Infinite Zero (reissue record label)

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Any releases? Do they still exist?

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

I once had a quite awesome live Mississippi Fred McDowell cd that was reissued on that label. The CD was stolen, and I can't find another reissue of it.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

Can't do much for you, but I do have "61 Highway" from the infinite zero sampler that I can send to you, if yer Yahoo account accepts a file approx 6 MB. Let me know.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

PLEASE DO.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

sent. enjoy.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

They're sadly long dead, I'm afraid. Easily the finest contribution Rollins has ever bestowed upon the world of music (apart from his work on Damaged). Absolute classic for exhuming then-lost classics by TroubleFunk and Devo. Wish they were still going. I blame Rick Rubin.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

..also Gang of Four and solo Alan Vega.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

and Contortions! I have that Mississippi Fred McDowell on tape somewhere, it's fucking amazing. and Alex in NYC is Alex in OTM.

― Amon (eman), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

this is the label that should have rereleased No New York goddamnit

― Amon (eman), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

And The Monks!!!!! Hello, The Monks!!!! Um, The Monks!!!! I mean, come on.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

hmm didn't know they did that scott, my monks copy is on the german repertoire label. but yeah!

― Amon (eman), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

Yes, the monks.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

Didn't they reissue Flipper as well?

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

just for making the monks record readily available in the u.s., you know.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the Monks.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

They seemed to go on for a little longer than anyone thought, though. I was looking for info on the label a few months back, and I found some Rollins interviews where he talked about being in negotiations with Mark E Smith for the first 4 Fall albums to come out on Infinite Zero; this was circa 2000. If you look around for even more info on this developement, it appears MES fleeced Rollins for aboot 25, 000 pounds.

― Vic Funk, Wednesday, 6 April 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Yes, they did reissue Flipper. Infinite Zero was a few years to early to the table, I think. Had they done this 2002, they would be selling a lot of records.

I think they reissued some Iceberg Slim too.

― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

Well, he's still got 2.13.61 and they've reissued Trouble Funk and did initial reissues of The Birthday Party before Buddha Records took over.

― What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Wednesday, 6 April 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

it appears MES fleeced Rollins for aboot 25, 000 pounds.

beautiful!

― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

He didn't sell him an original single of "It's the new thing" did he?

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Had they done this 2002, they would be selling a lot of records.

For the record, this is the label discography:

* Mississippi Fred McDowell - Live At The Mayfair Hotel 9362-43024-2
* Devo - Oh, No! It's Devo 9362-43025-2
* Alan Watts - Om, The Sound Of Hinduism 9362-43026-2
* Alan Vega - Power On To Zero Hour 9362-43027-2
* Flipper - Sex Bomb Baby! 9362-43028-2
* Alan Vega - Deuce Avenue 9362-43032-2
* James Chance - Off White 9362-43033-2
* Trouble Funk - Live 9362-43034-2
* Gang Of Four - Solid Gold 9362-43035-2
* Devo - Duty Now For The Future 9362-43046-2
* Gang Of Four - Entertainment/Yellow! 9362-43047-2
* James Chance - Buy The Contortions 9362-43048-2
* Iceberg Slim - Reflections 9362-43049-2
* Matthew Shipp - Circular Temple 9362-43050-2
* Alan Vega - New Raceion 9362-43051-2
* Tom Verlaine - Dreamtime 9362-43052-2
* James White - Sax Maniac 9362-43066-2
* Gang Of Four - Songs Of The Free 9362-43067-2
* Alan Vega - Jukebox Baby/Collision Drive 9362-43069-2
* James White - Flaming Demonics 9362-43087-2
* Louise Huebner - Seduction Through Witchcraft 9362-43088-2
* Devo - Shout 9362-43094-2
* Trouble Funk - Early Singles 9362-43095-2
* Devo - New Traditionalists 9362-43111-2
* Monks - Black Monk Time 9362-43112-2

The following were mentioned in interviews or ads:

10 Bevis Frond albums, 4 early Fall albums, Generic and Gone Fishin' from Flipper, plus an unreleased Gone Fishin'-era album, Kollaps by Einsturzende Neubauten, a compilation titled Def Jam: The Maroon Singles featuring the Beastie Boys' Rock Hard EP and MCA & Burzootie's Drum Machine 12", a Crime anthology. http://fluxapp.com/infinitezero.php

― Vic Funk, Wednesday, 6 April 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Infinite Zero revival of sorts: Rollins has put out the two IZ Trouble Funk CDs as a $10 twofer on a new DC-dedicated reissue label (also doing this but nothing else so far)

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 7 April 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

That Maroon Singles compilation not getting to exist is making me cry btw.

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 7 April 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

but the way they shrunk the original album covers down was fugly. hate it when record company hubris leads to a 'unified' look instead of letting each album's artwork shine.

― Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Thursday, 7 April 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

yeah that was fairly lame. i coulda sworn they actually did reissue generic but i guess i'm wrong.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 7 April 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)

Def American did Generic. some time before Infinite Zero started, I believe.

Always wanted to hear that McDowell disc, darnit.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 7 April 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

ahh, i knew it was some rubin thing.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 7 April 2005 03:46 (twenty years ago)

I think AC/DC refused to let the Beastie Boys reissue Rock Hard because of the sample so that might be why there's no Def Jam Maroon Singles comp?

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

While laudable, and I love Alan Vega's new wave rockabilly stuff, how many people could have possibly bought those Alan Vega reissues? You know?

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 7 April 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

i bought almost all of those ('cept the alan vega). i had never heard sax maniac, jesus what a horrible record, i almost cried.

― gor gor the hill giant, Thursday, 7 April 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

columbia house carried infinite zero and i got the Go4 CDs in a scam

― gor gor the hill giant, Thursday, 7 April 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

Rubin had produced Accadacca by the time IZ was running tho (hexpost)

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

"how many people could have possibly bought those Alan Vega reissues?"

'Power on to zero hour' is a great, great album, easily one of Vega's two or three finest and the others on the Infinite Zero roster aren't too shoddy either. The Rev/Vega/Suicide fanbase isn't on the scale of a chart act, but it is obsessive. And completist.

― Soukesian, Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

i didn't say they were bad albums, i like that stuff. but they aren't that hard to find and most suicide completists probably already owned them. who does that leave?

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Well, OK, but remember that new Suicide completists are born every day.

I suspect the discs were out of print, & fanboy Rollins was happy to be able to throw some cash Vega's way.

― Soukesian, Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

yeah, like i said, laudable. definitely. he said somewhere that he spent a million dollars of his own money putting that stuff out.saved up from all those, um, great movies he was in.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

THE CHASE!!!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

I interviewed Rollins twice. Once, I was gonna make fun of him for being in that movie where Michael Keaton was a talking snowman, but then I thought about the Infinite Zero reissues (and the Birthday Party and other stuff he reissued on 2.13.61) and didn't. Plus, he could totally kick my ass, of course, even though he's only like, what, 5'6"?

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

I watched Rollins get thrown through a window by Al Pacino, and what's he? 5'4"? You could take him.

― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

I am trying to purchase te Monks disc that Infinite Zero released. All I can find is the Repetoire one and it is inferior in several ways (lacking cool bonus tracks, cool liner notes, oh and it's not a semi-legal boot the band doesn't get paid for).

Can anyone help? If not, can someone re-reissue this again? There's a Monkumentary gonna be making the rounds this year. Can't think of a better way to tie things in...

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

"i didn't say they were bad albums, i like that stuff. but they aren't that hard to find and most suicide completists probably already owned them. who does that leave?"

I was a young Suicide fan who didn't even know Alan Vega had recorded any solo albums when I found used copies of the Infinite Zero reissues a few years ago. Maybe he lost money on the label, but Rollins has my thanks. If that's worth anything (ha!).

For a long while in the late 90's, the discount annex of Tower Records on 4th St in Manhattan (which doesn't exist anymore) had dozens of copies of the IZ reissue of "Buy the Contortions" for $7 each. No other IZ discs, that I ever found. Just that one.

― James, Thursday, 4 May 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://cgi.ebay.com/MONKS-BLACK-MONK-TIME-CD-INFINATE-ZERO_W0QQitemZ4867422831QQcategoryZ307QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002MBU/sr=8-4/qid=1146773178/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-9222077-0573556?%5Fencoding=UTF8
http://product.half.ebay.com/Black-Monk-Time_W0QQprZ3246203QQtgZinfo

looks like you can pick one up for pretty cheap if you look around

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

The problem is a lot of those people are not selling the Infinite Zero version in spite of what they listed it under. I already had to return one copy and another person on the Amazon one emailed me back saying that they had the wrong one...

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

That Iceberg Slim spoken word disc IZ put out was a mind-melter. Amoeba L.A. often has IZ discs in the used bins (several of the sampler CDs are always there for 4 or 5 bucks). I got the Contortions one there.

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Thursday, 4 May 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

judging by that discography posted upthread, was Infinite Zero like the best label EVER? I don't see one bad record on there.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 May 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

So what bonus tracks does the Monks reissue on Infinite Zero have? I have the Repertoire version but now I feel like I'm missing out.

Just found out that Rollins reissued one of my favorite punk records ever on his 2.13.61.. uh label? press? whatever it is. Only four songs but damn they're good and the price is obscenely reasonable.

http://21361.com/images/store/graphics/00000001/NegativeTrendCover.jpg

http://21361.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=2&Product_Code=2159&Category_Code=CDs

― Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Thursday, 4 May 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

I have the Monks CD.. lemme just post the tracklisting in full, with bonus tracks.

1.monk time
2.shut up
3.boys are boys and girls are choice
4.higgle-dy-piggle-dy
5.i hate you
6.oh, how to do now
7.complication
8.we do wie du
9.drunken maria
10.love came tumblin' down
11.blast off!
12.that's my girl

extra tracks

13.i can't get over you
14.cuckoo
15.love can tame the wild
16.he went down to the sea
17.monk chant (live - 1966)
18.i hate you (demo - 1965)
19.oh, how to do now (demo - 1965)

― DOQQUN (donut), Thursday, 4 May 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

(this is the IZ version.. sorry I didn't mention that.)

― DOQQUN (donut), Thursday, 4 May 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ok so tracks 17-19 aren't on the Rep. version. The booklet for it is alright but I didn't know it was a bootleg, that kinda sucks.

― Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Thursday, 4 May 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

I think both 18 and 19 ended up on that demo collection from a few years back.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 May 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

Just found out that Rollins reissued one of my favorite punk records ever on his 2.13.61.. uh label?

wow, he reissued that? that's a great record.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 5 May 2006 00:43 (nineteen years ago)

track 17 is the same version as the Youtube video, btw.

― sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

six years pass...

fwiw there's apparently a "Red Lightnin' Records" release of the Mississippi Fred McDowell @ the Mayfair Hotel record:

http://www.amazon.com/Standing-At-The-Burying-Ground/dp/B000S5C6H2 (also on Spotify)

I had the Infinite Zero release in college and it was one of my favorite records at the time. Was stolen from me.

― eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

"Standing at the Burying Ground" is a somewhat silly subtitle for a performance at a London hotel imo.

― eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

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