What is the status with K-Rock in NYC?

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They appear to have flipped formats, an event that was rumored to be taking place in 2006 after Howard Stern leaves. They were playing standard Modern Rock before 6AM this morning, and now they're playing a mix of youth-culture-friendly classic rock, 80's hard rock, 90's "alternative," and a much lower consentration on new music. There are also no DJ's, and one production piece claims "more music than ever before." Is Howard Stern off the air?

Does this mean that all their specialty programs will no longer exist? There's that "Import/Export" show that has the top 5 from XFM and the top 5 from K-Rock, the daily "furious 5 at 9" show and Matt Pinfield's sunday night show. But now that they appear to have gotten rid of most of the new music, that seems to render these shows useless.

So does anyone have any information?

billstevejim, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

When did this change happen? I certainly didn't notice... then again last time I listented to Krock was 3 weeks ago or so when they said they'd play the new Weezer song..

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

Hmm.. seems they've changed their website as well (which is odd, as I was just there like 2 days ago..):

http://krockradio.com/


This is rather sudden.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)

this seems like a general trend in radio these days.

Hope we get one of these in Philly.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I like this very much. Getting rid of the DJ? Meh.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)

Well I finally found something, from Howard Stern's website...

FROM ROCK TO ROCK

The big meeting wasn't to fire anyone but to announce that our station in NY, WXRK, was changing formats. Instead of playing new rock, the station is now going to play all rock. In fact, the new slogan at the station is "KROCK. Great Rock, period". Cabbie and Booker were trying to explain to Howard exactly what the format change was but they were having a hard time doing it. Howard said that must have been some meeting since the jocks can't even explain what was gong on. So radio programer Rob Cross, aka Chuck Roast, came on the air to explain. He said they are premiering a new internet radio channel called KROCK 2 which will play a lot of newer rock and alternative music and the actual radio station will play just a broad array of rock, from Led Zeppelin to AC/DC to Pearl Jam. Howard said he didn't really care about any of this though since he was leaving and wished the station luck with their new format change.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)

K-Rock before 6AM this morning (according to Yes.Net)...

Somebody Told Me
Killing In The Name
Boulevard Of Broken Dreams
Cherub Rock
Like A Stone
I Predict A Riot (Kaiser Chiefs)
Another Brick In The Wall (Korn)
Californication
Judith
Little Sister
Nice To Know You
Walking Dead (that linkin park remix thing)
Enter Sandman
Cold (Crossfade)
American Idiot
Give It Up (that shitty ska song)
Wicked Garden
L'Via L'Viaquez (Mars Volta)
Black Hole Sun
Fell In Love With A Girl


And now, the new K-Rock, as of 10:30AM...

Hell's Bells
For Those About To Rock (We Salute You)
Cum On Feel The Noize
American Idiot
Bohemian Rhapsody
You Gotta Fight For Your Right To Party
You Got Another Thing comin'
Higher Ground
Kashmir
You Give Love A Bad Name
Are You Gonna Go My Way
Tom Sawyer
Drain You
Roxanne
That Hand That Feeds
Panama
Them Bones
Cult Of Personality
Seven Nation Army
Rock You Like A Hurricane

billstevejim, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

That sucks. If anything, they should have changed their format a more 'alternative' lean, as it seemed that radio was going there for a while. Ugh. This is a really dumb move, we already have a 'classic rock' station (which plays Nirvana and the like on occasion). Ugh. It's not like I ever listen to radio, but this disturbs me for some reason.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)

K-Rock before 6AM this morning (according to Yes.Net)...

Somebody Told Me
Killing In The Name
Boulevard Of Broken Dreams
Cherub Rock
Like A Stone
I Predict A Riot (Kaiser Chiefs)
Another Brick In The Wall (Korn)
Californication
Judith
Little Sister
Nice To Know You
Walking Dead (that linkin park remix thing)
Enter Sandman
Cold (Crossfade)
American Idiot
Give It Up (that shitty ska song)
Wicked Garden
L'Via L'Viaquez (Mars Volta)
Black Hole Sun
Fell In Love With A Girl


And now, the new K-Rock, as of 10:30AM...

Hell's Bells
For Those About To Rock (We Salute You)
Cum On Feel The Noize
American Idiot
Bohemian Rhapsody
You Gotta Fight For Your Right To Party
You Got Another Thing comin'
Higher Ground
Kashmir
You Give Love A Bad Name
Are You Gonna Go My Way
Tom Sawyer
Drain You
Roxanne
That Hand That Feeds
Panama
Them Bones
Cult Of Personality
Seven Nation Army
Rock You Like A Hurricane


Oh God.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

http://fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=76389

K-Rock Is "Great Rock. Period."
April 4, 2005

WXRK (K-Rock)/New York is the latest in a wave of stations to widen its music library to the "best Rock music from the '80s, '90s and today," changing its moniker to "K-Rock. Great Rock. Period."

Krockradio.com touts the station's new playlist as "bigger" and challenges listeners to fill out an online survey about their musical preferences, stating "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Help us help you." The station has also started streaming an online version, dubbed K-Rock 2.

Immediately after Howard Stern was finished with today's program, the new format kicked off with the opening chords of AC/DC "Hell's Bells" before launching into a montage of song clips that carried a statement of "Now, More Rock Than Ever Before." K-Rock will remain jockless for the rest of the week.

Guns 'N Roses "Welcome To The Jungle" was the first song to follow the montage, followed by AC/DC "For Those About To Rock (We Salute You)," Quiet Riot "Cum On Feel The Noize," Green Day "American Idiot," Queen "Bohemian Rhapsody," Beastie Boys "Fight For Your Right," Judas Priest "You've Got Another Thing Comin'."

Featured artists on WXRK will include Guns 'N Roses, Nirvana, AC/DC, Green Day, Alice In Chains, Metallica and Audioslave, among many others. Bands from the '70s, including Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd, will also have a presence on the station’s playlist.

The K-Rock 2 webstream will be dedicated to playing the latest music offerings from today’s new artists, including bands such as My Chemical Romance, The Killers, Snow Patrol, Kaiser Chiefs, The Mars Volta, Arcade Fire, Taking Back Sunday and Interpol.

The online outlet, dubbed "the evil twin" with a "godless bloodlust for weird new music" will stream 24/7 and can be accessed via the WXRK Web site.

"K-Rock is always looking for opportunities to further connect with our listeners," said K-Rock OM Rob Cross. "Enhancing our playlist, while simultaneously launching a web stream whose sole purpose is to feature breaking music, enables us to serve a wider audience with the music most frequently requested without changing the fabric of the radio station."

Cross added, "K-Rock 2 will be the perfect destination for listeners who want to stay up on the cutting edge of new music."

 

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

well, no-one listens to K-Rock after stern signs off anyway. so who cares?

and isn't wmmr doing the same format these days -- only w/ djs? such is what i've been told.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

Looking further down the playlist, they are actually playing a decent amount of new stuff (Hot Hot Heat, Mars Volta, QOTSA, new NIN, the new Weezer single, etc), only it's not nearly as much as before.. I hope they bring back some form of daily countdown new music show (like the furious 5 at 9). I enjoy those a lot, and it would be interesting to hear them on a station that plays Floyd and Zeppelin.

Perhaps this is the future of classic rock radio. I give them some amount of credit for attempting to expand on it, since classic rock is one of the dullest formats - even less exciting than adult contemporary - at least they get to add new songs once in a while.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)

speaking about philly radio -- from the "DOUG radio in detroit" thread:

The DOUG format resembles a format other stations across the country have switched over to in recent weeks. WRQX-FM in Washington, D.C., KCBS-FM in Los Angeles and WMWX-FM in Philadelphia have recently switched over to the format, which is popular in Canada and carries names like "Jack" and "Bob."

shit, i leave princeton for good and all hell breaks loose!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the Philadelphia station is called "Ben," I think. It's on 95.7, and pretty much sucks as far as I've heard. Right now it's Nothing Compares to U, though. So that's a step up. How different is this format than Sunny 104? They don't really have DJs, and play a mixure of music that's unified by only by a broad time range (like 50s-80s) and a tone.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

yeah, but several of these stations have been through changes for nearly 10 years - remember Jammin Gold 95.7? after all, when was the last time MMR even meant anything? once they decided to chase ratings with stern, it was all downhill. what has always struck me as bizarre is how YSP used to be an all out classic rock station like WMGK and then it gradually slid into the nu-metal era once it started adding stone temple pilots etc as immediate classics.

the last radio station i felt any personal attachment to was 103.9 WDRE and they went off the air when i was a college freshman at Saint Joe's - somehow i couldn't get a signal there, but could back home (if i turned the clock radio on its side or something). otherwise, none of these stations are worth crying over. after all, wkdu plays a death metal breakfast hour!

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

From the other threads: "Modern rock is dead" according to the corporate radio analysts quoted by Billboard:

In other radio programming news Billboard offered the following:
* Modern KDLD/KDLE (Indie 103.1) Los Angeles is in danger of switching formats in April when its LMA with Clear Channel expires.

"I don't think that modern rock radio is going to its grave, but I do think it could use another revolution," Morrison's partner Preston Elliot says. "If there were another Nirvana or someone to step up and give a breath of fresh air to it, it could explode all over again."

As Goldstein says, "Everything is cyclical."

"At the moment," he continues, "the format's in trouble. I'm doubtful that it's a permanent thing and that rock is going to disappear from the landscape. I do think that until we have the next-generation artists or some releases that relaunch interest in current rock music, we're definitely in a lull. It makes me crazy that radio has been criticized widely over the past year or so for not exposing new music. Active rock has been one of the better formats in new-music exposure, and the audience is rejecting it."

steve-k, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Oh never mind, that sorta sucks.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

I want the CT version of this station to be named "Roscoe" or "Beauregard".

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

What will become of the radio DJs? Who will provide us with versions of popular songs altered to include humorous lyrics about Robert Blake and gas prices? From whom will we hear the hoarse throated introduction to this hours "RROOOCCCKKK BLLLOOOCCCKKKK"? My god, what will fill the void in my life once filled by the confused mumblings on the receiving end of twisted crank calls perpetrated by men with Austin Power sound effect boards and one sylable names?

David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

What's up with the use of "yr" on their website? That's so indie of them.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

It was all the talk of the record label office yesterday morning, so apparently it was something of a surprise to almost everyone.

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

This is very weird. I wonder what it'll do to the bands who are strivng for radio play in NYC.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

Getting rid of the DJ?

Hang the DJ hang the DJ hang the DJ, Hang the DJ.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

"I don't think that modern rock radio is going to its grave, but I do think it could use another revolution," Morrison's partner Preston Elliot says. "If there were another Nirvana or someone to step up and give a breath of fresh air to it, it could explode all over again."

So then how exactly did bands like Depeche Mode and New Order get played on MTV in the 80's? They didn't have a "Nirvana" and yet they still got airplay.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if I really feel bad about this change for K-Rock - they were unlistenable for the past several years when they were playing mostly awful heavy new rock, and these playlists look a little more enjoyable than what they've been doing.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

the OTHER thing that made K-Rock unlistenable (besides all of the gawdawful nu-metal they played) was this extremely annoying habit that their DJs had of YAPPING ENDLESSLY while a song was starting to play (and only shutting their stupid fucking yaps when the singer began to sing). i have NEVER understood the appeal of this annoying schtick -- is this supposed to be "cool"? "amusing"? WTF?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

I think it's basically Krock as it was 10 years ago with the addition of whatever leftover stuff they had from the Grunge fallout. There isn't much new rock coming out that is any good. The average Krock listener is probably more glad to hear a little more variety of rock than it would be to hear more alternative stuff.

Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was gonna say that this was perceived as the death rattle for nu-metal, except that instead of being superceded by another style, they just threw up their hands and gave up on rock, hahahaha. Indie is victorious!

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

KROCK was way too vocal about their whole "AND NO RAP" shtick.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Indie survived and now has no affiliation with Clear Channel.

http://www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/News/Alternative_News.asp

When Indie Goes Indie, It Will Stay Indie

As Clear Channel prepares to relinquish sales control of KDLD & KDLE (Indie 103.1)/Los Angeles at the end of the month (March), the early rumors of a format flip appear to be false. The Entravision-owned station is ending its joint sales agreement with Clear Channel as of April 1 due to FCC regulations, and a memo to advertisers from Radio Division President Jeffrey Liberman declares that Indy will soon have its own sales staff in place with no changes in programming.

"We at Entravision Communications Corporation and Clear Channel/Los Angeles would like to thank you for your support of Indie 103.1," the memo says. "Because of the support for Indie 103.1 from our listeners and clients like you, Indie 103.1 will continue on the air as it has been since the end of 2003. The only changes that you will see are a few new faces on the sales end.... We thank you for your continued support of Indie 103.1, and we will be contacting you soon!"

BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

they were unlistenable for the past several years

Maybe it's because they knew the flip was coming and just didn't care as much, but since about last November, it seemed they were heading in a very good direction - "Float On" was their most played song of 2004, and just as this flip came it seemed they were on the verge of breaking stuff like Arcade Fire and Kaiser Chiefs into heavy rotation. And it seemed they were just about to place one of the 11-minute Mars Volta songs into rotation as well (as you can see from the pre-6AM playlist sampling). NYC needs a "classic alternative" station a lot more than it needs an "all things rock" station.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Just before Jammin' 105 became Power 105, they were playing the best house/disco/loft/garage sets I've heard on commercial radio. Nothing raises standards like impending doom.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

This would never happen in Los Angeles where the original KROQ is located and was born in the late 70’s. Here they have been playing The Arcade Fire, Kaiser Chiefs and Muse for a while now. This has more to do with Indie 103.1 than anything but most of the stuff they play still sucks. "The World Famous KROQ" is part of Los Angeles and for better or worse will always be here.

Currant ratings for L.A.:

1. KFI-AM Talk 4.4 4.6
2. KPWR-FM CHR/Rhymathic 4.9 4.6
3. KROQ-FM Modern 4.1 4.5
^ (Indie 103.1) Modern 0.6 0.8

BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)


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