GODFUCKINGDAMMIT - Crain "Speed" + 4 reissue on Temporary Residence

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man this sounds so fucking killer. great remastering job. love the original but this sounds like it shoulda sounded the first time. fans of loud heavy midwest-style post-hardcore nonsense, pls pick this up.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 April 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

Somehow I never heard Crain, but Im sort of interested in hearing this given the couple of reviews Ive seen. Who were these guys Mr Stencil? Any easy comparisons you can make with other bands I might know?

NickB (NickB), Sunday, 3 April 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

4-piece from Louisville, 2 guitars, bass, drums, 3 vocals (not much harmony action i'm 'fraid). earliest incarnation was a band called cerebellum, great sorta industrial hardcore/punk. drew daniel from matmos was the first singer (there's an aborted session with him that's gonna be reissued too). very heavy midwest louisville/chicago style post-hc rock ("like bastro trying to play slint"), think sorta jesus lizard-y ballpark (who they played with many times). except a little more dense, guitar-wise. jam3s murphy is a huge fan.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 April 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

I remember interviewing them in 1993. I probably sounded a fool.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 April 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

you did Ned? whoa, i'd like to hear that. i dunno if it's gonna come out but there's tapes of a radio show they did with bob weston in boston.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 April 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

I honestly don't remember if I kept a tape -- if I did, it's buried in my archives of such things.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 April 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

DIG IT OUT DUDE. INQUIRING MINDS, yadda yadda.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 April 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

I need to find the Kevin Shields interview first! (At least I transcribed that fucker.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 April 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

I almost saw them live with Unwound at the UCI Student Center during the day, but it was finals week, and the Student Center folks cancelled the show at the last minute, but still paid the bands.. so I ended up going out with them somewhere to lunch, since I was supposed to be the sound guy. The Crain guys are really funny.

(However, I did do sound for the Rodan/Grifters show at UCI in '94, and Rodan were a bomb of ROFFLES... I never thought I'd see Jeff Mueller heckling one of the Grifters when packing up begging him if "he could give him a bean burrito shit in his mouth." -- OK, you had to be there -- and then years later see June Of 44 live -- on their final Anahata tour -- and see Jeff act so, well, serious -- at least relative to his Rodan days... but anyway...)

I love that Crain CD.. the beginning guitar sounds on "Broken Heart Of A Neutron Star" is unmatched. I must get the reissue.

(pers. to hstencil.. I was surprisingly able to get that bastro double reissue via amazon, well after they pulled the cd.. don't know when it will resurface again, but in case it doesn't for some weird reason, you know someone who has it.. WINK WINK)

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 3 April 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

"broken heart of a neutron star" is on "heater," dude. maybe you haven't heard "speed?"

i'm gonna wait for the bastro and buy it so dave's kid can get some money in his college fund, but thanks.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 April 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

oh shit.. i never knew they had more than one album.

<emily latella> Never mind! </emily latella>

(I know you want to buy the bastro thing, hstencil, but ONLY if it never comes out again, you wouldn't be able to buy it anyway, and I'm sure you could also send dave a check.)

donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 3 April 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

it will come out, it's just temporarily delayed. it's not going to be deleted, i don't think.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 April 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

"(pers. to hstencil.. I was surprisingly able to get that bastro double reissue via amazon, well after they pulled the cd.. don't know when it will resurface again, but in case it doesn't for some weird reason, you know someone who has it.. WINK WINK)"

FYI - There appear to be tons of those Bastro double CDs on Amazon for around 15 bucks.

ianinportland (ianinportland), Monday, 4 April 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

i think i would check w/drag city first.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 April 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Woah there. So glad to know that Speed has been reissued. I haven't listened to them there songs in a long time.


Stencil, you truly are the keeper of the flame! (no homo)

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Monday, 4 April 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

thanks?

talk of the sound on sound sessions coming out too, drew. j3r3my told me he sent a copy of "speed" to you?!?

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 April 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

FYI - There appear to be tons of those Bastro double CDs on Amazon for around 15 bucks.

Good! Maybe the delays in the reissue got settled sooner than we thought.

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 4 April 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

i doubt it since dc's still got it listed as unavailable. perhaps amazon didn't get the email?

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 April 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

seven years pass...

Ah geez. Jon Cook from Crain has apparently passed on. Seeing a few reports here and there.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2013 03:47 (thirteen years ago)

To slightly correct -- he might have passed or might be on the verge of doing so. Trying to find further details.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2013 03:49 (thirteen years ago)

In reading upthread -- I did go through my old tape archives a few years back but alas the Crain interview didn't turn up. It's possible I didn't record it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2013 03:53 (thirteen years ago)

I just read a post from Jeremy Devine (Temporary Residence) about this. Very sad. RIP.

Oblique Strategies, Friday, 8 February 2013 07:13 (thirteen years ago)

From the sound of things via some Louisville-based folks I follow on Facebook, he hung on for a couple days but is now passed as of this evening. It's still not 100% clear to me but I believe that's the case. Very sad - I didn't know him personally by any means but I did love Crain. I discovered Heater by chance back when I was in high school, around the same time I discovered Slint and a lot of other Louisville bands (though I don't think I knew Crain were from Louisville until years later). It was a great record. A lot of people seem to prefer Speed but not me.

I had no personal interaction with anyone from the Louisville scene until I wrote my Spiderland book a few years ago. But I have to say that all the bands from that place and era had a huge effect on me as a 17 year-old—Slint, Rodan, Crain, Bastro, Squirrel Bait, Palace, June of 44. (In fact I even had the Kinghorse album and did not associate them with Louisville either, not until sometime when I was in college.) In college I loved Retsin, Sonora Pine, Rachel's, and so on. It hurts to hear about a lot of these guys facing such struggles—Jason Noble last year, and now Jon Cook (though the circumstances seem to be vastly different). RIP.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 10 February 2013 04:19 (thirteen years ago)


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