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what the fuck were these people about? was it postpunk?

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

I had the 12" of Sugar Daddy! It was pretty good! Not postpunk, though.

― X-PAT (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

and what was weatherall on about in those sleevenotes eh? like dungeons and dragons in punk pirate gear it was.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

i want to know what the pirate gear meant. as an american i'm having trouble contextualizing it.

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

don't look at me i'm an australian

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

But you have a UK passport!

I don't know, I always saw all that as some kind of East London thing, thieves and scoundrels etc. even though Weatherall is from, like, Hertfordhsire?

― X-PAT (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)

i very nearly failed the weatherall questions at immigration last time i was over adam.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 04:32 (twenty years ago)

so they were grimey?

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

Haunted Dancehall!

― X-PAT (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

AW liked him some tartan trousers right

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

this thread make me cry

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

two of my favorite 12"s of all time are from the sabres label

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

which two are those??

WAIT LET ME GUESS

"smokebelch ii" and ... um ... "painkiller"??

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

actually, neither.

the two i love are that jack of swords single with alan vega talking over it and "crash, bang"

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

here is "painkiller" from the slack ep (the 12" pictured above).

http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3R9S1PVHBAW3J0C5AKFUDJ18KO

heavy shit in the "smokebelch ii" vein ... into the light!

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

"crash, bang"!!

super-dry drum production + wild stereo panning = MADNESS.

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

i realize i am badly misusing the term "dry" here.

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

i had this http://stat.discogs.com/R/t/35261-001.jpg and now wish i still did :(

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i see where you're going with the dry thing. dry as in almost wispy and scaly, like dry skin

love the warm bubbling analog bass underneath, sorta sounds like a popcorn popper through a vocoder pitched down

and the Vegagod mix on the comp pictured above is good, but has nothing on the a-side with the vocal samples "I would personally probably kill myself" "You are a VEGAGOD, you're fucked up you're finished"

so great. used to play the hell out of that record

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

sabres was a great label...

These tracks are especially good:

Secret Knowledge - "Ooh Baby"
Secret Knowledge - "Sugardaddy"
Jack of Swords - "The Box"
Sabres of Paradise "Smokebelch" and "Smokebelch II"
Inky Blacknuss - "Drumulator"

The Sabres thing (along with Drum Club) sort guided London's "cooler" techno scene in 1993. A better option than Megadog.

The pirate thing ... I have no idea. They were ex-punks making dubby/tracky/bangin' techno.

― Tannenbaum Schmidt (Nik), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

so to what extent was the sabres label a retro move? retro as in back-to-basics stripped-down 1988 acid house production values vis-a-vis guerilla, hard hands, R&S etc?

i get flashes of chicago house from all the cowbell action on these tracks.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

fuck yeah, "painkiller" is fantastic. ow. i mean, the opposite of ow.
i have the inky blacknuss EP but have no recollection of how it sounds. bought it when i was in a bit of an andrea parker phase, and i remember being disappointed in it then... who knows, i might love it now.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)

It's been over two hours now...sheets of notepaper discarded around me, covered in lame attempts to explain a label that's merely a collection of record created by people with an open, like mind. They have no concept of pigeonholing, rules or the use of the word 'product' when it comes to music.
Named after a Hayzee Fantayzee track and a bunch of renegade cossacks, started with zero finance, 1,000 records, and helped on its way two friends with a car.
Two years later we've grown quite a bit, but the mentality remains. Sometimes a hindrance, but mostly a help., no game plan, no buinsess plan, in fact no plans at all. As for aims and goals, don't know the meaning of the concepts, concepts which can lead to compromise.
I'm not going to try and run through this compilation with some sort of track by track explanation.
You find a common thread...but then again why bother? Who needs handy hooks for hanging labeled packages on? Oh yea, I know, Marketing Men.
I'd much rather use this space to say a long overdue thanks to the following people:
Billy and Chips, Genesis P. Orridge, Nina, Robert Linney, Jeff Barratt, Noel, Curley, MadArk, and a supporting/supportive cast of DJs, Journalists, and enthusiasts. You know who you are and so do I. Come the revolution you will receive your rewards.
Love and Sabres
A. Weatherall

P.S. In England the cuts were deep, crossing the water to the U.S. they turned septic; your cockney friends will tell you why!

http://music.hyperreal.org/flightpath/label/sabres_of_paradise/

― Tannenbaum Schmidt (Nik), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

bloody hell i have that technova record and i don't think i ever knew it was on sabres.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

"painkiller" remains one of my favorite songs of all time (purists will be deliciously outraged to know that i have been known on occasion to mix this song with the deep dish remix of "music" by madonna - to GRATE EFFECT)

i have hunted high and low for a single that i vaguely remember from 1994, on this label, and am beginning to believe it doesn't exist - i remember it being called "veuvenage" - a word google claims has never been used, anywhere. the more i think about it, it may have been conemelt - "crash bang and wallop" - it was very dry, aggressive and percussive with essentially no melody anywhere, but a lot of FLANGING action going on.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 23 July 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

It's "Vauvenage", like so: http://www.discogs.com/release/16304

But it's Dutch, maybe you confused it with a Sabrettes release because of the red vinyl and Weatherbunny was probably caning it back then.

― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 23 July 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

isn't it this one?

classic!

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 23 July 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yes indeed, wonder what happened there.

― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

it looks like you missed a '6' off the end when you copied and pasted. easily done.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 24 July 2006 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

The Corridor "X". extremely classic.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusendzit?

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

also search corridor: "no-fi"

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know that one!

pod - "melonfarmer" - i THINK that's what it's called - on sabrettes; hard to tell sometimes with these records - VERY VERY classic

xpost don't know that one either! hmm!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

actually i think it may be called "jerry"

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

comin right up

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

yay!

by the way, thank you SO MUCH blunt and stirry for the link to my long lost vauvenage! gah i thought i was losing it. i would kill to hear that again.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

also: strange that there's no Waxworth Industries on the septic cuts compilation. both WI tracks on Deep cuts are great.

take the book
write your name on the book
under your name write "traance. deeper and deeper"

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

Pod - "Jerry"

http://www.sendspace.com/file/mpa8yy

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

The Corridor - X

http://www.sendspace.com/file/cwz5u0

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

haha very different feels there jed!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

yeah just what i was thinking! "jerry" is mental.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

i put the gain up on that after i ripped it from vinyl and i think it had the effect of squashing the very boomy bass a little bit - on that track in particular the bass need room to boom - i will try again when i get a chance. i'm not very au fait with the best way to do this stuff. maybe the best thing is to keep it a bit quiet and leave it up to everybody else to turn it up.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

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