no wave ain't dead or are the magik markers not as good as they sound like on first listen?

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I'm listening to the new Magik Markers record, I Trust My Guitar etc. and it sounds pretty good so far. i think we've missed bands like this. anyone else heard it?

rizzx (rizzx), Saturday, 9 April 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I've heard it. It fucking rages. It's not close to the live show, which can be absolutely stunning. Shit, I like them a lot.

Long & Wonky, Saturday, 9 April 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

They are soo full of shit.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 9 April 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

I bought the record.

April White, Sunday, 10 April 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

"i think we've missed bands like this"

I don't think that there are other bands like this. Full of shit or not, they aren't like anything else I've ever seen.

Two-Headed Dog, Sunday, 10 April 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

I've yet to see a single thing written about this album that has told me much of anything about what it sounds like (including this thread).

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

THEY ARE NO WAVE.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 10 April 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

People said that about God Is My Co-Pilot. I still have no idea what this record sounds like.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 03:07 (twenty years ago)

they're not no wave. they're good.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 10 April 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

more like:

They're not no wave. They're no good.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Sunday, 10 April 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

Now it's clear: they're either no wave or not no wave and they're either good or no good.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)

I think The Brainwasher is a frustrated Pitchfork contributer. As well as a hair yanking victim and/or "jealous".

Tom's Of Maine, Sunday, 10 April 2005 05:17 (twenty years ago)

Tim you could always listen to the record and form your own opinion.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 10 April 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

Yes, thank you for that. You could say that about any record. I haven't developed any interest in it yet and was wondering if someone who likes it (or someone who hates it) might be interested in describing why that is.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

fair enough, like google never existed. it sounds like it could've been on eno's no new york compilation. one girl kind of singing, one girl kind of shouting, a guy drumming. both girls play guitar with no sense of melody and/or harmony. no wave is back

rizzx (rizzx), Sunday, 10 April 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

i put a track up on my weblog

check it out
http://circusoffools.blogspot.com/

rizzx (rizzx), Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Tim - go to ecstaticpeace.com and download the 3 or 4 minute video of them live - that's a pretty good slice of the band at their best. A free sample. Also - slsk??

they're great, IMHO, by the way

Pig Feed, Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

sexy sexy

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, guys. (BTW, Joris, I hadn't just read about them here, ok?)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

yeah i understand, listen to that track though!

rizzx (rizzx), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

"I don't think that there are other bands like this. Full of shit or not, they aren't like anything else I've ever seen."

So, it's not just Harry Pussy + Lake of Dracula or something again? (Just going off of what I heard on the mp3 and saw on the video now.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Not to be rain on a parade, but the mp3 sounds more (to me) like Kathleen Hanna free-associating over one vaguely noisy riff repeated over and over again. I suppose it's distantly related to No Wave, but not in any way that seems particularly interesting. As mentioned above, seems like it comes more from some 90's noise mongers.

The video: kind of embarrassing, though the bass player looks like she's on her way to an art history class at Smith, which makes for a nice contrast with the rest of the group. I'd guess that the lead singer saw Darby Crash in Decline of Western Civ. once. I love the indie geek in the front row studiously recording all the "craziness."

Sorry.

dlp9001, Sunday, 10 April 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

sorry, no idea since i havent heard those bands.

rizzx (rizzx), Sunday, 10 April 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

xpost: everything you mention are reasons to like this stuff in my book!

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Sunday, 10 April 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

thurston practically has his own cult of "smash yr guitar" followers by now, it seems. oh well, not my thing i guess.

Amon (eman), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

The video: kind of embarrassing, though the bass player looks like she's on her way to an art history class at Smith, which makes for a nice contrast with the rest of the group.

The bassist is Leah, she attends Concordia here in Montreal, but I don't think she's attending the art school, maybe lit?

Jay Watts III (jaywatts), Sunday, 10 April 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

They're like nothing I've never heard before.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

i kinda like the mp3, its far more interesting than the live video (which is just audience baiting + feedback)

Amon (eman), Sunday, 10 April 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

People said that about God Is My Co-Pilot. I still have no idea what this record sounds like.

Sorry, I was just fooling around anyway. I haven't heard them.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 10 April 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

I hate hearing alisa compared to Kathleen Hanna, like the only reference point for all females in rock and roll is bikini kill. Her voice is deeper and her vocabulary and topics ramble in a totally different way. Before I ever heard MM I read somewhere that they were riot girl stuff?? What??

Carlin, Monday, 11 April 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

The first part of the video clip (how to play guitar the way girls wank as opposed to boys) is classic riot girl schtick. And, um, she sounds like Kathleen Hanna. No shame in that. I'm sure their mothers could tell them apart. I'd love to like this band, but evidence so far is underwhelming. Is what's on the record different?

dlp9001, Monday, 11 April 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)

Oh, found more videos on their website. This one:

http://www.magikmarkers.com/movies/MM7-25-04.mov

seems more promising.

dlp9001, Monday, 11 April 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

I've seen 'em three times, and they've been very good all three times. The last time kinda sucked because it was at No Fun Fest. They were best when I saw 'em at Free103 last year; massive earblead guitar wall and yelling over mostly scattered drums that occasionally fell in really nicely with the guitars and gave a heavy pummel. improvised (not particularly SKILLFULLY [in a 'chops' sense; not a value judgeme).

they were different the first time I heard them; more like the record, by your descriptions {though i haven't heard it yet)--with more of a post-punk vibe.

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 11 April 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

GUYS SOMEONE JUST PLEASE TELL ME TO ORDER THE REKKIRD? WHERE ARE NOW, ROGER ADULTERY, WHEN WE NEED YOU HERE?

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 11 April 2005 02:05 (twenty years ago)

I like in that video one girl has the nick tosches reader on her lap;;; I couldn't make heads or tails of what they actually sound like.

AdenAden (Elisa), Monday, 11 April 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

YEAH BUY IT, NOW

AND GIVE ME THE URL WHERE YOU BUY IT, COS IM TOO LAZY TO GO SEARCH FOR IT!!!11ONEO!NE

rizzx (rizzx), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/magik.markers.html

Lemon Bloodclot (Elisa), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Is the record cover one of the girls just passively laying there while a guy is punching her in the face?? Yeah, that's cool. Way to set feminism back 20 years.

samy (Elisa), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

I have the lp-- t\he sleeve is gatefold and the pictures are beautiful. They're weird I don't think it has anything to do with advocating hitting women. That is a very simplistic interpretation. it is like a story.

Oscillat, Monday, 11 April 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Isn't SATC setting geminism back 20 years?

Open your eyes; you can fly! (ex machina), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

THE MAGIK MARKERS set release date, track list for new Ecstatic Peace album, BOSS

The Magik Markers are Elisa Ambrosio and Pete Nolan. The band will release its first studio album, BOSS via Ecstatic Peace on Sept. 25, 2007. The album was produced by Lee Ranaldo. The Markers will tour the US starting October 1 joined by Willie and Lester.

VIDEO: Lee Ranaldo talks about the making of BOSS - http://youtube.com/watch?v=UTSdUOC8Kac

THE MAGIK MARKERS
“…It is like walking around with a gun in your pocket. Know what I mean? When you have the energy of the universe burning through your meat, you have to be quick on the grill with a good rub or marinade because you know that you can explode at any time; you can take care of anything on any level and be so intense that people would just be blown back from you and have a heart attack in a parked car. So you have to be cool; it's like Superman ice cream, with legs, walking around.” Margot Kidder, 1995

When confronted with an example of magnificence in nature, such as a waterfall, Jane Goodall reported that the chimpanzees she observed were captivated, as if in awe of the beauty of the world. On BOSS, the Magik Markers have tried to capture the awe of Brooklyn. A formality and restraint the Markers have never exerted on their previous recorded material is present on BOSS, a high concept record tackling the political career of late Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley. Now the Markers are Jainists, with their mouths masked so as to not inhale even one tiny insect, here pursuing the killer gentle with a vengeance. "The linear progression from experimental rock to world beat was mapped out by David Byrne, we're just sailors on that ship now," said frontwomyn Elisa. Recorded in the cavernous dark of Echo Canyon West, with producer Lee Ranaldo working the broads like a diviner, BOSS documents the Markers with a previously unheard fidelity and orchestration. Idiosyncratic song structure and melodies interspersed with a destructive drum stomp are reminiscent of the early electrified blues of Buddy Guy, or the black hole rhythms of Visage. Mixing a gentle vulnerability with a winded egomania, the Markers have always had a musical tunnel vision; BOSS is that vision made manifest. The tug of war the Markers enact, the way they are fully prepared to start yanking their world apart as they find themselves losing their place in, makes moot possibilities of greatness or mediocrity. It makes them unapologetic soothsayers with their ears pressed to the ground, waiting for footsteps. Drummer Pete Nolan adds, "Hit points aren't attained by just rolling a 15-sided die".

With Nolan, we finally hear what Steven Hawking would have sounded like had he sallied with the drums instead of getting seduced by the easy praise of brainiac status. Like Phylicia Rashad squeezed into the capri pants of Kim Gordon, Nolan drums like there are hell hounds at his heels but he just can’t be bothered. Here both laconic and frenzied, Nolan’s drumming arms reach out like an octopus’s: playing Playstation 3, frantically searching for a hitter, building a Elvin Jones effigy for the next Burning Man. As a pianist, Nolan reminds us that the piano is a percussive, sounding very much like a limbless Bruce Hornsby. Nolan is easy to underestimate, but finally, here is high fidelity record of the strange soul of one of America’s most natural and quizzical musical mimes.

In a 2005 interview in The Wire, Elisa Ambrogio said, “I want [The Magik Markers] to concentrate on pants and focus on beards." BOSS stands as the Markers’ first stab at getting to the meat of this ambition. Ambrogio is not easy to categorize.

Nose deep in Evan Williams Bourbon and frequent trips to H&M, Ambrogio’s lyrics are like a transcription of a lunchtime argument at Ruby Tuesday between Ann Wedgeworth and Richard Kline. A guitarist whose notes form question and hatchet marks with equal measure, a musical humility to the point of ingratiation fused with all visible seams to grandiose self-importance speeds through her playing. With a mix of blues simplicity, an almost Glenn Tipton wailing and a janky Americana punk reminiscent of P.O.D. and LEN, Ambrogio avoids preciousness like she avoids telling people about her HPV. On BOSS, a tent rises right out of the empty plain and we are thrust into a full blown revival show with an audience of awkward dudes in their late 20s; it is Elisa preaching, Pete blowing Gabriel’s horn, and a merch table with a mountain of CDRs for sale. Art Alexakis wrote: "Things changed back in 75, we were all growing up on the in and the outside, we got in trouble with the police man, we got busted gettin high in the back of my friends van."

The Magik Markers were there.

THE MAGIK MARKERS - BOSS TRACK LIST:

1. Eagles
2. Desperado
3. On The Border
4. One Of These Nights
5. Hotel California
6. Everybody's Trying To Feed My Baby
7. The Long Run
8. Hell Freezes Over
9. Sonic Youth

Press photo:
http://www.engr.wisc.edu/studentorgs/sube/resources/photos/10-3-06%20(Capital%20One)/crowd.JPG

Ecstatic Peace artist page:
http://www.astradur.is/menu/kynsjukdomar/images/herpes.jpg

Homework Undone, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

Memo to PR writers: please stop trying to copy me because you can't do it. It's like Roger Kitter doing McEnroe.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Is the record cover one of the girls just passively laying there while a guy is punching her in the face?? Yeah, that's cool. Way to set feminism back 20 years.
-- samy (Elisa), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:14 (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

Were these fake Elisa posts, I recall her posting her but, er, hardly at all

DJ Mencap, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:25 (eighteen years ago)

I guess it was her, she apparently to my post about them at Noise Against Fascism on this thread: DC tonight: NOISE AGAINST FACISM

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 6 July 2007 12:50 (eighteen years ago)

Memo to PR writers: please stop trying

FIXEDD.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

six years pass...

http://www.dragcity.com/news/775

new album! 'surrender to the fantasy'

j., Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:28 (twelve years ago)

is that track-listing for real up there? they are big eagles fans?

scott seward, Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:37 (twelve years ago)

i still have never heard them i don't think.

scott seward, Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:38 (twelve years ago)

Magik Markers were really good last time I saw them. Much more slow-burn psych than the old bludgeon, and it suited them well. Interested to see what the record will be like.

grandavis, Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:47 (twelve years ago)


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