Blasphemous Rumours - C/D

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musically one of my favourite Depeche Mode songs, but lyrically possibly the worst.

any thoughts?

Grell (Grell), Sunday, 10 April 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

hey, as a 15-year-old it was the deepest thing i'd ever heard ;)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

Absolutely classic, and that goes for the lyrics too.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Minus the mechanized breathing sound effects, which always struck me as painfully maudlin, it is k-classic.

daria g (daria g), Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Those sound effects are great too (minus the 1 minute of breathing at the end of the album version). Particularly when using headphones.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

I never really did understand that "bouncing basketball" sound effect at the end there.

Kim (Kim), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

I just remember seeing that audience girl in 101 completely come apart when they played it. Even since, she (and her awful singing) come to mind whenever I hear it.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

c, but one of their least c singles.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

yes, OTM

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

The video for this one is a definate classic. Dave Gahan at his absolute gothiest.

Grell (Grell), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Birds were singing in the summer sky ;(

Atnevon (Atnevon), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

(he is crying)

Atnevon (Atnevon), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

It's fun to sing when you're moodier than you should be.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

soooo classic. the mechanized breathing sounds make it so!

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 10 April 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

Dud? Seems very banal. (Next time I hear it on the radio, I'll listen to see if I think there's anything musically cool about it. Lyrics are bad.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 April 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

The synth tones in particular are some of DM's finest.

Grell (Grell), Sunday, 10 April 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

I love those strange electronic sounds (sounds like some stuff falling from one side of the room to another one, or maybe being brought by a truck or something, dunno) that tumble from right to left at the end of the second verse.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 10 April 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

musically one of my favourite Depeche Mode songs, but lyrically possibly the worst.

These were my exact thoughts on "Everything Counts"

Aaron A., Sunday, 10 April 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

Great song.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 10 April 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

but I mean really, stick this up to any of their late-80s or early-90s singles, I just don't think it holds up nearly as well.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 10 April 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

Definitely not in my top 20 DM singles.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 10 April 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

In the late 80s/early 90s, Depeche Mode were great, but still past their heyday. Depeche Mode were never ever better than from 1983 to 1986. All synthpop fans know that, and Depeche Mode are meant for synthpop fans.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 10 April 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

Hah, I was listening to this in the car today.

Classick, as is all Depeche.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 10 April 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

Stupid and kitschy, but it works - like most Depeche Mode, alas.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 11 April 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)

Whatever else I might say about it, it was clearly a definitive moment for them as a band. When you've previously been known for hits with lines like "just like a rainbow, you know you set me free," only a song with a theme and lyrics like this could earn the (serious) description "dark".

Kim (Kim), Monday, 11 April 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

In the late 80s/early 90s, Depeche Mode were great, but still past their heyday. Depeche Mode were never ever better than from 1983 to 1986. All synthpop fans know that, and Depeche Mode are meant for synthpop fans.

this is a strange thing to say.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 11 April 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

Geir is a strange thing to be.

Frogman Henry, Monday, 11 April 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

It's the kind of thing every 15 year old ever would think was really deep. Which I guess makes it a sort of classic.

Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

This song is classic if only for the day that two friends of mine read the lyrics out loud to our sixth-grade English class as part of an extra credit project. I have never seen crestfallen expressed as acutely or as exquisitely as poor Mr. Th33lk3 did when they got to the chorus (John J: if you stumble across this thread and are wondering who did this, it was L3ah H3b3rt and Amy Fr0id).

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

*looks up from the Mojo 'electropop' edition issue that was purchased yesterday with Depeche on the cover* I'm sorry, what's this thread about?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Classic. Fifteen-year-old me was freaked out by it for the demonic "Found life, new life" sample, and the "So high, you can't get over it" Sunday school melody that plays halfway through.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

In many ways Some Great Reward is their best-sequenced album.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

*looks up from the Mojo 'electropop' edition issue that was purchased yesterday with Depeche on the cover*

It's great, isn't it? I especially enjoyed the Human League article(s), and the pics are fantastic throughout.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, just started reading through it a bit this morning. Most enjoyable though I'm already catching a few examples of oversimplifying and reduction. Still, the various interview bits are good and I have high hopes for the massive Depeche overview.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, that was fantastic. Wish they focused a bit more on New Order, but it was great (and oh so gorgeous) anyway.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

I think it's a minor DM song, though catchy. The lyrics are no more OTT than most DM songs; if I were a 15 year old goth girl, this would so be *my* song, which is its main plus.

The main prob is that the descending bassline chorus thing is just too circular. It doesn't really go anywhere, it doesn't build like, say, the structurally similar, stunningly superior "A Matter of Trust".

Ian in Brooklyn, Monday, 11 April 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

"A Question of Trust," my friend. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I think it's a minor DM song,

Well, it was a single. I remember it being pretty big for them at the time. In retrospect it might be minor, but it was definetely part of the "sobering up" process between fluffy filler like "Just Can't Get Enough" and "Boys Say Go" to their more sombre, serious, Gore-written side (ala "Shake the Disease" onward...)

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

I have high hopes for the massive Depeche overview

I thought the overview of the early years came off as superficial, but everything from SOFAD onward was very well done.

Most enjoyable though I'm already catching a few examples of oversimplifying and reduction.

I'm not sure why they felt they had to have articles on Bowie/Eno and Kraftwerk. They weren't long enough or detailed enough to convey the significance of those artists, who have already been written about a million times anyhow.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the correct, Ned. (D'oh--it's only a fave song.)

By minor, I just meant that, compared the compositional astonishmens to come, it's not, um, major?

Ian in Brooklyn, Monday, 11 April 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure why they felt they had to have articles on Bowie/Eno and Kraftwerk. They weren't long enough or detailed enough to convey the significance of those artists, who have already been written about a million times anyhow.

Some sense of general apologia, I think. Keep in mind an issue like this, though fraught with the usual 'box everything up and make it neat' peril, essentially is a cave to the reality of the fact that electronic/synth music isn't antithetical to 'real music, man,' or whatever construct has been clung to all this time by some extremely stupid people. In a fairly hamhanded but brutally effective way, this is a shoehorning of that as an honest to god tradition -- roots music, if you like -- into the canon. Not the first attempt, of course, and the whole point of Depeche as the core focus of the article is that it gives them a chance to talk about rock and roll hijinks from a group that didn't start in the sixties or seventies for once.

It'll be a long while before that fully happens for hip-hop in terms of Q/Mojo, though, beyond a fetishizing of the earliest days and/or up through Public Enemy, probably. Hip-hop understood as roots music over the last ten years is clear enough in a forum like here, but not there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

i just wish Q's production staff had paid a little more attention to who was who in the human league pix. still. [mopes off, churlishly]

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Perfection being impossible, we must embody it here. Er, wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

In my old age, it seems like the more terrible the lyrics are, the more I like a song. Needless to say I really really like "Blasphemous Rumours".

Leon WK (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Generally speaking, I'm very anti-'meaningful' lyric.

Pop authenticity is always bogus. Artiface has more shadings.
You might see why i love the Mode.

Ian in Brooklyn, Monday, 11 April 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

In my old age, it seems like the more terrible the lyrics are, the more I like a song

Interpol's your favorite band, right?

miccio (miccio), Monday, 11 April 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

that Q synth/electro pop edition IS grate -- you get to see depeche mode as teenagers! and some REALLY gay-looking photos of gahan!!

"blasphemous rumours" is still one of my favorite DM songs -- even if lyrically it's "deep" in a teenager/early 20-something way, it still hits the spot.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 11 April 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

Ha!

Actually, as long as I don't have to look at them, Interpol's fine.

A terrific thing about Cocteau Twins and RAMMS+EIN is I'm never troubled by what they might be singing about.

Ian in Brooklyn, Monday, 11 April 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

The problem with Depeche Mode is Gahan's voice is such that you can't ignore what they're singing about.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 11 April 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

the whole point of Depeche as the core focus of the article is that it gives them a chance to talk about rock and roll hijinks from a group that didn't start in the sixties or seventies for once.

Very true -- and the same can be said for the first Human League article, with the stories about those wild early gigs in front of punk audiences. That's part of the reason that I liked those articles so much.

Keep in mind an issue like this, though fraught with the usual 'box everything up and make it neat' peril, essentially is a cave to the reality of the fact that electronic/synth music isn't antithetical to 'real music, man,' or whatever construct has been clung to all this time by some extremely stupid people.

Except that few of the aforementioned "stupid people" will read the magazine, so making the "synth-pop has actual roots in critically appraised music" argument is a case of preaching to the converted. But you're right, there's no any harm in lumping Bowie/KW/Eno/etc. in there for the sake of completeness.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 11 April 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)


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