Soulful Folk / Folky Soul

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looking for late 60s, early-mid 70s stuff. nice arrangements, light, but funky drums, basically accoustic, but electric stuff is definitely alright. it seems that the divide between soulful folk and folky soul is a color line, but whatever.

folky soul:
shuggie otis
eugene mcdaniels
gil scott heron
john lucien
rotary connection

soulful folk:
V/A: "Folk is not a four letter word" *
Tim Buckley
John Martyn
Robbie Basho
Rodriguez

* Track listing:
1. Carol Batton - Beeing (Intro)
2. Kathy Smith - It's Taking So Long
3. Sarofeen & Smoke - It's Love
4. Brigitte Fontaine - Brigitte
5. Linda Perhacs - Hey, Who Really Cares?
6. Breakout - Usta Me Ogrzej (Warm Up My Lips)
7. Musica Dispersa - Cefalea
8. Poppy Family - Shadows On My Wall
9. Wendy & Bonnie - By The Sea
10. Bonnie Koloc - My Aunt Edna
11. Heaven & Earth - Jenny
12. Erica Pomerance - You Used To Think
13. Audience - Man On Box
14. The Roundtable - Scarborough Fair
15. Sidan - Gobiath
16. Sidan - Ar Goll

― [tb] j (jaxon), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

in the latter category, mark fry's "mandolin man."

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

folky soul: bill withers for sure; maybe swamp dogg?

― xhuxk, Friday, 22 April 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, bill withers fer shure. all the swamp dogg i've heard has been just straight southern soul/blues (not that i don't LOVE it)

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

Surely Richie Havens fits in there somewhere?

― I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

you got a problem with laura nyro or something? huh, do ya, do ya?

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at but I think Sandy Bull - Inventions might fit the bill. Particularly the track "Blend II" with Billy Higgins on drums.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

and dude, wait until you hear eric mercury, you will flip.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

i LOVE sandy bull, but i guess i'm getting at a vocal thing. the way basho sings is pure soul.

also I LOVE laura nyro, so maybe the problem lies within yourself, good sir

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

also, is there a possibility that there are multiple spellings for Vashti Bunyan's name?

did this reporter just hear wrong? "Yashti Bunyen"?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/content/articles/2005/02/02/andy_votel_folk_interview_feature.shtml

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

well, dood, ya didn't mention laura in yer first post and she is the epitome of soulfolk. kinda. just wondering. for some reason this thread makes me wanna go dig out some roberta flack and/or some donny hathaway.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

i LOVE sandy bull, but i guess i'm getting at a vocal thing.

Ah, I see. I was going off of this: "light, but funky drums, basically accoustic". Colette Magny is the ultimate Soulful Folk for me.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

damon "poor poor genie"

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

soulful folk: phoebe snow

does almost-countryish stuff like "little green apples" by oc smith count??

― xhuxk, Friday, 22 April 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

annette peacock "pony"
christine harwood generally

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 22 April 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

there were a lot of black guys in cowboy hats making mediocre havens/withers orchestrated folk-pop, that's all i know. buyer beware.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 April 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

oh duh, also Terry Callier, who i'm absolutely in love with right now!

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 22 April 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

UGH!

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 April 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I'll listen to ANYTHING, and i can't stand that album.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 April 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

also search: Joan Armatrading. No, really.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 April 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

Not 60s/70s, but Ted Hawkins.

― Burr (Burr), Saturday, 23 April 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

Tim Hardin I&II
Townes Van Zandt - esp. The Late Great...

a bit later than '60s-'70s, but Jackie Leven is yr man. S: "Poortoun," "The Sexual Loneliness of Jesus Christ," anything, really.

― echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Saturday, 23 April 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

wait, scott, which album can't you stand? you hate terry callier? are you mad? his 3 cadet albums are soooooo fucking beautiful. pretty much the reason i started this thread.

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 23 April 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

the one with the naked babe on the cover. i'm pretty sure i can't stand it. oh yeah, 60's/early-70's, scratch joan armatrading.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)

but, you know, i can't like everything! i like too much as it is.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

SCOTT, YOU'RE CRAZY!! "What Color is Love" is the one you're talking about. it actually took me a long time to get into it, and i actually listen to the other two cadet albums more ("Occasional Rain" and "I Just Can't Help Myself") mainly because i have those on cd/mp3

i'll make a list of some of his songs that are straight, heartbreakingly amazing. maybe i'll send you something?

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 23 April 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

Wendy & Bonnie - By The Sea

I'd probably go forI Realized You or What's Really Happening ... the latter being sort of 'folky Northern Soul', I suppose.

― Jez (Jez), Monday, 25 April 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

PAUL MOTHERFUCKING PENA, BITCHES

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 25 April 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

would the nina simone/odetta axis work here?

― my friend flicka (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 25 April 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

joel, i saw that documentary on Pena and him being a blind tuvan throat singer (Ghengis Blues), but i didn't realize he's been around for so long. have you heard his 70s recordings? what are they like?

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 25 April 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

he wrote "jet airliner"!

― my friend flicka (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 25 April 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

i have the first pena lp, it's awesome. should pull that one out to listen to soon.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 25 April 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)

i am listening to it now, it's great. much better than anything canned heat did, imo.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 25 April 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

Two excellent recent-ish folky soul compilations: Make Music and As We Travel.

I'd also add a track by Linda Lewis called "Old Smokey", if you can find it.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 25 April 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

Parliament - The Silent Boatman (acoustic guitars, harps and... bagpipes!)

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

Donna Summer (the WFMU dj) did a "folk-funk" edition of Advanced D&D a couple of weeks ago:
http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/14745

― Chris L, Monday, 25 April 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

where is the love for bonnie bramlett?

― my friend flicka (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

Staple Singers - For What It's Worth, etc.
Isley Brothers
Ellen McIlwaine
The Byrds - 5D, Capt. Soul, maybe even What's Happening????
Stevie - Blowin In The Wind
Townes Van Zandt - Where I Lead Me
Galt McDermott - The Hair ST & other shit
Donovan - pretty much everything after the initial troubadour period
lots of Curtis & late Impressions stuff
Chambers Bros.
Simon & Garfunkle and lots of Tom Wilson produced stuff, like that wicked Dion record

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

http://www.vinyl.com/covers/LPCOLU9773.gif

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

That Paul Pena album is great! But...isn't it his only album? And it wasn't even actually widely released until very recently?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

There are two Paul Pena albums. The first was self-titled. The second, recorded in '73, didn't get released until 2000. It's called "New Train." They're both good.

― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Monday, 25 April 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

man, just listened to Bert Jansch's "Poison" and it's exactly the type of thing i'm looking for.

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

Charles Bevel, who had a really good album on A&M in 1973. Contains his minor regional hit single, "Sally B. White."

― Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Thursday, 9 November 2006 03:40 (eighteen years ago)

On the soulful folk tip, I'd go with Fred Neil. And the just-reissued 2nd album by Karen Dalton might work, especially "Katie Cruel." And the self-titled Bobby Charles LP on Bearsville, man that thing is awesome.

― yetimike (McGonigal), Thursday, 9 November 2006 10:18 (eighteen years ago)

Search:

Roberta Flack's debut album "First Take".
"Nina Simone live at Carnegie Hall" (1962), reissued as a double CD.

Both are definitely folky soul, and they're among my favourite albums ever.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 November 2006 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

Can't think of the title, but recently read an article on perfectsoundforever.com that might give you some leads. Put in Fred Neil as your Exact Phrase and you'll see it (mentions Len Chandler, and several others I haven't heard). Dave Van Ronk's No Dirty Names, Jim Kweskin & The Jug Band's Acoustic Swing & Jug , programmed by Tom Vickers, who worked for George Clinton, didn't he? Man can pick the tracks. If you don't mind early 70s, Bonnie Raitt's Give It Up is one of the best albums of the 70s, and Takin' My Time is almost as good (haven't heard the one Toussaint produced, but I'm sure it's worth checking, duh). Didn't Paul Pena do a third album, just before he died? Always wondered about Hedge & Donna, Bunky & Jake, although I think Jake was the Jake of Jake & The Family Jewels, of The Big Moose Calls His Baby Sweet Lorraine fame (a little thin, but worth a buck or less). Hey, what about Janis Joplin? On the Janis box, there's the orig solo acoustic "Me And Bobby McGee," followed immediately by the solo acoustic "Mercedes Benz" we know. And she does other stuff( i should get her later Box Of Pearls). And young Bobby D.'s often very soulful on the virtually complete Basement Tapes, A Tree With Roots. Can't particulary think of any Donovan I'd call soulful, vocalwise, was more about the writing and arrangements (pretty, catchy, sometimes jazzy or rockin', but not soulful, intensity-wise)I've heard Dion be soulful and folkie on solo radio shots, in the last decade or so, but never heard those albums like Bronx Blues, when he started over in the 60s coffee shops. Garland Jeffrys' first (s/t) sounds like I'd hope Bronx Blues sounds, like maybe he's still wearing his sharkskin suitpant, even with the bluejean jacket.

― don (dow), Friday, 10 November 2006 05:30 (eighteen years ago)

tim hardin should be on here if he isn't. god i love that man.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 10 November 2006 06:12 (eighteen years ago)

If we're talking about Fred Neil, we should mention Vince Martin, his early partner. His solo album "If the Jasmine..." was reissued by Rev-Ola a while ago & is very much in the same vein as Neil, Buckley etc.

Also see the Finders Keepers website - they're digging up loads of stuff like this at the moment.

― bham (bham), Friday, 10 November 2006 08:38 (eighteen years ago)

having been listening to tear down the walls alot lately i was wondering if vince martin had done anything else. cool.

where should i start with hardin, scott?

this thread is totally where my head is at this fall.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 10 November 2006 10:06 (eighteen years ago)

try *suite for susan moore and damion - we are-one. one, all in one* WHICH HAS A RATHER UNWIELDY TITLE, but i think it's his masterpiece. and it's probably up your alley. it looks like this:

http://www.muzicisifaze.com/upload/albums/276_large.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 10 November 2006 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

but i love all his more trad blues/folk on verve too. its his voice that brings the soul.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 10 November 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

i'm listening to this record RIGHT NOW and i think its the only album i own that features the cissy houston singers AND peter frampton on lead guitar. i dig it a bunch. pretty much a forgotten album:

http://www.mathie.demon.co.uk/Album%20covers/TH/ph.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 10 November 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

See if you can find yourself some 1970s B J Ward (NB this isn't easy, I've never managed to lay my hands on any).

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 10 November 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

for tim hardin, i followed Skot's advice a while ago and picked up "Suite for susan moore and damion". it's super mellow, minimal and amazing. the best part is on cd it comes with another of his albums "Bird on a Wire" which is a bit funkier than susan moore, but just as good.

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 November 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

Also see the Finders Keepers website

that's actually what i was into when i started this thread. i've since picked up the Chris Harwood and it's really nice. folk with funky drums and some rhodes. amazing cover of CSNY Wooden Ships

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 November 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

yah, that hardin suite/bird twofer is good value for your cd money.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 10 November 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

jaxon, how are the harwood bonus tracks? i got the jacked-up, recorded from cassette akarma version not knowing a legit version would come out six months later...

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Saturday, 11 November 2006 02:28 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks to this thread, I think I need a soul in my funk, and a soul in my folk and above all, a folk in my soul.

― A Chocolate Ball of Sweet Confectionary Fire (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 November 2006 08:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg800/g808/g80827jintm.jpg

quite good, the lyrics are all over the place (black suffrage, hippie disillusionment, psych wordplay, grubby velvet-ish short stories) on top of about 1/3 blues-rock arrangements, 1/3 straight folk arrangements, and 1/3 psych-soul. My favorite is the "This is My Time", has his best(and most conventionally "soulful", incidentally) vocal performance against a droning folk riff. It strikes me that it wouldn't sound out of place on Jim O'Rourke's Bad Timing, apropos of nothing.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 11 November 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

jaxon, did you ever buy a copy of:

http://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/e/r/ericmercury371442.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 11 November 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

i really dig it and it can still be found cheap. and *funky sounds nurtured in the fertile soil of memphis that smell of rock* is still one of my all-time fave album titles.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 11 November 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

You migh like the album 'Clouds' by Bobby Caldwell. Athough a lot of the music recomended above has a haunting quality. Bobby Caldwell fits more with Shuggie Otis. A bit more smooth, but still soulful.

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Saturday, 11 November 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

> and dude, wait until you hear eric mercury, you will flip.

Eric Mercury - long way down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjUA_G8-Cws

― meisenfek, Thursday, 20 October 2011 12:06 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.spencerbohren.com/bio/

Spencer Bohren. Some nice stuff on Youtube.

This ocassional New Orleans resident does not exactly fit here: bluesy lap-steel player, w/ his Wyoming-born discovers country blues vocals, but was not sure where else to place him. His latest cd, Tempered Steel, is not on Spotify but A. Fensterstock of the Times-Picayune in N'awlins says & tweets its pretty good.

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 14:42 (twelve years ago)

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