've recently discovered the greatness of'Future Songs').

The Mission 'Carved in Sand'
Massive Attack '100th Window'
Tricky 'Blowback'
Nick Cave 'Nocturama' (I really like the last one but, you know, it won't ever be the same...)

― The Emancipation of Baaderonixx (KERERU 4 LIFE!) (Fabfunk), Friday, 27 May 2005 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris Isaac - Blue Hotel

― Poison(Ivy) (PoisonIvy), Friday, 27 May 2005 09:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Wire, Manscape

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 27 May 2005 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree with Nocturama, which killed my interest in Nick Cave. I hear the latest one is an improvement, but I just can't work up the enthusiasm any more.

― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Friday, 27 May 2005 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Idiology by Mouse on Mars. With Autoditacker they found a totally unique style and sound, and made one of the greatest electronic records ever, but Niun Niggung, while still good, already hinted that they were moving towards your standard IDM noodling. Idiology has a few good songs (the instrumental ones), but it finally revealed Mouse on Mars were Aphex Twin stylee corny indie fuxx after all. I listened to their latest LP at the record store, but I have no intention of buying it, even though they once were my favourite artists above everyone else.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 27 May 2005 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Wow, I love Idiology, including the vocal tracks!

I did buy the new one... hated it & sold it on. I don't want to revisit that thread where it was discussed again in a hurry. Radical Connector might be the bullet if it's going to be the direction they go in from this point on (that direction being bafflingly bad pop for IDM geeks who never really danced much).

― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 18 June 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

THE UNDERSTANDING

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 18 June 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

prince "come" ( i liked chaos and disorder )
debbie gibson - boduy,mind , soul ( she doesn't need outside writers)
tiffany - new inside (not because it has a nkotb boy)
madonna erotica - i think"this used to be my playgrund was her last good song).

― rebbie, Saturday, 18 June 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

Isn't there a difference between "a well-loved band's sucky album" and "the album that made it clear: they would not be returning from their journey into suckyness"?

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 18 June 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

if we're going by "the album that made it clear: they would not be returning from their journey into suckyness"?

'this is not a test'

― jeremy jordan (cruisy), Saturday, 18 June 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

Banana OTM. That's the spirit I intended - NO RETURN. NO FORGIVENESS!

Only full-on loathing need apply.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 18 June 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

see in that case for me I don't know if I can think of even one band I really loved who lost me completely - even Lou Reed, who's gone through years & years sometimes of oh-he's-finished, will turn around and make a completely excellent album (or two or three), and Bowie, the other obvious candidate, is too interesting to ever discount - his eighties were so sad I would have written him off, but the nineties (while not a return to form) were interesting again, certainly worth listening to. I wonder whether Katatonia isn't finished for good but it's not like I'm ready to say "ok, they've lost the plot" - nobody who's made an album I consider great could really qualify for the subject - only bands that I kinda liked, maybe. Adam Ant, I suppose - he never seemed to regain his footing after "Prince Charming," which despite a few good'ns was the beginning of the end imo.

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 18 June 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)

(but really all that means is "when Marco left, it went to hell")

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 18 June 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)

"songs of faith & devotion" uh-huh, there was no going back after that one was there?

not too long ago, i would've said this. but i've warmed up to exciter lately, so it's not ALL a wasteland after violator.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 18 June 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

Soundgarden Superunknown...I'm just a 'Loud Love' kinda gal, and Superunknown hailed all kinds of haircuts and melodies that presented a fairly slippery slope to this fan.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 June 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)

Belle & Sebastian - FYHCYWLP (If they had stopped after arabr strap they wouldbe the best band ever)

but Dear Catastrophe Waitress is their best record! and the three singles before were fantastic, how could anyone wish they hadn't made those?

― keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 18 June 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

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