― jj, Monday, 25 April 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)
Essential Hardcore, if you asked me...
Damaged by Black FlagGroup Sex by the Circle JerksMinor Threat by Minor ThreatMillions of Dead Cops by MDCThe Record by FEARLet Them Eat Jellybeans - Alt. Tentacles compilation
..once again, and loads more (like DOA, Bad Brains, Kraut, Agnostic Front, etc. etc.)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)
both 1988 I think.
― everything, Monday, 25 April 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)
Metallica, Master of PuppetsMegadeth, Rust in PeaceSlayer, Seasons in the Abyss (or Reign in Blood if you insist)Forbidden, Twisted Into Form
Also Sepultura, Cynic, Iced Earth, etc. for later stuff. I should dig up some of these cds.
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)
― Arpad Kovacs, Monday, 25 April 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)
So, my favorites that I haven't seen mentioned (sadly, as these are probably my favorites in the genre)Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion (much more epic than is common for the genre)Forced Entry - (this sort of takes the bay area mosh thing and makes it a bit "proggier", I guess. It's cool though!)Coroner - No More Color (or anything by them, really)Voivod - Killing Technology (ditto, though only the pre-Nothingface stuff is thrashy)Watchtower - Control & Resistance (probably also the debut, which I have not heard)Sepultura - Beneath The RemainsAtheist - Unquestionable Presence (this one veers towards death metal)Annihilator - Alice in Hell Dark Angel - Darkness Descends and Time Does Not Heal (the former is sorta raw, while the latter has these 8 minute riff-fests - there was supposedly a sticker on the cover stating something like "this album has 246 riffs!" when it first came out)Jordan mentioned Cynic, I always thought of them as death metal, but "Focus" is by far one of the best metal albums around (despite the cheesy new ageisms)
Oh yeah, can't forget the teutonic thrash trio (generally pretty simplistic, fun stuff):Sodom - Agent Orange (or Obsessed By Cruelty if you'd like something darker, for me it's a more enjoyable record)Destruction - Infernal Overkill (preferably with Sentence To Death as bonus tracks)Kreator - First four or five albums, if you don't want it too dirty and sloppy, you might want to go straight for "Extreme Aggression" and "Coma of Souls")
― Øystein (Øystein), Monday, 25 April 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)
― Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Monday, 25 April 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)
anyways, for thrash metal oystein's got a good list. i'd add in:exodus - bonded by bloodpossessed - seven churchesslaughter (can) - surrender or die and strappadorazor - violent restitution
if we're talking HC thrash:the middle class - out of vogueydi - out for blood (recent discography cd, fucking great)septic death - attention (or any of its various permutations)s.o.b. - any early (pre-metal) stuff
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)
Loving how Alex In NYC just decided to not answer the question AT ALL and then just talk about something completely different in the first response
― \o_o/.... ,o_o,.... o_oC.... /o_o\ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:52 (fourteen years ago)
"Hey all, I'm looking for some great gangsta rap albums"
"Well there's rap and there's hip-hop... I like Sage Francis and..."
I've been listening to a lot of 80s thrash lately. Some things on my playlist, beyond the usual Big Four selections:
Stormtroopers of Death - Speak English or DieExodus - Fabulous DisasterPowermad - Absolute PowerTestament - The LegacySepultura - Chaos AD & AriseKreator - Terrible CertaintyNuclear Assault - Handle w/ CareRigor Mortis - s/tForbidden - Forbidden EvilLudichrist - Power TripSacred Reich - Ignorance
After dabbling in any number of metal subgenres, it is the mid-80s-early-90s thrash stuff that I always come back to most frequently. Surely a key factor in this is the fact that it is one of the musical forms I first fell in love with as a kid. Beyond that, though, I think it contains just the right balance of NWOBHM muscle, rhythm & theatrics & punk/hardcore speed and intensity. Plus, I'm just kind of a sucker for chugga-chugga muted rhythm guitar acrobatics.
― Grotjahn in the Moma (Pillbox), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 01:42 (fourteen years ago)
theres the obvious- Metallica- Bastard of Muppets, and Slayer-Reign in Blood.. as crazy as it sounds I think we can all agree on that...
then...
Exodus-Bonded by BloodTestament- 1st two Legacy and New OrderSlayer- Hell Awaits and South of HeavenKreator-Terrible CertaintyMegadeth-Killing is my Buisness...Vio-lence-Enternal NightmareSepultura-Beneath the Remains and Arise
― SeanWayne, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)
is anthrax the most overrated "legendary" band in metal?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
or maybe just the most uncool "legendary" band in metal.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 17:56 (fourteen years ago)
certainly seem to be one of the biggest wankers in legendary bands in metal, and they have some great competition
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)
also why is whiney complaining about a 6 year old post?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)
Totally.... don't get me wrong they got some good stuff, but basically the Among the Living album and maybe fist full of metal could be have essential potential, but they were goofy.. joking around and being silly all the time. Scott Ian-moster riffer, and master, Charlie Bonante one of the best drummers in metasl period, but its those few highlights of thier career and some good sales that put them in the big 4. Overall importants?, maybe not so much.. lol
― SeanWayne, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)
Some people in the earrrrly 80s called hardcore "thrash", which is where ainyc was coming from even though it would have been ridiculous for someone to refer to hardcore as thrash as such in 2005.
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
xp Loving how Alex In NYC just decided to not answer the question AT ALL and then just talk about something completely different
Thing is, iirc, hardcore was called thrash before thrash-metal was called thrash. Which is maybe what he was getting at in that post, not that he actually said it.
I never got the appeal of Anthrax at all. When they didn't completely bore me, they seemed like a joke band (and not a very funny one, either.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:04 (fourteen years ago)
So whiney's comparison would have been a little offbase. It would be morelike if someone would be all like
What are the essential Tgay house albums?
and alex was like
Well, there's gay and there's happy....
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)
Anthrax had some choice fucking moments, when they would drop the funny stuff. It also helps to not think about
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/68/JamsShorts.jpg/220px-JamsShorts.jpg
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
only anthrax i have any need for is sound of white noise
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)
cuz they finally had good songs and a great singer
Persistence of Time, for example is fairly humorless and mostly awesome.
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
Only Anthrax I have any need for is the one by the Gang Of Four.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
yeah those shorts were 'tarded...
― SeanWayne, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
Don't want to kick off any clusterfucking but reading MRR in the early 00s "thrash" was pretty much standard in those circles for precisely Minor Threat/Negative Approach-inspired kind of business--to distinguish mostly from youth crew and the million other distinct usages for "hardcore" punk. (Had a roommate with a "THRASH" license plate but he didn't know anything about metal--was a Ebullition/Crudos kind of guy.) Obviously, more people in the world are going to use "thrash" for metal...but the punk responses upthread are perfectly good for the current in-group punk definition.
― bentelec, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:17 (fourteen years ago)
But you guys are right, the term thrash was trown around in reference to hardcore. I'm sure things didn't help when the crossover bands started happening.. Especially D.R.I. and Suicidal.. oh, and S.O.D.!!-shit, crossover before there was a term fo it!
― SeanWayne, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah but at this point isn't it when your little brother is like "I like emo" and you start taling about Rites Of Spring and he's all like o_O
― livin' la vida Moka! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
^
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
i find its everyones duty to tell these kids about rites of spring & embrace et al
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
Demolition Hammer - Tortured ExistenceOnslaught - The ForceAgent Steel - Skeptics ApocalypseNuclear Assault - Game Over
― Neanderthal, Friday, 3 June 2016 00:35 (nine years ago)
80s thrash I love:
Sadus - IllusionsMorbid Saint - Spectrum of DeathSepultura - Bestial Devastation, Morbid Visions, SchizophreniaSodom - Under the Sign of Evil, Obsessed by Cruelty, Persecution ManiaKreator - Pleasure to KillRazor - Violent RestitutionSacrifice - Forward to Termination
...and a lot of other metal that draws from thrash (ie death-thrash and black/thrash), or is consciously looking back to its glory days
― Dominique, Friday, 3 June 2016 00:58 (nine years ago)
Artillery's "By Inheritance" is really a p great album isn't it?
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 27 November 2016 15:20 (nine years ago)