GDB's Rolling 2005 US Charts Thread

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Dinosaurs Jet (#48) and Gavin DeGraw (#50) looking to be one week away from exiting, thank god. "Holiday" (#45) and "I'm a Hustla" (#43) both new ons to the top 50, both fairly worthy--the Green Day song is sorta GD by numbers, but it's about as enjoyable as their last two. Won't go to #1. The Cassidy I'm much more excited about--maybe because it just so utterly confounded my expectations for what the dude was capable of, but I find it shockingly convincing. Bravo, Cass. Hope it's as big as "Hotel".

"U Already Know" already slips out of the top 40--not too surprising, I'm kind of surprised it made it so quickly to begin with. Also, Audioslave is nowehre to be found this week--one hell of a turnaround. I actually like the song OK. DC is up 13 with "Girl," landing at #37--I hope this song isn't still popular by the time I start listening to radio when I get home this summer. I'd hate to, y'know...have to hear it again. "Girlfight" continues to climb, up to #35 this week, and "Wait" continues to sputter a bit, slipping to #32. Whatever, even if it fell off the charts completely next week, it's mark would be made. Black Eyed Peas up 66 this week with "Don't Phunk With My Heart" (#31). Haven't heard it yet, but I look forward to another initially catchy but rapidly annoying commercial anthem. I think Miccio had some theory about them becoming the biggest band in the world with their next album--sounded like it could really happen, although I'll reserve judgement until I actually hear the song. They have the potential, certainly.

Mariah is burning this week, presumably due to first week Mimi sales. "We Belong Together" scores a #30 Top 50 entry, and "It's Like That" briefly reverses its fortune, climbing back to #26. Weezer drops out of the top 20, sadly, plummeting to #29. But, more importantly--Backstreet's Back. ALLFUCKINGRIGHT. I haven't heard "Incomplete" (#28) yet, but I've got a feeling that it's going to make me nostalgic as fuck. Can they really re-enter the public consciousness after being away for so long and having so much shift in the meantime? I wish 'em the best of luck. 50 continues to rise with "Just a Lil' Bit," up to #22 this week, and Alicia Keys continues to flip-flop around in the high 20s, landing "Karma" in the top 20 for the first time this week.

"Slow Down" is up to #19. If anyone hasn't checked out David Drake's excellent Stycast about this and other recent R&B tracks at Stylus, they should really check that out--like someone else said, it almost makes me like the song. Natalie appears to be turning things around somewhat, trekking back up the top 20 to #16 this week. But the big winner in the teens this week, surprisingly enough, is The Killers, inexplicably up five this week to #11. Is this thing gonna go top ten or what? I wish it'd stop fucking teasing me like this. Look for it to start dropping again next week, for some reason.

Rob Thomas is out of the top ten this week, falling back to #13, leaving a hole for "Oh!" to scorch through, hitting at #8. Surprisingly, after her 16-8 jump last week, Amerie hits a brick wall and falls to #10. Hope she can turn it around before it's too late, I'd love to see that song go top five. The rest of the top 10 falls a spot or two, except for "Hollaback Girl," which blazes to #3. I can't believe this--in what universe is this song a humongous pop smash? It's one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard. Good for Gwen I guess, but goddamn--could it really supplant 50 at the top? Let's hope.

Speaking of which, "Candy Shop" is still #1. Motherfucker.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

See, this last fact is why the world is sad.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

"Wait" was just added to MTV's rotation. It has only just begun.

Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

oh and thanks for the mention!

Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Why does it feel like "Karma" has been out forever? I saw that video last night and felt like I had seen it long before.

Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

What a headspin, this week's chart. FWIW, Dr. Bill, "Mr. Brightside" and "Hollaback Girl" are getting insane amounts of airplay here in NYC (of course, if the NYC market dictated the Top 40, "Gasolina" would be in its 19th week at #1).

From Billboard.com comes this: "At No. 54, the Used and My Chemical Romance share hot shot debut honors with a cover of Queen and David Bowie's "Under Pressure," which also appears at No. 14 on the Hot Digital Songs list." Has anyone heard this cover? I have to assume the vocals pale miserably in comparison.

I don't think Amerie's done yet -- she moves up to #1 on the R&B chart this week -- so I'd count on a small rebound next week when "Disco Inferno," "Boulevard," and "Obsession" commence their descents. If she doesn't peak higher than "Meester Lonely" I'll be sore disappointed.

As for the BSB's new one, "Incomplete": It sounds very much like a later-day Bon Jovi power ballad. I have no idea who's singing where but it sounds like three of them still have good voices and two are being Pro Tool punched in. I'm surprised there hasn't been a thread devoted to the song or to the larger point of the boys attempting a comeback. I suppose a sweeping ballad's the only way they could really stage it, but I wonder why they didn't just go balls-out and tack it onto a movie soundtrack like The School Of Diane Warren teaches.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

iTunes downloads:

1. Speed of Sound - Coldplay
2. Hollaback Girl - Gwen Stefani
3. Blue Orchid - The White Stripes
4. Holiday (Faded Ending) - Green Day
5. Don’t Phunk With My Heart - Black Eyed Peas
6. Under Pressure - The Used/My Chemical Romance
7. Battle of the Heroes - John Williams (Star Wars Episode III score?!)
8. Mr. Brightside - The Killers
9. Lonely No More - Rob Thomas
10. Switch - Will Smith

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

"hollaback girl" is getting huge play down here as it should, right now it's definitely in my top five singles of the year. right now i'm only hearing "candy shop" on pop stations, i'm hearing "hate it or love it" EVERYWHERE so hopefully it or gwen will knock it off next week.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

dude when we still had the box down here back in 99 that "two jedis walk into a bar" or whatever it was called stars wars score clip was huge on it. them dorks represent.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

"...and the saga begins."

It is possible Gwen will one day justify her existence to me without Jacques Lu Cont remixes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

have you heard "hollaback girl," ned? or is that your way of saying, "i've heard it, and meh"?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

ned's got personal issues, it's an oc thang

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

i haven't heard the backstreet yet either - they've gone the ac route right?

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

or is that your way of saying, "i've heard it, and meh"?

By George, I think you've got it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Why does it feel like "Karma" has been out forever? I saw that video last night and felt like I had seen it long before.

It pretty much has. We reviewed it on SGS back in November, I think. It refuses to get more or less popular.

From Billboard.com comes this: "At No. 54, the Used and My Chemical Romance share hot shot debut honors with a cover of Queen and David Bowie's "Under Pressure," which also appears at No. 14 on the Hot Digital Songs list." Has anyone heard this cover? I have to assume the vocals pale miserably in comparison.

I don't think Amerie's done yet -- she moves up to #1 on the R&B chart this week -- so I'd count on a small rebound next week when "Disco Inferno," "Boulevard," and "Obsession" commence their descents. If she doesn't peak higher than "Meester Lonely" I'll be sore disappointed.

I saw them do it live on MTV2's $2 Bill show. Sounded pretty good--they've got fantastic voices for a song like that. Didn't know it was being pushed as a single, though--hm. That's def. higher than any other MCR or Used single has charted. Is it going to fall off completely by next week? Hope not.

Could be--you're right, the #1 R&B thing is a good sign. Why "Disco Inferno" is still around at all is beyond me. And props to Gwen for curtailing Akon's ridiculous ascent to the top.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Also from Billboard.com:

"Also debuting this week on the Hot 100 are Squeak E. Clean's "Hello Tomorrow" featuring the Yeah Yeah Yeahs' Karen O. at No. 85,"

does anyone know what this is?

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

GDB, i believe that's the song featured in that funky Adidas commercial directed by Spike Jonze. didn't know that was going to get a single release, i dig it.

jonviachicago, Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I've never heard nor seen.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

i think itunes was pimping it the other day. i haven't heard it, either.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

can anyone explain to me why "Signs" isn't in the top 20 yet? The thing's been #1 on TRL for weeks--is radio avoiding it for some strange reason? Song should be mega.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

I see "Signs" on BET a lot but rap radio (or at least my local station) isn't touching it and they were all over the last 2 Snoop singles.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

that doesn't even come close to making sense.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

and I dunno if I want to chalk it up to the Justin factor, since urban radio was kind to a couple Justified singles (but then, he did supposedly get his 'hood pass' revoked after not having Janet's back in the Nipplegate debacle). (xp)

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

backlash against jt possibly, ALOT of resentment from how he stabbed janet in the back

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

xp

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

yeah. Snoop hasn't really been gritty in ages--if anything, this is grittier than the saccharine-lite "Let's Get Blown".

Seriously, there's that much of a Justin stigma? That's fucked up. Rap radio/TV chooses such bizarre things to make a stand over sometimes.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

also there's really not that much of a correlation between TRL standings and radio play, I've found. lots of videos by (or featuring) certain TRL-friendly artists do great on the countdown while the songs go nowhere on the radio charts.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

trl's a bit rigged

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I learned that fairly recently. Did you know that between BSB, N Sync and Britney Spears, there are only two #1 singles? Insanity.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

haha they were album artists!

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

yeah #1 singles don't mean that much there, especially since between those acts there must be somewhere around a dozen #1 albums

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

woah - ok "baby one more time" is britney's only #1 single, but her second biggest hit - either "oops! i did it again" or "toxic" depending on which had more legs - peaked at #9!!! i might've guessed she'd only had one number one, but i never would've figured she's only had one top five single.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

also i was kinda surprised to find out what *nsync's number one was and VERY surprised to find out what their second biggest hit was (hint: neither are "bye bye bye").

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

do #1 singles actually get heard that much more than other singles that stall elsewhere in the top 5 or even top 10? it seems almost like an arbitrary distinction, once they get that high on the chart they're at the saturation point anyway, getting to #1 is just the cherry on top.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

"It's Gonna Be Me" was the #1, I can't remember right now what the #2 was. But yeah, the three songs that in my experience were their biggest hits ("Tearin' Up My Heart," "Bye, Bye, Bye" and "Pop") weren't even close. It's strange.

And I can't BELIEVE "I Want it That Way" didn't go to #1. In my mind, that song might've very well been the biggest hit of the last half of the 90s. EVERYONE knew that fucking song.

Also def. puts things in perspective re: Britney. For some reason, however, Christina Aguilera seems to be as successful on the charts as on TRL--she's got four #1 singles.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

do #1 singles actually get heard that much more than other singles that stall elsewhere in the top 5 or even top 10? it seems almost like an arbitrary distinction, once they get that high on the chart they're at the saturation point anyway, getting to #1 is just the cherry on top.

"Will Boulevard of Broken Dreams make it to #4?" was a less catchy thread title.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

a point worth considering, though, I suppose. If you ask most people in ten years whether they remember 2004 as the year of "Slow Motion" and "Confessions, Pt. 2" or the year of "The Reason" and "Tipsy," I imagine most people will select the latter.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

well yeah, I understand why it's a coveted spot and something to speculate about. I just don't think one need be shocked about which huge hits were #1 and which were merely #2 or #9.

(xpost I don't understand that dichotomy at all)

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

the way the us singles chart works now #1 does seem to be a good way of marking 'this song was unavoidably fucking HUGE', i'm guessig with supertight playlists etc. number one songs now are as monolithic as only occasional hits were when the charts had more turnover, every number one is a "we are the world" now.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

"Incomplete" sounds like Evanescence! I shit you not!

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

"tipsy" was huge but not number one huge really, "the reason" however was just that sorta huge, ubiquitous like billboards, still surprised that didn't go number one.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

every number one is a "we are the world" now.

The videos are generally a lot better. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

the "hollaback girl" video is - HOLLA!

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I'd say "Tipsy" was one of the biggest songs of last year, really. Who didn't know that song? They might not know the verses or whatever, but if you went up to a random individual at any point in '04 and went "URRRRRBODY IN THE CLUB GETTIN' TIPS" chances were pretty good they'd whisper "everybody in the club getting tipsy" back to you.

"The Reason" only needs one word to explain why it didn't go to #1.

"Incomplete" sounds like Evanescence! I shit you not!

haha, now i'm really looking forward to this.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

*nsync's second biggest hit (by chart position) was that tune they did with gloria estefan from that meryl streep movie wes craven did. it hit #2.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

The videos are generally a lot better. ;-)

"We are the World (video)" >>>>>> "Candy Shop (Video)"

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

I'd like "Hollaback Girl" more with a different singer. Solid beat and all. And videowise the whole japanese-girls-as-fashion-accessory thing is kinda fucked.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

*nsync's second biggest hit (by chart position) was that tune they did with gloria estefan from that meryl streep movie wes craven did. it hit #2.

Oh right, "Music of My Heart".

Has JT even hit the top five solo? Think "Like I Love You" might've. Def. no #1s or 2s though.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

do #1 singles actually get heard that much more than other singles that stall elsewhere in the top 5 or even top 10? it seems almost like an arbitrary distinction, once they get that high on the chart they're at the saturation point anyway, getting to #1 is just the cherry on top.

When I was 13, I wrote a fan letter to Joel Whitburn, author of The Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits and Billboard Top 1000 Singles, and I asked him why he insisted, in the latter book, of ranking songs that had peaked at #1 for just one week highter than a song that had peaked at #2 for nine weeks (cf. "Waiting for a Girl Like You," Foreigner). The #2 song obviously had more staying power, I argued. Whitburn replied and said that he stood by his methodology because in many cases (he didn't give examples) a #1 song might have TWICE the airplay or sales as the #2 song. Which I'm sure has happened, but I'm not sure I buy it as a rationale.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

I don't think anything could save "Hollaback Girl" for me but yeah having someone other than Olive Oyl on vox might help. at least now she finally has a single that doesn't namecheck the Harajuku girls, though. (xp)

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

New-ons to the top 50 are Lil' Rob's "Summer Nights" at #46 (anyone know about this? Surprised I haven't heard it yet)

its been getting radio spins out the ass, esp. here in chicago (I posted about it back in May when I first heard it). I love it. its like the hip-hop eagles or steve miller band or something.

deej.., Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Natasha Bedingfield's slightly annoying but majorly fantastic "Three Words"

Innit "These Words"?

Hillary Brown (Hillary Brown), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

The Lifehouse track has only recently started getting radio airplay love in NYC, where both versions of the DHT are showing up with some regularity. Yay for Jessica taking a fall, and double yay for Gorillaz rebounding (wonder if they were helped much by their inclusion on the latest NOW compilation).

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

I love it. its like the hip-hop eagles or steve miller band or something.

woah that sounds awesome. Gotta d/l that.

Innit "These Words"?

yeah, mixed up with the JBs song. Whoops.

They started showing the Lifehouse video a whole lot on MTVHits too, but I don't understand why it took them so long--it's not like the song's a grower or by some new band just gathering hype or anything. Maybe it was on a TV show.

Man, after that first album, who'd have thought Gorillaz would have a hit bigger than "Clint Eastwood"? Certainly not me.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 21 July 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

missed updating this yesterday because the charts themselves took a while.

Week #9 for Mariah, now officially tied for longest stay at #1 of the year so far. Rihanna still at #2, Pussycat Dolls up one to #3, Missy up two to #4. Ludacris breaks the top ten with "Pimpin' All Over the World," now his biggest Red Light District hit at #9. "Scars" is up three to #15 (now officially the '05 recipient of the annual "If You Could Only See" award), "Feel Good Inc." continues to bullet into the top 20 at #16, "Cater 2 U" is in at #19.

Other big movers include Mike Jones, up to #22 with "Back Then" (oh man), and far more encouragingly, Natasha Bedingfield, up 18 to #30 with "These Words" and Fall Out Boy, with the pop-punk breakout hit of the year, "Sugar, We're Going Down," up 24 to #31. "Cool" (#35) and "Summer Nights" (#36) both break the top 40, and Kanye finally shows up at #43 with "Diamonds from Sierra Leone". That goofball Tony Yayo is another new-on to the list, at #48 with "So Seductive," and Mariah's follow-up to "We Belong Together," "Shake it Off," also appears for the first time at #50.

Also, it appears to be one of the slowest weeks in the history of the album charts, as NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC #21 easily slides into a #1 debut, in front of the new Mary Mary album at #7 and Carly Simon's FOURTH ALBUM OF STANDARDS at #8. The good news about this is that it makes room for Demon Days to saunter back into the top 10, up five to #9.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 29 July 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

bill does billboard list any numbers with their singles chart? cuz i saw a singles chartbreakdown in a sidebar in either usa today or the ajc or something earlier this week, it seemed to be primarily (maybe solely) radio based (albeit still 'billboard singles' chart) with i believe number of listeners for each single; it mentioned how the mariah's airplay dropped 'significantly' this week (like 91 less million listeners/listens?) and that rhianna or missy were likely to overtake it next week (they may have included the pussycat dolls in there but i block them out like a popup) but what struck me was how the mariah numbers were still WAY higher than anyone else - i think it was like 210 million listeners/listens with number two barely over 100 million; and this is after losing alot or airplay. it reminded me of something someone (you?) once said on one of these charts threads about joel whitburn or whoever noting that number one singles are profoundly huger than even number two singles and that recent thread on whether chart positions are a good gage of a song's popularity (answer btw: YES).

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 29 July 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I said anything like that, and if Billboard does list that's shit it's subscription-only (and even then I doubt it).

I really hope Mariah stays on just for one more week, long enough to top "Candy Shop" and "Let Me Love You". Then Rihanna can take.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 29 July 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

I said that bit about Joel Whitburn, who told me in a letter once that he always rates #1s as bigger hits than #2s, despite weeks at the peak position, or general chart longevity, because in many cases it is true that the #1 has such a commanding lead over the #2. However, I doubt one could say that that's always true, though, and it seemed to me at the time simply a way for him to justify his methodology.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 July 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Mariah trumps 50 and Mario! Week 10 on top for "We Belong Together". Very cool. Only action in top 5 is Bow Wow and Omarion (#4) trading up at the expense of Missy & Ciara (#5). "Pimpin' All Over the World" and "Get it Poppin'" both fall out of the top ten (thank god for the latter), making room for "Listen to Your Heart" at #10 (which I've finally started to hear and is quite good) and "You and Me" at #8 (don't get it). Other moving in the top 20 are DC, surreally landing at #14 (if this thing goes to #1, I will laugh a riotous laugh), Gorillaz crawling to #15, Weezer back in the top 20 at #18, and Mariah catapulting to #19 with the new "Shake it Off". Let's hope someone can topple Mariah for at least a week before she reclaims the title with this one.

Green Day are back up to #21, for some reason--anyone know why "Holiday" should be popular again? Natasha is up seven to #23, cool, and Mike Jones' luck (tremendous as it is) appears to have finally run out, sliding two to #24. Gwen is up to #26 with "Cool," Kelly has a "Since U Been Gone" turnaround to #28, and Fall Out Boy's bullet is running out, only up one to #30. Teairra Mari is up seven to #38. Kanye, Rob, and Jessica Simpson all make unexpected, big-time slips.

New-ons to the top 50 are Lyfe Jennings (?) at #45 with "Must Be Nice," that spanish Shakira song at #46, the pretty cool-but-would've-been-cooler-before-"Wait" David Banner song at #47, and the new Bow Wow duet with Ciara (what, the Omarion duet isn't new enough?) at #49. Hopefully the divided airplay will mean LMLY won't get to #1...but doubtful.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

LMLY = LMHY? (I know, they're v. similar-sounding.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

nice piece on 'we belong together' - http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/04/arts/music/04note.html?ei=5090&en=4901ecf683560cdf&ex=1280808000&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

He's definitely right too, it is clearly the jam of the season.

deej.., Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

LMLY = LMHY? (I know, they're v. similar-sounding.)

hah, yeah, that's the one.

I would say that, by definition, "We Belong Together" couldn't be the JAM of the summer, but I guess some people define it differently than I do.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

yeah it's not the JAM of the summer (that's 'pon di replay', 'hollaback' peaked early after all)

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

"Holiday" has been getting more airplay recently here in NYC, I guess Z100 took a pass on "...September" but wanted to keep a white rock song in rotation. I'm not at all surprised by Jessica tanking; it was a cloddy remake that didn't fit comfortably into a single format (either that, or the label withheld payola to promote it out of a misguided assumption that the movie tie-in would let the song sell itself).

Question for the chart geeks in light of Shakira's ascent: When's the last time an all-foreign-language track went Top 40 without a version in English being available as well?

And also, taking bets on what will replace Mariah at #1:
* Pon De Replay
* Let Me Hold You
* Lose Control
* Axel F

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 5 August 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

of those i'd say "let me hold you" but truth be told my guess is mariah replaces mariah

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 5 August 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
Week 13 for Mariah!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it's insanity. I think that officially makes "We Belong Together" the biggest hit of the decade (and it's closing in on Mariah's--and the all-time--record of 16 weeks).

Meanwhile, I'm thinking "Wake Me Up When September Ends" actually has a pretty significant chance of finsihing what BOBD started and making it all the way to the top. The video is the first EVENT VIDEO in god knows how long on MTV, it's the perfect end-of-summer ballad...it'd be just the thing to topple Mariah, and it catapults from 49-21 this week. Here's hoping.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Saturday, 27 August 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

of those i'd say "let me hold you" but truth be told my guess is mariah replaces mariah

This is looking more and more likely. "Shake it Off" at #2 this past week.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

I like but don't love "Shake it Off." Not as good as "WBT" or her first clubish single w JD. I wish they would release "Get Your Number" or whatever its called as a single. ITS JUST AN ILLLUSSION

deej.., Tuesday, 6 September 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

If this Mariah Carey song is so big, how come I've never heard of it?

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

Are you in the United States? It's been omnipresent for the past 3 months, covering the pop, dance, r&b, and adult contempt formats. I'm stunned if you haven't even heard it in passing.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 03:26 (twenty years ago)

He hasn't heard it because he's Mr. Snrub.

deej.., Wednesday, 7 September 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I was talking to some friends last night who were also incredulous that they hadn't heard the MC song. Though it is obvliously huge, I think its chart success is more due to a lack of worthy challengers than the fact that it just screams MONSTER UBER MEGA HIT. It's not even as culturally ubiquitous as "Hollaback Girl," really.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

Well, I don't think any of us saw this coming. In what must be one of the greatest leaps to #1 in the history of the chart, Kanye West's "Gold Digger" jumps from #19 to #1, leapfrogging over Mariah at #4 for WBT and Mariah still at #2 for "Shake it Off".

Other big movers are Fall Out Boy crashing the top ten at #8, Green Day up to #11, the (shudder) Black Eyed Peas, now at both #14 for "Don't Lie" and #16 for "My Humps," Shakira at #24 and MCR toppling into the top 40 with "Helena" (probably on the back of the VMAs).

Kanye's on top of the album charts too, obvivously. 860,000 units scanned.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Wow.

Your second-to-last post is OTM, though. I don't know that I'd have heard "We Belong Together" if I didn't occasionally listen to commercial radio. Whereas "Hollaback Girl" is something that I've heard lots of people that don't necessarily listen to commercial radio or watch MTV reference jokingly.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 September 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

Looks like this is the fifth biggest number one jump in Billboard history, after "A Moment Like This" (#52), "Can't Buy Me Love" (#27), "The Boy is Mine" (#23) and "U Remind Me" (#21).

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 9 September 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

Greatest gainer in sales! Still, I'm a little surprised that "Helena" hasn't got any higher than that already. Huh. Makes sense though. I just hope "The Ghost of You" doesn't end up as the song everyone remembers (although that's still not bad). Did Foo Fighters, NIN, or the White Stripes do anything at all on the regular charts (as opposed to the rock ones)?

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 9 September 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

(Maybe I should start a new rolling rock charts thread some time...)

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 9 September 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

(or a Rollin Rockisst Charts Thread to crush all this shit, xcept y botha; hollabacksheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet)

don, Friday, 9 September 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

Did Foo Fighters, NIN, or the White Stripes do anything at all on the regular charts (as opposed to the rock ones)?

Foos debuted in the low 30s and climbed to like #18 before hitting the sales wall. NIN debuted in the high 30s and did little climbing before plummeting all the way back down. The White Stripes debuted I think at #46 and then fell instantly.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 9 September 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm amazed that 50 Cent is at #2 on the album charts, up from #35 last week. I guess they repackaged

The Massacre

and now it's

The Massacre Special Edition

. The changes: switching "Outta Control" to "Outta Control Remix", removing "Hate It or Love It Remix" and adding a DVD. I got to say, the people managing 50 Cent really know how to drum up sales.

Gregory T (tubesocks), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
The 10-week run of "Gold Digger" finally comes to an end: Chris Brown's "Run It" is #1. Song's okay, I guess, but not all that exciting. The rest of the top five holds steady, but further down, D4L's "Laffy Taffy" leaps to #7 and Pussycat Dolls' "Stickwitu" surges to #9. (I haven't heard "Stickwitu" yet -- any good? I kinda got sick of "Don't Cha" pretty quickly.)

Other notable moves up the chart include "Hung Up," which enters the top 20 at #14 (yay), and 50's "Window Shopper," which enters the top 40 at #30.

Also, fans of "Stay Fly" will be pleased to know it inched up to #13 and probably has a shot at the top 10 within a week or two.

Among the biggest losers this week are Lil' Kim's "Lighters Up," which peaked last week at #31 before taking a nosedive to #46. And "I'm Sprung" seems to have stalled out, slipping to #10 after last week's high of #8.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Is TOK anywhere near the charts? I heard that "Footprints" was building steam.

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

I don't remember hearing anything about "Footprints" being in the top 100. It's certainly not in the top 50.

I'm glad Chris Brown finally made it to #1, the song's not fantastic but it's a very #1-sounding single (much more so than "Gold Digger," which was great but didn't deserve more than half of it's ten-week run).That D4L song depresses me, it's horrible. "Stickwitu" is great, though--sorta the "2 Become 1" to "Don't Cha"'s "Wannabe".

"Stay Fly" is one of the best singles...hell, maybe of the decade. Hope I never get sick of it. "Window Shopper" is actually surprisingly good. Can't fathom for the life of me the top 20 success of "I Think They Like Me," "One Wish" and "Here We Go". Music doesn't get much more mediocre

Disappointed "Dance, Dance" has already started to fall after bulleting to #22, but glad to see Juelz regain some momentum. And the All-American Rejects in the top 40, not bad.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 18 November 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)

Man, I missed this thread! Glad someone revived it! Shame about "Run It" at #1, it really is just "Yeah!" redux plus horrible horrible Juelz.

Al (sitcom), Saturday, 19 November 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Okay, did I know that Trace Adkins had a song called "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" (#47)? That's hilarious and awesome.

Also: a song from Rent ("Seasons of Love") is at #43!

Huge gains for Nelly's "Grillz" (ft. Paul Wall, natch) (52 --> 19) and Eminem's "When I'm Gone" (69 --> 25).

"Run It" is at #1 for the 3rd week. Not much action within the top 10.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

it'll be fucking pathetic if "Seasons of Love" breaks the top 40.

"Laffy Taffy" at #4 is slightly disturbing. There's no chance of it going to #1, is there?

Juelz jumping to #11 makes me happy.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

"Laffy Taffy" at #4 is slightly disturbing. There's no chance of it going to #1, is there?

Good God, I hope not.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I haven't heard this "Laffy Taffy" song; what am I missing? From the title I'm guessing it sounds like a ringtone.

And I hate pretty much everything from Rent.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Its a club song that lots of girls like, and it has rappers asking girls to shake their laffy taffy. I think its alright, I'm not particularly in love with it but it works in certain contexts.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Certainly not burning up my headphones or anything.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Deej: our man on the streets.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

haha well on the noth side anyway.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

(just kidding)

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

(My friends say "Our man on the internet")

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

D4L HAVE THE #2 SONG IN OUR COUNTRY DEAR CHRIST

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Also, James Blunt begins his takeover of the U.S., breaking into the top 50 this week. We can only hope it's an SNL-related blip.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I don't know which is scarier.

We staved off Crazy Frog, we can stave off teh Blunt as well.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

What you milquetoast muthafuckas need to realize is that america wants a tiny little fucking beat and somebody screaming about a butt over it. for all your mewling about inventive minimalism YOU ARE NOT READY for the revolution.

bip bip click PUSSY bip bip click PUSSY POUNDIN' bip bip click PUSSY bip bip click PUSSY POUNDIN' will be the theme of your children's prom night. and they will find it square.

'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)


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