If the American PUBLIC not critics voted for their top 100 albums , what would the list be?

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Any lists made in the UK usually have great differences between the critics and the general public , especially if its a real cross section ie tabloid readers, people who buy cds in supermarkets and not just actual music retailers like HMV or Virgin.

So I figure that perhaps this would be even more so in the USA.
So what would be in the great american general publics top 100?
Would I be correct in thinking Eagles, Kiss, Fleetwood Mac, Shania Twain, Garth Brooks would all be high up?

If any such lists exist then it would be cool to see them too.

― The Last Of The International Playboy Playmates, Monday, 18 April 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

obviously it depends what part of the "public" you're talking about. 50 cent would be high up on some lists, the notorious b.i.g. would be high up on other lists, and at the end of the day the beatles would be higher up on more lists than anyone else. same as they would be if you polled british people. or canadians. or critics.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 18 April 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

http://www.listomania.com

― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 18 April 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

acclaimedmusic.net might have something related to a popular vote but it's mostly critics.

http://www.rocklist.co.uk/index.html (That site is good but suffers incredible, incredible lag on Firefox. I almost always freeze)

― Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 18 April 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

ack, I mean http://www.listology.com ; though that seems to be down right at the moment. Also maybe rateyourmusic.com, though I'd wager that's more similar to ILM than "the general public."

what is a music critic?

― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 18 April 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

yeah that link isn't working.
I expect theres plenty of classic rock lists and the like but i'd like to see a poll that is a cross section of everyone that isn't a writers poll like RS or Spin. Theres plenty of those.

― The Last Of The International Playboy Playmates, Monday, 18 April 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

it would be relatively similar to typical canononical composed by critcs, just with alanis moiressete and no doubt thrown in.

― latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

fuck spelling im tir4d

― latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

I don't imagine Kiss would be on par with those others.

― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

But wouldnt the millions of Kiss fans vote for one of them?

― The Last Of The International Playboy Playmates, Monday, 18 April 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

Depends which part of the American public, I guess, although I would expect a certain appearance of Boston's debut quite high in the list.

Strangely, I think a list voted by the American public would find British bands such as The Cure and Depeche Mode doing better, as both have a huge cult following in the US.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 April 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

begin with these three lists and you can at least begin to guess at the list -
http://www.riaa.com/gp/bestsellers/topartists.asp

http://www.riaa.com/gp/bestsellers/topalbums.asp

http://www.billboard.com/bb/charts/popcat.jsp

ie. it's pretty safe to say thriller, rumours, back in black, and dark side of the moon would rank somewhere in the top 100 but anything beyond that would be guesswork.

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 April 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

wow I can't believe how many albums the eagles have actually sold.

http://www.riaa.com/gp/bestsellers/topalbums.asp

I do wonder though if those who bought hootie & the blowfish would still listen to that album or actually vote for it in a poll however.

― The Last Of The International Playboy Playmates!, Monday, 18 April 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Would depend on whether the voters would be the entire American public or just the ones who felt like voting. If all Americans had voted, the list probably would look a bit like those all-time bestsellers (except those millions of Americans who bought Ace Of Bace and Aqua albums during the 90s may not vote for them anymore by now).

However, if you just count on those who choose to vote, you end up with people more interested in music than the average fan, and they usually have a somewhat more "alternative" taste.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the only people I know who like Ace of Base and Aqua anymore are critics.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

In reply to geir , i'm talking about everyone.
Whether it be in Walmart, Tower Records, Television, fave radio station or website or whatever.
If everyone was given a chance to vote.

Would Bruce Springsteen make a top 10?

― The Last Of The International Playboy Playmates!, Monday, 18 April 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

I don't think he would.

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 April 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

In 1985, Bruce Springsteen would most certainly have made a top 10, with possibly 2-3 albums. Not too certain today.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 April 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I'll bet that certain artists, like Tupac, would have positions much higher than their album sales would indicate.

― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Tupac seems to be favoured by a lot of young African Americans. Not certain whether that would be enough to get into the Top 10, however (after all, few African Americans older than 30-35 years old would vote for "All Eyez On Me").

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Tupac seems to be favoured by a lot of young African Americans.

Intriguing hypothesis.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

I think that he might appeal to african-americans up to mid-40s, especially women. Look at his sad eyes! And "Changes" was huge.

― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

You could argue Tupac is more popular with white males too.

― Actor Sizemore fails drug test with fake penis (jingleberries), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

White fans tend to pick Public Enemy or De La Soul over 2 Pac when asked to choose their favourite hip-hop albums.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH FACTS.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

Well, the facts (not sales) are evident in www.rocklist.net and they show that "All Eyez On Me" doesn't appear close to as often in those "Top albums of all time" lists as do certain Public Enemy and De La Soul albums.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Why did Geir bring color into this? I said if every american voted what would be in the list?

― The Last Of The International Playboy Playmates!, Monday, 18 April 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

And I doubt that 2 Pac would get the needed number of votes to get into Top 10. "All Eyez On Me" would probably go Top 50 though.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

Shockingly,

1. Big & Rich
2. Ethiopiques, v. 4

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe that Creed have sold more units than The Who.

And Enya?! 22 milllion units??! I should have mentioned her on that "Famous Artists People Can't Name A Single Song By" thread from a few weeks ago.

― darin (darin), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

Everyone knows Orinoco Flow! Err.. no one knows any others.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

"Carribean Blue" was a hit of sorts. I guess much of her sales are from the "Lord Of The Rings" soundtrack though, and nobody knows any songs from that one.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

Well, I guess when I say "nobody" I mean "me"!

I forgot about the LOTR soundtrack. That figure makes more sense now.

― darin (darin), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

The new age audiences are surprisingly many though. Here in their native Norway, Secret Garden are mainly known as one time Eurovision winners. However, they've been selling hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of albums to new age fans all over the world.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

What would be in a canadian public poll?

― The Last Of The International Playboy Playmates!, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

Rush?

― The Last Of The International Playboy Playmates!, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

Rolling Stone did that top 100 albums list a year or 2 ago that the readers voted for. I'm guessing it would probably look a lot like that.

― billstevejim, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

Rolling Stone did that top 100 albums list a year or 2 ago that the readers voted for. I'm guessing it would probably look a lot like that.

You're underestimating the Rolling Stone readers. My parents wouldn't recognize 50% of the people on that list and you'd see a lot more baby boomer AOR if they could vote.

― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)

What would be in a canadian public poll?

Sloan actually won the last one I remember hearing about.

― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

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