'70s PSYCH

d.r. hooker's pretty cool jesus-rock, gets soft at times. the reviews at acid archives are pretty much on point.

i hasten to point out - i haven't heard the trizo 50 album, just the bonus tracks from the phantasia cd. but those didn't impress me at all.

man, i held a $4 copy of that michaelangelo album in my hands once and passed it up. stupid!

That comp is where I've heard Trizo 50, too; their track on that is so good. Also curious about the Victoria album.

What about English stuff: Oliver? Dark?

dark's round the edges (and the alternates/outtakes artefacts from the black museum) is solid, sort of 'uk heavy prog' stuff. i can't really think of anything to compare it to except T2, necromandus, etc. who are probably more obscure than dark...

What about the SCREAMIN-MEE-MEE's?? or the Twinkeez. Basically all the 70s basement stuff kinda forms a nice bridge between the classic psych era and punk and its offshoots.

oh, and forced exposure has:

1971 heavy private press free blues/psych from the left coast cortical geo zone of the US underground chain spearheaded by Don Campau and essentially the Californian amalgam of the Gate 5 as ESP disk punk/jazz 3rd eye. A higher key farrago of hypercosmic extended runs that oscillate between the tubular philosophy of the Sun City Girls sound/art and the aloneness of stoned blues concréte. A refreshing lost artifact of pure American fizz resurrected from the iconoclasm void and perfectly reissued in a joint effort from De Stijl and Child Of Microtones. An essential LP for anyone concerned with the paramount energy fields of all the above ground sound subterrains.

which is, you know, pretty standard "JUST BUY THIS, SUCKER!" copy.

"First official release by the legendary 1978 private recorded space rock album.of Marcus. Intense, passionate and poetic songwriting -- sometimes desperate, sometimes mystical but always deep in instrumentation and interpretation. It has the sixties acid folk blend -- with electrified heavy guitars and various space effects. Contains a very informative bio, couple of photos, bonustracks and extra CD-ROM with a 25 minute live performance video (great quality)."

And I really like the Homestead and Wolfe album. Super seventies folk rock with great female vocals and recorded at Gold Star with Wrecking Crew players.

Stone Harbour thirded, was in love with that record for a solid two weeks when i first heard it

Oliver = overrated, as are Dark, though several very good friends of mine would probably stop talking to me if I told them that.

Anyway, it's all about Vulcan, people. Vulcan!

i've been hearing oliver is "overrated" for years. like more than i've heard anyone praise it, so i'd say it's underrated.

roger doger, did you ever get that valhalla/adam blessing/glass harp tape i sent you???? i hope you did. i sent it a while ago. i need to find a cheap copy of the third glass harp album. they go for too much on ebay. not that they are really psych, just saying...

just to open up the discussion, i've been enjoying these: Autumn People, Brigg, Andromeda, The Complex, Freedom's Children, Fraction, Far Out, Maze, The Next Morning, Patto, Shin Jung Hyun & Jup Chuns.

why is Asylum Choir I so maligned? who cares if it's dilettantish. good songs!

FRACTION. YES. for some reason that really rubbed me the wrong way when i first heard the rockadelic reissue (same with dragonwyck) but that's a heavy-ass album.

adding brazda bros and space opera to my list.

the jeebus thing that suffuses the lyrics of Moon Blood can be a turnoff. but what would xian psychmetal be without some fervent christlove. and you've got some crazyass guitar excess to make up for it. that's just such a great album. america should be proud.

yes, you'd love both Space Opera - which is like the Notorious Byrd Brothers with a splash of ... Heldon? - and that Brazdas LP, which is like AOR duo-folk colored with twice removed European weirdness that makes it all that much more deliciously folked up.

Paêbirú just fucking rules. that's the real deal.

Awesome, some a bit too mellow for me, but most of it pretty righteous. Who IS Paul Keagy and WHY is he God?

how's the xtian stuff??

Far Out, as per echoinggroove -- yeah, that rocks!! They were the same guys as um, somebody, right? Love Live Life + 1, or something like that? Anyway, nice drifty album. I love that early 70s Japanese stuff so much. Anybody else a big Cosmos Factory fan???

Not saying that the Bro was trying to emulate that stuff -- he may not have ever even heard it -- just saying that they both tapped into the same wiggy vein.

well, look at the cover of that album. read the old description in fuzz acid and flowers. it's a good record, it was just totally not what i was expecting when i bought it (yes, the first of my youthful illusions shattered!).

Far Out, as per echoinggroove -- yeah, that rocks!! They were the same guys as um, somebody, right?

aren't they the far east family band, more or less?

love live life + 1 is the shit! wish there was more in the same vein.

and virgin insanity illusions of the maintenance man just got reissued on de stijl! nice stuff, kinda like new creation but not as rabidly christian... more like a ray of sunshine shining into a musty basement.

heh, ellison. his fault i bought the awesome creme soda cd on amazon. or tried to a couple of times and finally managed to get a copy from the last place that had a copy for a reasonable price.

SO, anyone else heard the juicy groove first taste album from '78? it's a couple of ex-beefheart guys, mars bonfire the son of the drummer from spirit, i think, and some singer who is alright and there are some sky saxon connections. for all of the "oh shit, has-beens recording in 1978 with a terrible band name" fears i had it's pretty good. it probably helps that i always dug mars bonfire's ridiculous songs. more or less the same band put out an album as rainbow red oxidizer in 1980, which is a little bit iggy pop, a little bit punker.

scott, you've heard these dudes, right?

mars bonfire COMMA the son of the drummer from spirit

i've never heard it.

hey, do i need that marconi notaro reissue on time-lag. the satwa-related one. store still has the vinyl sitting around, and i could probably get it in trade.

i want this guy's stuff, but i don't have any money:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZkentik1

specifically: karen beth, cheryl dilcher, poet & the one man band, sigmund snopek, yancy derringer, atlantis. um, and more.

i really want the snopek album and i've probably passed it up on ebay a dozen times when it was much cheaper. oh well. some day i will be dead and won't have to worry about these things.

okay, this is how i roll. i just bought the juicy groove picture disc for ten bucks on ebay. THAT i can afford. will let you know how i like it.

"heh, ellison. his fault i bought the awesome creme soda cd on amazon. or tried to a couple of times and finally managed to get a copy from the last place that had a copy for a reasonable price"

I totally love that album, its full of great songs - need more of that kind of stuff!

i've never heard any of this guy's stuff:

http://popsike.com/pix/20080506/280224742512.jpg

that guy on ebay up above there is selling a copy. wonder what it will go for.

(i should search the "blogs" just to hear it)

I might still have a copy of the Karen Beth album that guy sold. I don't recall it being very good. The first track has blaring horns and i wuz very turned off. I do like her record "Harvest" though. If I didn't trade the first one I will trade it to you for something or sell it cheap cheap.

okay, this is how i roll. i just bought the juicy groove picture disc for ten bucks on ebay. THAT i can afford. will let you know how i like it.

man, i KNEW i should've checked ebay before posting about that.

hey, do i need that marconi notaro reissue on time-lag. the satwa-related one. store still has the vinyl sitting around, and i could probably get it in trade.

if you can get it in trade, i'd go for it. i don't remember it being great but it was pretty trippy.

i like the marconi notaro record. is good. a couple rockers, some mellow groovin. definitely v trippy, a lot of wah.

snopek album went for 80 bucks. i definitely remember when it was selling for, like, 20. oh well.

finally listening to that elusive Brazda Brothers album right now. so good!

also, someone can tell me something about a band called Beat of the Earth?

"If you're looking for psychedelic music, do not buy this album unless you're looking for psychedelic music"

beat of the earth were a hippie communal type thing. first one came out in 1967 originally, just kinda sprawling acid jams but not super-folky or as hippie as you might expect? i don't know, i'm tired. but i highly recommend the 1970 album by the electronic hole, which was the same guy solo (i think) with more folk and a pretty awesome distorto zappa cover ("trouble every day" but it isn't listed as such). also relatively clean rivers are good if you like subverted rural rock, same dude again.

thanks! these descriptions sound quite promising!

endless thanks to Tim Ellison and his article on Blastitude.
the Stone Harbour reissue is just what the doctor ordered.

I need psychedelic organ and electric piano recommendations and lots of them. Listened to McLaughlin's Devotion over and over on the road this week and want more of the stuff Larry Young was doing on that record. Help!

Tony Williams Lifetime - Emergency! (Williams, McLaughlin & Young)

ah yeah, I have that one and Turn It Over -- should have mentioned that upfront.

Also some Mahavishnu Orchestra stuff might work, although it's mostly not as heavy and dark as Devotion. For psychedelic electric piano you can't really do much worse than picking up every Herbie Hancock record between 70 & 75. There's a lot of English and German psychedelic jazzy hard rock from the '70s that might fit in too, but I don't know if you want to go there.

Give me names!

The English and German stuff, I mean.

Some jazzy krautrock bands are Gila and Exmagma, some of them have kind of annoying singing which may be a deal breaker, but, Birth Control, Alrune Rod, Missus Beastly, Cornucopia, Cosmos Factory, or Embryo. Xhol Caravan kind of fits but doesn't feature much organ.

Then there are dudes like Graham Bond, Brian Auger that have some good moments, although they can get a bit too bluesy at times and again, the singing might be off-putting. None of this stuff is remotely as great as Devotion.

There are a ton of Vertigo records bands that might fit. Let me think.

Maybe Alan Bown or Bodkin and yeah Brian Auger's Oblivion Express.

Of course a lot of the Soft Machine stuff has great organ. Spaced, Noisette, Virtually, and other live albums are worth checking out.

Brainticket has some scorching organ jams.
"Black Sand" from Cottonwood Hill is notable.

Thanks for the recs!

Holy shiiiiit, Exmagma is exactly what I was looking for.

you gotta love this picture of them too

http://www.israbox.com/uploads/posts/2009-04/1241017326_1240934350_front.jpg

As far as Larry Young goes, do you have this one?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ybqVJIxuHiU/SF53MmIayBI/AAAAAAAAAE0/ba7YbmCPsfc/s400/LarryYoung_LawrenceOfNewark.jpg

w/ James Blood Ulmer on gtr...

if you're looking for psychedelic Larry Young grab Lawrence Of Newark as fast as possible. It got reissued about 5 years ago. Also was apparently the big influence on the first Grinderman lp according to interviews Cave did around the time that was released.
Awesome on its own anyway. Balletic, also sounds flood my head with images of Young flying his keyboard around like a flying saucer. Hope that's good enough reason to check it out.
EDIT I was just trying to post this and found somebody brought the lp up at the same time I was trying to

Would also recommend the original Love Cry Want lp if you can still get it. Heavily experimental band who used prototype electronic instrumentation. Larry Young again on keyboards but I think the rest of the band were well known individually. a recent Wire had a review of a new lp by a revived group obviously missing Young who died in the early 80s. Was that pneumonia took him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpBUbWCq5Fc

Love the organ on this.

Does Rocket From The Tombs count as psych? Has some great expansive moments in there anyway.
Also Simply Saucer. Though they've probably already been mentioned.
Hawkwind,
Roxy Music circa For Your Pleasure,
Eno & The Winkies live in Derby '74,
Albion Country Band have a pretty kosmische/luminous edge on Battle Of The Field,
-Steeleye Span in Ashley Hutchings era. Lark In The Morning is a pretty essential purchase.
-Kevin Ayers especially on Shooting At The Moon where some solos are quite trepanning.
-Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come especially Galactic Zoo Dossier. Do wish more live footage both audio & video would appear.
-from the little live material I've heard Wishbone Ash could get quite ballroomy mid jam. Not sure if that translates to the studio at all, Not a big fan of the singer's voice anyway. But the Phoenix on the Live in Memphis e.p. is really pretty trippy.

I'm sure there are others that are on the tip of my tongue.

-birth control
-uriah heep
-burnin' red ivanhoe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8dHolTmr70