What songs should be on it?
Of course, some My Bloody valentine, Sunshine Smile, by adorable, Sugar by Ladytron and Heavy lifting from Ambulance LTD.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
By the way: I mix using Final Scratch and Traktor DJ.
― Mr Adolph bin Streisand (Mr_Adolph_bin_Streisand), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)
― Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)
Wot Jim said. Seefeel for fuck's sake, no question. Curve would be good...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)
― Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)
Wait, hold on here -- is this meant to be a *dance* set or a shoegaze chill set?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)
― Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Adolph bin Streisand (Mr_Adolph_bin_Streisand), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:28 (twenty years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)
Ladytron's - SUgar
My Bloody valentine's = Honey Power
what else?
― Mr Adolph bin Streisand (Mr_Adolph_bin_Streisand), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)
― Xii (Xii), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Adolph bin Streisand (Mr_Adolph_bin_Streisand), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Adolph bin Streisand (Mr_Adolph_bin_Streisand), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)
― A / F#m / Bm / D (Lynskey), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)
― Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)
― jake b. (cerybut), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)
the problem with DJ'ing in 2005, laid bare.
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)
Truth.
And original poster, just put on a 4AD comp. Its pretty ridiculous that you want to do a smarmy, elitist music set when you don't know enough music to put it together yourself. Its like ... second hand elitism.
― Xii (Xii), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)
I listen to all kinds of music, I just happened to fancy playing a little shoegazer in a party.
Why don't you have a tall, warm glass of STFU, whiners?
― Mr Adolph bin Streisand (Mr_Adolph_bin_Streisand), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)
Oh, and before I forget... a friend warned me about the elitist whiners that keep screeching bullshit when somebody dares to ask a fucking question. Well, kill yourselves and fuck the body, basement boi's.
HOLLA!
― Mr Adolph bin Streisand (Mr_Adolph_bin_Streisand), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)
― Rachel S, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 05:25 (twenty years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 05:29 (twenty years ago)
― jake b. (cerybut), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)
Also, may I suggest a few American acts (who in my opinion are far better than C. Wheel or Slowdive or any of the second / third tier Brit. shoegazers):* Bright -- "Yeah! Holy Stones"* The Lilys -- anything from "In the Presence of Nothing" esp. "Claire Hates Me" or "Tone Bender"* The Swirlies -- pretty much anything from "They Spent Their Wild Youthful Days..."
― Mike McGillicutty, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 06:37 (twenty years ago)
Actually, if the thread had been titled "I plan on making people listen to me spin shoegaze even though I know jack shit about it -- how can I fool them?" then the hatorade wouldn't have been served so cold.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)
this may be stretching it, but jesus and mary chain - reverence
― jake b. (cerybut), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)
Don't really give a damn about most of these bands, but there's a Smashing Orange best of coming out very soon on Elephant Stone that I'll probably jump for.
― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)
xpost
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)
THIS IS VERY VERY VERY NICE TO HEAR ABOUT!
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)
― The Horse of Babylon's Butler (the pirate king), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)
Why not? A bit more time not spent behind the computer.
― Rachel S (rachels), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)
Coast Is Clear - CurveSuzanne - MooseThrowing Back The Apple - Pale Saints
If you can get hold of a copy, the Weatherall remix of MBV's Soon still sounds militantly funky whilst fulfilling the shoegaze brief.
Looking fwd to seeing the setlist.
― Bill A (Bill A), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)
-- Rachel S (randomsumm3...), April 20th, 2005
yeah cos it would be ridiculous to suggest that knowing and loving the music you are playing has any part whatsoever in being a good dj...
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)
as for the superstar attitude, that's the club scene, not necessarily dj'ing. are you from london/UK? the self-important prick thing would make more sense, if only that i associate lots of british dj's with that attitude. most of people i know here in SF whove been DJing for more than two years are music junkies just like you and me, and in the past four or five years we've seen people become DJ's who only want to be the guy behind the turntables "rocking the party" paul oakenfold-style, without really being a)a fan of music or b)particularly deft with the turntables. now this has been happening longer in the dance scene, but the difference was that the ambitious folks who desired the kill over the hunt in the dance scene knew that there were steps you had to take - you had to learn how to mix being the main one. now you're seeing kids who are young enough to have no real frame of reference for DJ'ing other than it being cool in a very hip fashionable way just cutting to the 'i'm looking very cool pumping my fist to this franz ferdinand record with my fauxhawk hella styled' without any of the talent, knowledge, actual work. which, if i have to spell it out, is a disservice to the people who actually are talented, knowledgable and work very hard at what they do, not because they want to be superstar dj's, but because they love music, they love making people dance and they love turning people on to their idea of good music. the poster above wants all the cachet of being a cool in-the-know dj who knows the genre enough to play a killer set, yet doesn't want to do any of the work involved. no buying records, no research on the net even - i mean how hard is it to google 'shoegazer' - he wants people already in the know to just hand it to him on a plate. i have a problem with that.
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)
― Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)
the promoters paying lazy kids to dj and all the sour-faced elitists contribute more to the death of dj culture than any fad.
― Rachel S (rachels), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)
RESSURECT THE SELECTOR.
― gspm (gspm), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)
ouch.
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)
― Rachel S (rachels), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
it wasn't that hard. the tip-offs:
>instead of the usual electro>I'm tempted to come up with a shoegazer DJ Set just for kicksfollowed by>What songs should be on it?
what definition of 'come up with' is he using here?
>goddamn the guy was just asking for some opinions on good songs.not quite. he wanted people to give him a list of songs to play at a dj gig from which he will either get money or more dj gigs. whether he's getting paid or not, there's probably someone better qualified who would appreciate the shot at playing music they have some investment (emotional or financial) in. which is part of what i see as the problem: hipsters with neat haircuts and no music getting dj gigs over regular folks with skills and taste. call me sour-faced, fine. i guess i must look like that as i watch the integrity of a culture gutted by people whose rallying cry is 'who cares'?
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)
oh wait, i've done that already
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)
how can it be?
hmmm?
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)
― Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)
― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)
as for the internet research comment -- even though its a small one, i see a clear difference between googling search terms and checking out, say, wikipedia, finding song titles, then d/l'ing the tunes and finding the ones you like best for your dj gig (ie "doing it yourself") and going to people and just asking "do this for me". once you do this your motivations are in question. why do it then?
still you seem to think its okay that DJ'ing has become this substanceless, throwaway thing to a whole generation of kids who don't care to know any better. i'm not making a blanket statement about all things - sometimes irreverence is fantastic. but what's happening with dj'ing right now isnt new, it isn't interesting, it isn't even that fun. if the kids were throwing great parties, i'd be down, i really wouldn't care! am i tainted by knowing better?
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)
chapterhouse 'falling down' is perfectlush 'sweetness and light' curve 'no escape from heaven'spiritualized 'run'ride 'like a daydream'velocity girl 'my forgotten favorite'mbv - soon weatherall mix
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)
i'm really not trying to single you out, the whole rage against the kid thing just seems a bit misdirected.
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
that said i there there is still a legit topic of discussion here.
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)
― 666, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)
And because he's an electro DJ and is doing this "for a lark." Fuck that.
― Xii (Xii), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)
― Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)
― Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
― A / F#m / Bm / D (Lynskey), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
― Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
Pale Saints - "Half Life, Remembered"Slowdive - "Alison" (a bit slow thought), "Catch the Breeze"Moose - "Last Night I Fell Again"
Oh, and check out Malory if you can (no specific titles, sorry).
― daavid (daavid), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)
― Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)
*Laughing at the Nerdz*
― Mr Adolph bin Streisand (Mr_Adolph_bin_Streisand), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)
YES, YOU SUGGESTED ME DOZENS OF SONGS/ALBUMS.
YES, I HEARD MOST OF THEM.
YES, I SINGLED SOME OF THEM OUT. I MADE A SELECTION AND I PLAYLIST. I WON'T POST IT , THO, EVEN WHEN I WANTED TO, BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF HEARING A COUPLE OF FAT SOCKFUCKERS WHINING AND MOANING BECAUSE 'PEOPLE LIKE ME' TOOK THEIR JOBS.
I LIVE IN MEXICO DUDES, I LOVE MUSIC, I MIX BECAUSE I LIKE PEOPLE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME AND DANCE. I RARELY GET PAID, AND MOST OF THE TIMES IT'S JUST THE FREE DRINKS AND THE GOOD TIMES.
I JUST WANTED TO MIX SHOEGAZER SONGS BECAUSE I WAS INVITED TO PLAY SOME SONGS AT AN ART EXHIBIT IN TIJUANA. I DON'T THINK I WILL GET PAID, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC.
AND FOR THE RECORD, I OWN 1200 CD'S, OF SEVERAL GENRES, LATIN JAZZ, ROCK EN ESPAÑOL, HOUSE, ETC.
JUST STOP SCREECHING DUDEZ. LOSE THE ATTITUDE, DAMMIT.
TO THE GUY THAT MADE AN APOLOGY, MY PROPS BECAUSE HE WAS BRAVE ENOUGH TO RECOGNIZE A MISTAKE AS I DID.
DO NEVER TEST ILX NERDZ = THEY WILL TRY TO EAT YOU ALIVE AND SERVE YOU THE HATORADE- PROBABLY BECAUSE THEIR JANITOR JOBZ DON'T CUT IT.
MABS,SIGNING OFF
P.S. YES, I WROTE IT IN ALLCAPS, WHO THE HELL GIVES A FUCK?
― Mr Adolph bin Streisand (Mr_Adolph_bin_Streisand), Thursday, 21 April 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)
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― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)