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(Yeah, I wish I knew Spanish.) Okay, in lieu of my developing overnight the ability to post an MP3 somewhere, here is a list of some of my favorite salsa songs, most of which are pretty obvious choices. I don't think any of these go back as far as the 70's, and some are fairly recent. ("Usted Abuso" is an old song, but I don't know when this duet version was recorded.) I haven't spent much time search for MP3s of Latin music, though I didn't find some files for the contemporary Cuban band Klimax on audiogalaxy.com, so some of this stuff might be out there.

Frankie Ruiz: ?La Cura? ?Puerto Rico?

Grupo Niche: ?A Golpe de Folklore" ?La Negra No Quiere?

Joe Arroyo: ?Rebelion? ?Pa?l Bailador" ?Enhorabuena?

Los Van Van: ?La Bomba Soy Yo? ?Somos Cubans?

Celia Cruz (with Willie Colon): ?Usted Abuso?

Jimmy Bosch: ?La Cacharra" ?La Noticia?

Tito Nieves: ?Dejame Vivir?

Gilberto Santa Rosa: ?Que Manera de Quererte?

Eddie Palmieri: ?Malaquena Salerosa?

DeRayMi, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This software doesn't seem to like quotation marks imported from Microsoft Works. I will make a note of this.

DeRayMi, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Then try these:

Ruben Blades: Juan Pachanga / Camaleon / Tiburon

Willie Colon: Simon

Hector Lavoe: Periodico De Aller

Afro Cuban Allstars: Maria Caracoles

Grupo Niche - Mi Pueblo Natal

Alacran, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah, info! Goodness! Other contributions encouraged, if not downright demanded.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

1) You can't go wrong with '70s FANIA.
2) Same goes for Sonora Matancera.
3) You should check out some other Caribbean music as well, like Merengue, Papayera, Calypso and carnival Roadmarches.

Alacran, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Alacran, I thought you said somewhere that Colombian music was terrible, so I'm surprised to see you include Grupo Niche on your list. For that matter, I was under the impression you didn't like salsa, but maybe you just don't particularly like it. (Of course, we all can usually find exceptions.) Colombian salsa actually seems to have a pretty good reputation at the moment, though I was disappointed with a compilation of current Colombian bands that I bought a while back ("Fuentes Salsa All Stars: Hard Salsa Dura"). Too much goofy rapping mixed in.

Corrections: I think that should be "Somos Cubanos" not "Cubans." That should also be "Malaguena Salerosa" with a "g" not a "q"! May the gods forgive my editing.

DeRayMi, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was thinking of doing a separate 70's list later on, maybe for albums rather than songs. Most of the music I know from the 70's I know from recordings rather than from going to clubs. This list included a fair number of songs I have actually heard played in clubs. Still so much I haven't heard. I don't even have any Tipica 73* (etc.) albums.

*or whatever year they started.

DeRayMi, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Damn, you've got a good memory!:-) Well maybe I should have been clearer.

As with a lot of other things in life, there's a lot of Colombian music that I like, like the more lyric-driven traditional Vallenato (in all it's variations) and there's others that I detest like the more commercial type made by bands like Binomio De Oro (especially after Raphael Orozco got murdered). Papayera is fanfare partymusic and it's fucking irresistable (especially when you're drunk).

Latin music is part of my heritage. And I do like it a lot but it's not a vital part of how I function. In practice I'm more preoccupied with other types of music (check the '12-records'-thread for reference).

Alacran, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Damn, you've got a good memory!:-) Well maybe I should have been clearer.

You were one of the only people, as I recall, to respond to my previous tentative thread re: salsa.

As with a lot of other things in life, there's a lot of Colombian music that I like, like the more lyric-driven traditional Vallenato (in all it's variations) and there's others that I detest like the more commercial type made by bands like Binomio De Oro (especially after Raphael Orozco got murdered). Papayera is fanfare partymusic and it's fucking irresistable (especially when you're drunk).

I'm not at all familiar with Vallenato or Papayera, though I'd be interested in hearing either. I do plan to study Spanish eventually, but don't see where I have time for it now. Maybe before the year is out I will start taking classes again. I'm sure I miss a lot by not being able to understand lyrics, but on the other hand, there are probably some poppier things I would like less if I could undertand the lyrics. Still, given the amount of time I have spent salsa dancing in the last two or three years, I feel absurd not having some useable Spanish.

Latin music is part of my heritage. And I do like it a lot but it's not a vital part of how I function. In practice I'm more preoccupied with other types of music (check the '12-records'-thread for reference).

It's not part of my heritage (unless you could include the fact that my mom used to listen to salsa on the radio sometimes), but it has precisely become a big part of how I function. Granted, I think I'd be a lot less interested in it if I weren't dancing to it, but dancing to it changes how I listen to it. Speaking of the 12-records thread, I haven't read it recently, so I will take a look.

DeRayMi, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Here are two more favorites from the dance floor which I have finally identified after buying SALSAHITS 2001 (which covers the hits of 2000):

Gilberto Santa Rosa: El Apartamento

Rey Ruiz: Desde Que No Estas

The first one is Five stars without a question. The second one has what seem to be some flamenco allusions, which is generally a bad thing in a salsa song, but I like it. I remember what it sounds like when I've been at a club for 4 or 5 hours.

DeRayMi, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

porque les gustan las salsas?

goeff, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

wy u aint got salsa we heard of. my girl goes to salsa class and she has to dance to ricki martin and gloria istivan so isnt that what we shuld be talking about instead of boring old shit probably all sounds like benny hill show skech.

XStatic Peace, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

porque les gustan las salsas?

I've only developed a taste for it since starting to dance to it. I think dancing to any type of music is likely to reshape the way that you hear it (though it certainly doesn't automatically make me like a particular form of music).

But what do I like about it? I like the fact that rhythmically there is so much going on at the same time. Especially in a club situation, I find this overwhelming in a good sort of way. On the level of sound, I love the sound of timbales and congas. After becoming impatient with the number of rock singers who can't really sing, it's nice to hear a lot of really good singers in salsa. I may be wrong about this, but I would say that salsa singing tends to be a little more rhythmically-oriented than a lot of other types of singing, while remaining unequivocally melodic. I like the fact that improvisation, vocal and percussive, has traditional been important in this music. I like the way salsa songs build. (See "La Cura" or "Malaguena Salerosa" mentioned above, for a good example.) I've read that this is a strength of salsa romantica, which often has some weaknesses to make up for.

I like the fact that the music sounds romantic, or even sentimental at times, but it can also have a hard edge to it ("La Rebelion" "Puerto Rico"). I'd say that this music gives me a feeling closer to what I used to get from 70's Soul and R&B than anything else I hear in contemporary music. This music makes me happy.

At a club a couple weeks ago: leaving the dance floor, feeling that conga slap hitting me hard, knocking me silly. The seductive pull of timbales still sometimes reminds me of the floats with bands on top of them, rolling down the street during Philadelphia's humble Puerto Rico day parade, one of the things that contributed to opening me to this music.

DeRayMi, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Also I like when my head starts to resonate with the cow-bell, like I was some sort of cartoon character. (This happens a lot with Joe Arroyo songs.)

DeRayMi, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I forgot to mention boogaloo!

I've got this great comp called 'Freak-Off' on Harmless Records (reissues-label) with tracks on it by Palmieri, Pete Rodriguez, Ismael Quinones, Willie Bobo and Tito Puente

Alacran, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Boogaloo. I just orderd Joe Bataan's "Salsoul." Does that count?

DeRayMi, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
Gilberto Santa Rosa: La Agarro Bajando

I finally found out who does a song that has been driving me crazy for a while now. I guess I don't recognize Gilberto Santa Rosa's voice, even though I like some of his other songs. (Though I once heard one of his CDs that I hated in its entirety.) It's so romantic. It sounds sad, but ecstatically sad.

Lately I have been staying up late (on weekends) having sex rather than staying up late dancing. I hate to admit it, but I'm kind of missing the dancing (not that I can say I regret the sex). If I stay up Friday, I unfortunately don't recover enough to stay out late on Saturday.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 10 February 2003 02:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I never want to leave. . . I never want to leave. . . I never want to leave. . .

("Terminus 3")

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 10 February 2003 02:21 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...
Grupo Niche's "Etnia" is really a great song too. The introduction is a little rinky-dink sounding, but once you're past it, it's good, until the end which goes back to being rinky-dink. (Maybe there's something I'm not getting.) But in-between is great.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 6 March 2003 07:50 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
La Leyanda includes a great Frankie Ruiz song I was missing before and definitely wanted to get, though I didn't know its title: "Desnudate Mujer," with its sweet, catchy, melody and driving rhythm.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 17 April 2003 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)


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