Front Line Assembly (and other 80s industrial bands) S/D C/D etc

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Really digging Mindphaser right now and I have a few albums 'Initial Command' 'Tactical Neural Implant' 'Millenium' which are all different and quite superb. What else should I check out by FLA?

Also bought L'eau Rouge by The Young Gods and it's awesome.

So what other industrial bands should a newbie to the genre check out?

Mindphaser, Friday, 8 April 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

mindphaser had the most hysterically bad video ever. ever.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Friday, 8 April 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

My favourite FLA album is Caustic Grip. I'd avoid anything by them after FLAvour of the Weak.

Assuming your REALLY a newbie, check out Skinny Puppy, Front 242, haujobb, Lassigue Bendthaus, Clock DVA.

mjfan, Friday, 8 April 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

A total newbie. I know NIN and thats about it, so thanks for the recommendations! I'll check out Caustic Grip.
Whats the Ministry stuff before psalm 69 like?

Mindphaser, Friday, 8 April 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

Awesome

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

If you like the dancier side of industrial, you shd check out the whole Wax Trax label's output (their black box comp is a good starter): KMFDM, Thrill Kill Kult, etc

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Whats the Ministry stuff before psalm 69 like?

-- Mindphaser (mindphase...), April 8th, 2005

Twitch, Land of Rape and Honey, The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste = AWESOME.

latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

so Baaderonixxxorzh oh tee em.

latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Baader and mjfan are both OTM.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Caustic Grip Caustic Grip!
Also Front 242's Official Version, Skinny Puppy's Last Rites and Cubanate's Antimatter.

David Merryweather (DavidM), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

In retrospect, I think my favorite album of that whole era is probably Beers, Steers + Queers by the Revolting Cocks.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

i think that's some kind of male strip show

latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

heh

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

Nitzer Ebb's "Showtime" is still one of my guilty pleasures.

cdwill, Friday, 8 April 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Search tactical neural implant and caustic grip.

Destroy everything else.

They're dud on the whole. most, if not all, the other bands mentioned in this thread are better.

Don't listen to any industrial past the early nineties. especially anything recent. It's pretty much become the worst music ever.

jason., Friday, 8 April 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Industrial kinda became the rope with which hair metal was trying to clutch onto for dear life by the early 90s... Shotgun Messiah and other bands like that took the KMFDM route.. I mean, they knew how to make guitar riffs.. all they needed was to sound darker, and use more electronic rhythms.

Not that this was a bad thing at all! But I think that, and the popularity of Nine Inch Nails really did create this fork in the road, as did early rave music, almost all simultaneously. Dark electronic dance music didn't have to be "this way" anymore. It's no wonder that Wax Trax! started experimenting a bit more in their artist catalogue by then.. being one of the first labels to release works by Autechre and RDJ, stateside.

But anyway, that said, Frontline Assembly were the example butt of all industrial band jokes -- mainly because FLA were caught sampling parts of other recently released industrial dance songs... they became their own worst cliché. I admitted liking their earlier albums back then, but I quickly fell off the wagon around Gashed Senses and Crossfire or whatever their second album was. I wanted something more unique. Boston's Manufacture were the Nettwerk equivalent.. different sound, but same sense of tasting the raw ingredients of the formula..

"ARMED FORCES! DESTRUCT! DECEIT.. MIND CONTROL! 'YES, SIR!'"
over and over again

(although Manufacture did inadvertently play a part in launching Sarah McLachlan's career, for better or worse, and they went the Depeche/pop route on their second album, interestingly enough.)

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Don't listen to any industrial past the early nineties. especially anything recent. It's pretty much become the worst music ever.

-- jason. (jaso...), April 8th, 2005.

OTM

latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

The Wax Trax! Black Box is out of print & hard to find, sadly! Skinny Puppy's Too Dark Park is a really interesting record - took me a couple years to hear anything on that beyond a lot of awful noise, but once you get into it, it's great. Also see Meat Beat Manifesto..

Isn't this stuff due for a revival soon, anyway?

daria g (daria g), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Land Of rape and honey, mind is a terrible thing to taste are indeed awesome.

Mindphaser, Saturday, 11 June 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

i'd be hard pressed to call those albums "industrial" now.. they're basically post-PiL/Big Black music, really (aside from a few instrumentals on The Land Of Rape And Honey)

donut e-goon (donut), Saturday, 11 June 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

I think i'll buy a Front 242 album. Where to start?

Mindphaser, Saturday, 11 June 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

All of them. (This might not be true.) Try Official Version or Front by Front.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 June 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

CONTROL!

I'M HERE!

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 11 June 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

I'll try buy one of them ned. I'll let you know how I get on.
Feel free to suggest anything else in this genre too!

Mindphaser, Saturday, 11 June 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Backcatalogue is a great place to start, just keeping in mind this is a collection of their earliest stuff (1981-1985). Otherwise, Ned is otm with the suggestions.. although I think even 06:21:03:11 Up Evil would make a great intro album, if you're deep into semi-recent FLA already.

donut e-goon (donut), Saturday, 11 June 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

As for Ministry, Twitch! Twitch! Twitch! I can't stress this enough. This album was my gateway to discovering Tack>>Head and all of the On-U Sound universe, thanks to Adrian Sherwood's credits in the Twitch liner notes.

donut e-goon (donut), Saturday, 11 June 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Whats the Ministry stuff before psalm 69 like?
Ministry before Psalm 69 == Grate.
Ministry after Psalm 69 == Bites*

* = No, I'm not referring to the Skinny Puppy record of the same name.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Sunday, 12 June 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

Er how has no one mentioned Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel/Foetus etc.!?

Don't listen to any industrial past the early nineties. especially anything recent. It's pretty much become the worst music ever.

-- jason. (jaso...), April 8th, 2005.

what I just said. Love is brilliant.

No mentions either of Throbbing Gristle!? Surely they must be *the* place to start with Industrial!? 20 Jazz Funk Greats?

Sash a, Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)

I think "industrial" here means cybergothicdisco... not the old skool stuff.

donut e-goon (donut), Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:51 (twenty years ago)

"Er how has no one mentioned Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel/Foetus etc.!?"

Because I was out at the bar and not paying attention. OTM, sir. IMHO, one of the only industrial acts with a consistently worthwhile, multi-decade spanning output (although Meat Beat and Severed Heads do quite well also). With one exception (York), I find Foetus to be close to faultless...

John Justen (johnjusten), Sunday, 12 June 2005 05:33 (twenty years ago)

I think "industrial" here means cybergothicdisco... not the old skool stuff.

-- donut e-goon (do...), June 12th, 2005.


Nah lets have a full search & Destroy of 'industrial'.

Mindphaser, Sunday, 12 June 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

I just put on some FLA - god what was I thinking in the 90's

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 25 March 2011 10:48 (fifteen years ago)

"Er how has no one mentioned Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel/Foetus etc.!?"
Because I was out at the bar and not paying attention. OTM, sir. IMHO, one of the only industrial acts with a consistently worthwhile, multi-decade spanning output (although Meat Beat and Severed Heads do quite well also). With one exception (York), I find Foetus to be close to faultless...

in a recent discussion with Jim re an interview, the one thing he insisted on more than anything was that i did not refer to his music as industrial.

mark e, Friday, 25 March 2011 11:01 (fifteen years ago)

I just put on some FLA - god what was I thinking in the 90's

you were thinking what great music it was

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 25 March 2011 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

I was indeed but Millenium has aged terribly. Not sure how keen I am to revisit the older stuff, a la 'Caustic Grip'

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 25 March 2011 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

I still like Millenium a lot, stuff before that sounds really good too.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 25 March 2011 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

i used to love these guys a long time ago - but couldn't even imagine it being listenable for me nowadays. Hard Wired is abouts where my interest began to wane.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 25 March 2011 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

i still enjoy Dave McKain's artwork tho!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 25 March 2011 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

Hard Wired was my last one too (saw them on that tour - awesome) but, i downloaded the new one as it got 9/10 in terrorizer, and i really liked it.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 25 March 2011 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

I used to exist on a diet of this stuff for a short period in the early '90s. It still sounds great in short bursts, but I find it quickly gets wearing.

Hippocratic Oaf (DavidM), Friday, 25 March 2011 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

I thought about starting a thread on this but maybe this is the best place to say it: coil > psychic TV

filthy dylan, Friday, 25 March 2011 20:55 (fifteen years ago)


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