This song is sick. Holy shit.
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 18 April 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)
The first minute's vocal melody sounds a _lot_ like Let Me Fix My Weave's. In fact before the chorus it almost sounds like a continuation of that song. I don't think that's a bad thing really, as This IS Not a Test was the superior end of what she started on Under Construction, and was sadly not exalted as much as it should've been for being the apex of her sound thus far (aside from few disparate sources, such as Xgau and..Pfork's Brent D!) as it came too soon after that album.
Aside from those liquid as hell synthy squiggles, nothing really sounds new here. Almost like business as usual, as far as the last 3 years / 2 albums have been. It seems that the Neps are starting to sound more like where Timba was back _then_ rather than going anywhere unprecedented... at least the Pharrell Phalsetto parts don't sound too abominable. (Or maybe this file just hasnt revealed the worst bits yet? ) This just doesn't sound anywhere close to hitting with the force or impact of a "Get Ur Freak On" or "Work It" as the element of surprise isn't there. Of course we can't really fault her for that, as that time is over; that cultural/ sonic moment has come and gone. The problem is, she doesn't seem to be growing or taking her aesthetic in any novel direction, but is just reveling in this thumping beat, and keeping us moving along to it (do we really have a chance w/ that bass?) It'd be cool if perhaps she found some brand new producers, or brought someone we haven't heard before on board.
And after all that's said, I want to emphasize how it's still a solid production number. I really like how this track sounds so sweaty, congested, roiling, ...and underwater-y. It has a tribal element to it, as if we're just casually eavesdropping on some sort of manic jungle night water group-dance thing.
But then, "Pass the Dutch" had already exhausted the tribal-ritual feel, imo. She needs some new ideas, really. And I mean NEW new ones.
― Vic in Alderaan (Vic), Monday, 18 April 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)
― jermaine (jnoble), Monday, 18 April 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)
I'm a huge fan of Timbaland, I think he's come up with some cracking beats, but Missy has been pimping herself out left right and centre recently, doing a bit of a ludacris and just appearing on everyones songs, I mean come on, what was that rap about in the remake of "Carwash".. something about tuna fish or something? Just stop that.
I didnt even know she had a new album coming out, but I suppose she probabily does, but she has a lot of work to do if she is to better "Under Construction", which was a sublime mix of old school hip hop and her crazy nonsense sounds.. "ding da da ding ding, ding da da ding".. ahem.
― Don Rowlando (Sam Rowlands), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)
Need to hear a full, higher quality rip, but at present, I'm not so pumped.
― Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Monday, 18 April 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)
I like this song a lot! Is this the Neptunes? Its all weird and blippy and nuts. Better than her last leadoff single, surely.
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0XMGPP9V0IZOC0BZ2WSLMKIDNN
Lose Control (ft. Ciara):
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2EE5GUOL66UIL0PCWZ9QHDLNP
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)
― strng hlkngtn, Monday, 18 April 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)
― jmeister (jmeister), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)
― jmeister (jmeister), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)
The chorus kinda comes out of nowhere, but I think it will make sense upon repeated listens.
― Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)
'On & On' is great too!
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
― jermaine (jnoble), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)
― xenografia, Monday, 18 April 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)
(No way is lose control timbo)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 April 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 April 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Monday, 18 April 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)
And yeah, Lethal, it is a Timbo production!
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 18 April 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)
Hah! I was thinking of that comparison on the way home tonight, but yeah, Mantronix is more accurate.
The fact that it is Timbo makes me smile.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 April 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 April 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 18 April 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 18 April 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)
http://www.mtv.com/starmtv/ringtones/genres/genre_set.jhtml?genre=feature9
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 18 April 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)
I'm very happy to hear that this is timbaland!
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Monday, 18 April 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)
― Model 500, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)
Heard these back-to-backish on the drive home. Ciara rapping = OMG!
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)
the other track is nice too
― modernaire, I wanna be, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)
― haitch (haitch), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)
I really like this Missy track, but "Lose Control" does to "Clear" what "Rapper's Delight" did to "Good Times." I hope it becomes a hit, too.
― one time gaffled 'em up, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)
― Plus-Tech Whiz Kid (Disco) (Barima), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)
― Bill Higgins, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)
― supertwerp (supertwerp), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)
― reo, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)
Lose Control
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)
― Nick Sylvester, Thursday, 21 April 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 03:56 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)
On And Onhttp://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QOBJWM213WX32V75QVGGZ5LLF
― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Thursday, 21 April 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)
― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Thursday, 21 April 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)
― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Thursday, 21 April 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)
― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Thursday, 21 April 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)
I haven't heard it Lethal, what do you mean? (what did I say again?)
Rob Them Co's review is ace (as per), whether it turns out that I agree with it or not.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 21 April 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)
Yeah rob them co's review is what i'm talking about tho, like missy's done everything i was hoping she wouldnt but somehow the end result is that I like the song anywye. Maybe hwen i'm sorber i'll explains better.
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)
"Lose Control" does to "Clear" what "Rapper's Delight" did to "Good Times."
*shakes fist at screen*
i should add xscape's 'wassup' planet rock rip is also totally calculating, but seems 1000x less so than missy's in comparison. fundamentally its these other tunes that "work in spite... somehow" for me, that transcend that instant familiarity. obv it hardly needs saying trillions of ppl won't have heard 'clear' before, but trying to hear 'lose control' with fresh ears... doesnt make me lose memory's control. its a mess outside of the sample.
(young gunz 'can't stop won't stop' wouldnt stay out of my mind thruout all this btw; it really is a key, key txt in terms of how something brazenly drawing from the oldskool can emerge so gleamingly fresh and confident and unbeholden to its sources - witness its failed counterpart in just blaze's 'friday night' oh look we did this already)
― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Thursday, 21 April 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)
― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Thursday, 21 April 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)
xp normally now you've got me all anal about it. That last sentence took longer than usual to correct.
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)
"stay away from "old school" lecture stylestay away from timbalandum. Cant elaborate really."
Hmm this wasn't it really dee, or at least I don't remember it as being this. I guess you could say my position on Missy is that I like her making professional R&B and unprofessional hip hop, but on This Is Not A Test she was trying to reverse that distinction.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)
Meanwhile Timbaland is getting around like nobody’s business. Which is a healthy sign, I think: right now any time spent away from Missy can only have a positive effect. With each new/newish Timbaland track I hear, my suspicions only go stronger: the man needs to dump this whole pseudo old-skool minimalism schtick. Yeah, it worked a charm on Under Construction, but by This Is Not A Test what had started off perfectly poised along that imaginative/goofy tripwire had fallen headlong into mulchy seriousness. The shift in Missy’s outfits from puffy pink jackets to black leather said it all really: the time for fun was over, and old-skool-the-party-trick was replaced by old-skool-the-really-wearying-by-now-lecture. I can even hear how a track like “I’m Reall Hot” has a good beat, but its oppressive plea (“TAKE ME SERIOUSLY”) just bores me.
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
does that make sense?
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)
"It's weird that you should say that, because my impression of those two albums is exactly the reverse of yours. To me, Under Construction too often veers into the po-faced old-school-lecture mode, whereas This Is Not a Test is the easy-going party album that doesn't take itself too seriously."
I should note that the paragraph quoted above relates to Timbaland rather than Missy mainly. The beats on Under Construction are much sillier than the (Timbaland) beats on This Is Not A Test, which seem to be saying "I am a hard, old-skool inspired beat" over and over again ("Let It Bump" probably the worst example of this). That's what I mean by "lecture" in this context.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 21 April 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)
you people are nuts, as always
or just incredibly sensitive
― bugged out, Friday, 22 April 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)
and so missy likes to talk about back in the day sometimes. big effin' deal.
― bugged out, Friday, 22 April 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)
This may be at the root of my misunderstanding. I agree about "Let It Bump," regardless.
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Friday, 22 April 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)
"On & On" reminds me a lot of "Funky Freshed Dressed".
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 23 April 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)
― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Saturday, 23 April 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)
sci-fi minimalism
Absolutely. It's future shock continued and extended, self-conscious and brilliant for that reason.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 April 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)
― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Saturday, 23 April 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 23 April 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)
THANKS MISSY!
― gh, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)
Lose Control is a nasty electro pastiche. it sounds fucking terrrible/.the production is shit.
-- Savin All My Love 4 u (savinallmylove4...), April 21st, 2005.
roffle!! ummm... YSI 'Lose Control' again anyone?
I really want to hear what she's done to make it so bad now.
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)
― deej., Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)
― blabla, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 June 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)
― jermaine (jnoble), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)