Phil Manzera.. Outside Roxy

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Continuing with our recent Roxy Music threads. What's good outside Roxy Music involving Phil Manzera?

― ZionTrain, Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

DIAMONDHEAD.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

btw: it's MANZANERA. ok?

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Manzanara put out a new album last year? Anybody heard it?

― Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Manzera is Manzanera's hair metal alter ego.

Kinda like Eddie Vedder's hair metal alter ego Eddie Vedera

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

My best friend, who makes fun of my Roxy fixaton and loves Pink Floyd, always reminds me that Manzanera played on and cowrote "One Slip" on "A Momentary Lapse..."

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Actually he cowrote two songs on that album, I thought...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

"One Slip" is great. One of the rare bright spots on that album.

― ZionTrain, Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Shhhhh, Ned!!!

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

Ditto on Diamond Head. And I thought I read once that the guitar on "Baby's On Fire" was Manzanera rather than Fripp, as everybody seems to believe. Am I wrong?

― nickn (nickn), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

i think fripp does the solo.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd100/d125/d12568904go.jpg

completely necessary

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Eno sings those two great songs on "Diamond Head," one of which was covered by Yung Wu, that Feelies side-project. Supposedly, all of Roxy - including Eno - guest on the last Manzanera album. I'm also a fan of the Quiet Sun disc.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd000/d098/d0983961of8.jpg

is this the one with him in the center of like fifty thousand keyboards on the back cover? i've picked this record up so many times and listened to it in the store and want to buy it, but i want it for less than 5$

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

In 1989 he produced an album of instrumental Christmas music, using British street musicians, that's really good. Really.

― Burr (Burr), Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

Diamond Head is very very good

801 Live, too

― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 28 April 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

the version of "miss shapiro" absolutely slays, as does the cover of "tomorrow never knows"

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 28 April 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

Search out Primitive Guitars and the Quiet Sun album too.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

Cutty OTM about the Beatles cover. 801 and (really) Los Lobos are the only band's I've heard do "Tomorrow Never Knows" justice.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

801 Live thirded. The cover of "Tomorrow Never Knows" gives goosebumps. I also liked an 801 studio album he had called Listen Now (or Now Listen) back in the late 70s but I can't remember much else about it. I think one of the Finn bros was the singer.

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

Wetton & Manzanera = DESTROY DESTROY DESTROY

― Joe (Joe), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

eleven months pass...

Man, I was SO over prog until I kept running across these threads, reminding me of great stuff I'd forgotten, like the 801 album.

― someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Monday, 10 April 2006 01:53 (twenty years ago)

Don't forget the number of collaborations that Mr. Manzanera has undertaken with various South American musicians, thus honoring his maternal Colombian ancestry. Also, does anyone know if Manzanera had anything to do with the group Random Hold? I've noticed that there's a sizeable Random Hold website on the manzanera.com site (i.e. his official URL) and the site is linked to from the main Manzanera home page. I'm actually asking this because David Ferguson from the group Random Hold is responsible for one of my very favorite songs of the '80s, Nine Ways To Win's "Close To You".

― See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 10 April 2006 03:28 (twenty years ago)

Random Hold was a couple of the 801 guys - Simon Ainley, Bill McCormick, and David Rhodes (who would later go on to join Peter Gabriel's band). I recall that Peter Hamill produced at least one of their albums, but Manzanera was probably involved too.

― The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Monday, 10 April 2006 04:32 (twenty years ago)

Will anyone defend the John Wetton album?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 April 2006 12:17 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...

This is not about solo Manzanera, but rather, how do you rate him as a guitarist? I asked this recently about George Harrison. Manzanera seems perfectly good, but did he have any really unique contributions to guitardom? Note I did not create a new thread for this as I have been cowed by the "lock thread" police!

― douglas eklund (skolle), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

SEA BREEZES

― Scourage (Haberdager), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

In the fadeout of "Third Uncle" he sounds like a DJ scratching. If he'd never picked up a guitar again after that, I'd count that as a unique contribution. An amazing sound.

― LC (Damian), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

Excellent, excellent! Thanks for the tips, will listen again

― douglas eklund (skolle), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

He's the single most under=valued guitar player in the history of ever.

― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

As a creator of sonic landscapes he has no peer.

Didn't he co-produce the new David Gilmour?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. he co-produced the Gilmour.

There are sounds on the first few Roxy albums - esp. "Stranded" - where I have no idea what he's doing or how it's being done. Like on "Amazona," for instance. There's a moment in there, after the double-tempo break, where the guitar sort of explodes into amorphous flanged fuzz.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

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