is pop music any good?

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So, I've been listening to non-top40 music all of my life, and recently I've been wondering why popular music is so popular. I mean I figure that big of a crowd can't be wrong (can it?). So, I start off slow by getting some Smashing Pumkins and Nirvana which are both fairly radio-friendly, but not quite super radio- friendly. And I think this stuff is pretty great, but then the deeper I go in the worse it gets. I start watching MTV regularly and checking out the more current bands on the charts, and I come across such bands as Nickelback, Creed, POD, and Enrique Iglesias. All my indie friends warn me to turn off MTV and stear clear of that stuff. I figure this music is only meant to be marketable, but I find some decent stuff such as Outkast, Linkin Park, Busta Rhymes and a lot of the other hiphop (not R&B) stuff too. My question is: Is it worth my while listening to all the teen pop/adult contemporary/R&B genres (developing my "pop ear"), or should i give up and just go back to listening to the other music with my "indie ear"?

A Nairn, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There is no such thing as 'developing a pop ear'. Its an affectation.

What you should do is ignore such stylistic posturing and just find loads of music you enjoy - everything else is just bollocks.

Include pop if you find stuff you like.

Alexander Blair, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

no one should ever self consciously try to develop a taste for anything. If you don't like it, you don't like it. nuff said.

misterjones, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

All my indie friends warn me to turn off MTV and stear clear of that stuff.

Sorry, that smacks of pure elitism. I just listen to what I like...

Jez, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There is no such thing as 'developing a pop ear'. Its an affectation.

What you should do is ignore such stylistic posturing and just find loads of music you enjoy - everything else is just bollocks.

Maybe that's what having a pop ear is: to just find loads of music you enjoy. When I was a kid, it was simple: I liked what I liked. Then I became an adolescent, and everything became more complicated: I mistrusted anything that was commercially succesful or commercially driven (at least for a couple years). The plus side is that I learned about a lot of interesting music outside of the main stream. I hope that now I give myself the freedom to like what I like, whether that means Brazilian influenced Hector Lavoe songs from the 70's or abstract not so abstract piano solos by Sun Ra. I'm so wonderful and eclectic I can hardly stand myself.

On the other hand, sometimes a new type of music does require a new "ear." There is plenty of music I like now which it took me a while to get. I wouldn't want to make a rule that I shouldn't give something more than one or two listens before deciding whether I like it (though this is all I give most things these days), or that I shouldn't take into consideration the fact that a zillion people like a certain album, so maybe there is something to it.

DeRayMi, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Damn.

DeRayMi, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe that's what having a pop ear is: to just find loads of music you enjoy.

Yup. You have found stuff you like, enjoy it for what it is. The world is there for you, don't worry about 'guilt' over liking something you're not 'supposed' to like. Ridiculous concepts.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

However it does make it more FUN, Ned :)

Sarah, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Self-flagellation recast as music appreciation: Classic or Dud?

Dan Perry, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

However it does make it more FUN, Ned :)

Why Sarah, you musical perv you. ;-)

Self-flagellation recast as music appreciation: Classic or Dud?

Only if I can watch you doing it. *drools* Um, I'm sorry.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Only if I can watch you doing it. *drools*

This can only happen in front of a mirror, Evil Id.

Dan Perry, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Not if you're behind the mirror and I'm in front. Er, aren't I?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mister Jones, that's an overly simplistic, narrow-minded, discourse- killing cop-out of an answer. Why shouldn't people make an effort to appreciate certain stuff? What if they want to like something they don't like immediately? Should they just give up?

Clarke B., Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

seventeen years pass...

Pop music = classic, of course. When done properly, and at its best, pop music is a wonderful, joyous thing.

I guess this is why it's so disappointing that for a while - easily at least for the last 10 years or so - I've heard far too many examples of people being shite at it. The recent collective orgasm on here for dreck like the recent Ariana Grande effort being a good example of this, naturally. It's rather disappointing that as pop music has become more critically accepted, and rockism has gradually faded, it has actually got worse.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 30 March 2019 21:58 (six years ago)


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