In 30 years, what band(s) will be considered most influential? Radiohead?

(And I love Radiohead. But I wouldn't wish that fate on anyone. Also, you are on crack.)

-- Will Spitz (wspit...), April 21st, 2005.

It's already pretty obvious that they aren't the Beatles of our generation, i.e. do not inspire a Beatle-mania-like fervor, are not as popular, etc.

I agree with Keith and Ned, but RH seems as good a guess as any.

*cough*

sorry, they're, like, children or something.

and to answer the question: you might be right, but I hope it's Aphex or someone like that. Cornelius?

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My Computer
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Nação Zumbi
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That's certainly true. There will never be another Beatles in that sense. But musically, I don't really think anyone holds a candle to them in terms of innovation within the realm of pop music. You always hear people talk about the first time they heard the Beatles it was unlike anything they had ever heard before. It's the same way, for me at least, with Radiohead's more recent albums. They sound...futuristic, for lack of a better term.

But they won't be of our generation!

Oh, we've got more where they came from. Wait until you hear the most influential Keane inspired band ever to come out of Northampton, Atlantic Blue. You'll shit your pants ten-time.

dude every single sentence there is batshit insane.

when I first heard the Beatles I was totally underwhelmed. there are still only about two Beatles songs I can bear to listen to.

I've always found more Beach Boys influences in pop music today.

OTM

I never bought the argument that punk bands, in the words of Springsteen, "changed the rules of the game." Punk rock b/w '77 adn '79 never meant shit commerically. ELP, disco, Fleetwood Mac, the Eagles, and ELP had and continued to have hits.

As for the original question, I mean, why bother? It reminds me of those MOJO and Select articles that come out every couple of weeks in which a new writer tries to find something new to say about "OK Computer" or The Stone Roses.

Because of The Beatles, the music industry evolved to accomodate original artists. The LP became an artistic statement, rather than a collection of singles and stuffer. They revolutionized audio production with George Martin. An entire generation hung on their every word and note.

Radiohead, a fine band, may strongly influence future musicians. But it's ridiculous to think another band will ever have the influence on music that The Beatles had.

*runs away*

His influence is at the very least, disproportionate to his body of recorded work.

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70s
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should be added to urban dictionary as a definition of OTM.

-- Ian Riese-Moraine. To Hell with you and your gradual evolution! (eastern_mantr...), April 21st, 2005 3:18 AM. (later)

yay! i dang well hope so

The "credit" passes to Radiohead because Radiohead fans greatly outnumber Autechre fans, and the former group weren't listening to electronic music before Radiohead decided to dabble in it.

Funnily enough, I've never head an Autechre song that sounds anything like anything I'd ever want to listen to.

1. Massive popularity and availability
2. Lasting appeal/universality of said appeal
3. Huge output of material

SO - likely answers? U2, Metallica, or something we haven't seen yet.

Boring, not what I would hope for, but probably true...

The next act to do it would have to be someone who not only pointed the direction for which music and culture would go but was also a representation of the generation that they came from and the ones that would follow. Many of the things the Beatles did in terms of lifestyle were shocking for their day but are commonplace in today's world. The other thing is that the Beatles weren't immediately groundbreaking in many ways when they first arrived, playing simple merseybeat songs and having a clean image, thus allowing them to gain entrance into middle-American (middle-class British?) homes and earn their trust. The Beatles looked and acted in many ways like the generation before them but they possesed just enough of that extra something that showed they were also what was to come. The next act would have to be a consistent #1 act for a time and would have to already have a lock on the minds of young people before the cultural upheaval.
None of the acts mentions ever have had that kind of acceptability in middle-America (or have come close to it). See, from there they can morph and slowly deviate the culture from within, since they are already popular with youths and can influence them. From there would come the influence that would make them as "big" as the Beatles. No music acts can be as popular like that anymore (imo) because of the expansion of the media, which now creates overexposure and the too-much-information side of the business that can make an act lose its mystique very quickly.

Radiohead could easily be one of the most dated groups 30 years from now. They could represent what would be considered "pseudo-experimentation" with electronics (by future generations) and would be the epitome of late-20th century subjectivism and introspection, at least lyrically.

In the same way listening to a rock record from before the late-60's can sound incredibly naive and silly (think of all the love songs and how few of them sound like that today) so all the stuff we take for granted today could be completely laughed off by future generations as being irrelevant.

The next Beatles will probably bridge gaps and possess attitudes of past generations mixed with all kinds of weird beliefs and attitudes that would appall some of us. You never know.

As for the ones considered most influential in 30 years, I would guess most of them are not yet formed. Not a lot of the bands most influential on today's music were formed by 1975.

True, but also some kind of coincidence timing.

Plus, there are acts that have been considerably more influential than their actualy commercial popularity would suggest, such as Velvet Underground, Kraftwerk or Joy Division.