Late Night Tales - The Flaming Lips' "Back To Mine".. kinda

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Track listing:

1. Bjork – Unravel
2. Miles Davis – My Ship
3. Chris Bell – Speed Of Sound
4. Faust – It's A Bit of A Pain
5. Roxy Music – 2HB
6. Alfie – People
7. Aphex Twin – Film
8. Mice Parade – Galileo
9. The Chameleons – Up The Down Escalator
10. The Flaming Lips – Seven Nation Army (Harry Potter’s and George W. Bush’s Severed Head Arm Mix)
11. The Chemical Brothers – Playground For A Wedgeless Firm
12. Love & Rockets – Saudade
13. Lush – Monochrome
14. Psychedelic Furs – Sleep Comes Down
15. Nick Drake – River Man
16. Sebadoh – On Fire
17. Radiohead – Pyramid Song
18. 10cc – I’m Not In Love
19. Brian Eno – Another Green World
20. David Shrigley – The Jist

It's almost like one, except the Lips themselves do a cover of the White Stripes song above.. they have really verbose liner notes, explaining the whole deal with the CD.

While I think the Lips jumped the Shark with Yoshimi, I have to give them props for this compilation.. if for anything, including not only a Chameleons song, but possibly their greatest song.

― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 22 April 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

it looks a bit drab?

― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 22 April 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

I dunno.. I'm willing to give this a shot. Thing is.. I have about a third of these songs in my own collection already... so I'm hard pressed to actually buy the damn thing. But I think this looks like a really good mix CD. If the Sebadoh and Lips' White Stripes cover, for example, mix in well enough such that I don't get bored with either, than the mix does its job!

Granted, the Lips have always been more Anglophilic than most of their fans realize... that may bore UK folks, surely, but might be a nice thing for the alt/rock U.S. set.

― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 22 April 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Are the songs *mixed* together, like a DJ mix? Or is it just a comp. CD?

― On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 22 April 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

im kinda confused with this release. why would anyone buy it? why should i bother reviewing it?

nothing against the lips or the co. that releasing it, but im just a bit baffled. i like the back to mine and under the influence records beacuse they shed light on an artists taste and background. and sure this does something like that, but its basicly a celebrety playlist with liner notes...i didnt get that grandaddy version of this either.

― b b, Friday, 22 April 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

That Seven Nation Army cover is such a disappointment.

― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 22 April 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

this CD is "blended" and not "mixed". mixed to me means beatmatched and none of the Back to Mine discs are actually beatmatched.

can i just say how fed up i am with tossers like Flaming Lips and Morrissey compiling discs like this. stick to your boring old rock and roll and let the electronic musicians keep the format for themselves. complete and total bullshit. oh, just so you know i'm being fair, i HATED the newOrder Back to Mine and there's almost nothing of theirs i hate. what's the point of a mixed disc if you aren't going to beatmatch?

― biznotic, Friday, 22 April 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

WOOHOO MIXISM AHOY!

― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

I bet sound effects for beat matching DJs are cop outs, too, eh?

"They're not KEEPIN' IT REAL!"

― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

The Love and Rockets track is aces, but I already own it. If this were available for eight bucks I'd buy it, but nine is too close to ten, and ten is too much.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

It's an enjoyable enough collection of songs but I already know most well (in some cases too well). This is precisely why I *don't* want it, or rather would just simply read the liner notes.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Well, the liner notes on the back of the CD are basically saying in brief "If you're one of those Lips completist types, thumbs up! But hey, if ya don't mind, we're gonna make you pay for our crappy cover of a White Stripes song by listening to other bands we like and have influenced us over the years".

Good for them!

― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

I think that comps like this are always a great idea for promo, but not as stand-alone products. I wish they'd just stream it from the website, or summat.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

Will it work? I have no idea. But if it turns a guy who listens to nothing but the Rev, the Lips, the Shins, etc. to the Chameleons and Love & Rockets and the Psych Furs, why not?

Remy, in theory, I agree with you.. but not all music fans are people who may even have a computer, much less spend the time to click on a mix CD stream online somewhere.

― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

I do agree that something like this should be EP-priced. Then again, licensing issues for the songs may have forced this CD to cost more than originally intended.

― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

i'm by no means a dj purist. i love straight up 2 turntables and mixer as much as i enjoy restructured "mixes" done in Ableton Live (Scion/Sasha). it's played-out rockers like Flaming Lips and even Ian Brown (though his dancehall/hip-hop selections were interesting) that shouldn't be putting out mixes. if you can't beatmatch or at least spend some time restructuring songs to create a flow, you shouldn't be mixing at all.

― biznotic, Saturday, 23 April 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

But if it turns a guy who listens to nothing but the Rev, the Lips, the Shins, etc. to the Chameleons and Love & Rockets and the Psych Furs, why not?

Heh, true! I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just not something I'd need. And while I wouldn't say "Up the Down Escalator" is the Chams' best ever, it's because there are about ten or so songs they have which are so high in my estimation I can't specifically pick one or the other.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 April 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

The Four Tet LNT disc is enjoyable.

― efil4zelffor (deangulberry), Saturday, 23 April 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

Four Tet's track list:

1. Rahsaan Roland Kirk - Haunted Feelings
2. Koushik - Battle Rhymes For Battle Times
3. Hal Baine - Wiggy (Edit)
4. Manfred Mann's Chapter 3 - One Way Glass
5. Terry Riley - Music For The Gift (Part 2)
6. Max Roach (M' Boom)- January V
7. Tortoise - Why We Fight
8. Gravediggaz - 2 Cups Of Blood
9. Smoke - Griffo (Edit)
10. The Sun Ra Arkestra - Nuclear War (Live Version)
11. Joe Henderson - Earth
12. Linda Perhacs - Parallelograms
13. Four Tet - Castles Made Of Sand
14. Jef Gilson & Malagasy - Valiha Del
15. Madvillain - Strange Ways (Koushik Mix)
16. Smoke - Griffo (Edit)
17. Fairport Convention - Tale In Hard Time
18. J Saunders - Tinkle
19. Icarus - Benevolant Incubator
20. Manitoba - 218 Beverley
21. Story by David Shrigley

― efil4zelffor (deangulberry), Saturday, 23 April 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

it's played-out rockers like Flaming Lips and even Ian Brown (though his dancehall/hip-hop selections were interesting) that shouldn't be putting out mixes. if you can't beatmatch or at least spend some time restructuring songs to create a flow, you shouldn't be mixing at all.

So you have listened to the Lips and Ian Brown mixes and decided they have no flow then? (I'm asking earnestly.. if you have, then that's cool.. you have your opinion.)

― donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 23 April 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

Whoa, that Four Tet mix looks great!!

― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Saturday, 23 April 2005 05:26 (twenty years ago)

i dont think these things need to be mixed or anything, but, looking at the four tet one, surely it has some value the lips one doesnt? it just puzzles me that a band gets a chance to make one of these and can introduce some stuff to people that they mightnt know, and they just put out a bunch of stuff their target audience presumably already has. what is the point of this compilation?

― charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 23 April 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

Well exactly, charlton. I have the four tet one and it's like going to an exhibition curated by one of your favourite musicians. The Tommy Gerrero LNT is similarly exciting. Much as I like some of those records, I don't feel that the Flaming Lips' compil has quite the romance of the series at its best.

― Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Saturday, 23 April 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

yes donut, i've listened to both and determined they lacked flow. i've only heard the middle of the Flaming Lips mix to be honest but it sounded no different than a random hour at KEXP or my old college radio station and that's not good enough to warrant selling to fans. things like this should be given away for free at a concert or to fan-club members. Late Night Tales and Back to Mine were both formats created for DJ's to show a showcase their chillout favorites in an updated Balearic style. Rockers Djing at clubs and selling cd compilations like this should be deducted 5 points in the final standings.

― biznotic, Saturday, 23 April 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

I listened to the first nine tracks last night at Easy Street, and, granted, while I only knew about one of two of the tracks, it was pretty sweet! Then again, maybe I heard the best portion.

I still wouldn't buy this personally, but my original argument still stands. And I disagree with Gareth's "and they just put out a bunch of stuff their target audience presumably already has" comment, because there probably are a LOT of recent Lips fans that don't know most of this stuff, I'd gather.

― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

i bought the flaming lips one the week after it came out here, i really quite like it. and donut is spot on, i am a flaming lips fan but i only had about 4 of the tracks on there already. i wouldn't have bought it if i did already have them - what would be the point? on the back of it i will probably get some chris bell and faust stuff, which i had not heard a lot of before. also i repurchased sebadoh's harmacy (which i actually used to have and lost) because of it too.

― gem (trisk), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

The Flaming Lips one is still better than the Four Tet one, no point praising him for a tracklist if the music is even more boring than the Flaming Lips. And that's saying something. Four Tet are so dull.

I hadn't heard that Saudade tune and it's really good, there is nothing even remotely compelling on the Four Tet album, in fact his idea of something interesting is a JIMI HENDRIX cover. desperate.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

honestly I often think Four Tet and co are the height of irrelevence, blandness and boredom in music, beyond anything, beyond fucking Celine Dion in their polite success.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

i was afraid you were mellowing out.

― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

the four tet one has that great terry riley track though, but, overall it is a bit polite, definitely

then again, this "late night tales", is not a great name for a compilation, its halfway to calling it 'smokers delight'. and, for that matter, "after hours grooving", or "late night grooving" or whatever, sounds fucking dull. "7am chopping out lines, ronan off licence shame", now, that sounds better, right?

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

i'm kind of tempted to agree with ronan re:four tet, though i enjoyed "rounds" when it came out.

i think "polite" is a good word to describe it. i don't want idm to sound polite.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

x-post. i wouldn't have felt the need to highlight the word "polite" if i'd noticed that gareth already had. but i think we can all agree that four tet sound "polite".

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

completely. it's like soft rock minus lyrics sometimes, and with way more credibility simply for the fact they haven't dared to fail at writing lyrics!

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

at it's worst, it's like someone said "let's make a lemon jelly-astral weeks hybrid - that hasn't been done before! but let's be sure to keep it tasteful and, yes, polite. we wouldn't want to cause any harm or offence"

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm gonna do one of these and call it 'Night Moves (The Shadow's Surrender)'

― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

how about..."late night tales"...?

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Late Night Tales replaced Another Late Night With as the series title. The Zero 7 one was better than you might expect. But then I would say that.

― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

if someone wrote a negative review of it, the headline could be "late night fails". it's just a gift to rock hacks everywhere.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

it also bugs me the way they just ripped off the DJ Kicks idea of getting the artist to do a cover and then on one of the comps had "here's a novel idea we came up with, have an artist do a cover version......"

etc etc

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

DJ Kicks didn't always feature that aspect did they?

― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Not always but I think for some time now.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

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