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Inspired by another thread ranking certain famous Britpop albums.

The following don't count as Britpop here:
Anyone who predated Britpop chronologically, such as Stone Roses, Auteurs, La's, or even Squeeze, The Jam, XTC, Elvis Costello or Nick Lowe
Anyone who is not from the British Isles (so no Wannadies, Brainpool nor Soundtrack Of Our Lives)
More experimental indie acts such as Radiohead and Muse
Any British act who clearly isn't Britpop musically (i.e. not retro, hardly using guitars, not song-oriented/melodic etc, not writing their own songs, or simply very American sounding)

I have decided that I let the current generation of radio-friendly melancholics count, even though they are a borderline case chronologically

Now, for the list:

1. Dodgy: Free Peace Sweet
2. Super Furry Animals: Radiator
3. Dodgy: Homegrown
4. Travis: The Invisible Band
5. Super Furry Animals: Phantom Power
6. Travis: The Man Who
7. Doves: The Last Broadcast
8. Electric Soft Parade: Holes In The Wall
9. Blur: The Great Escape
10.Super Furry Animals: Rings Around The World
11.Blur: Parklife
12.Coldplay: Parachutes
13.Supernaturals: It Doesn't Matter Anymore
14.Oasis: (What's The Story) Morning Glory
15.Keane: Hopes And Fears
16.Coldplay: Rush Of Blood To The Head
17.Supergrass: Life On Other Planets
18.Athlete: Tourist
19.Travis: 12 Memories
20.Oasis: Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants

No Pulp, no Suede. Both were great, but not quite as great as lots of the other acts here.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

there are too many rules. only 20 records fit your criteria. luckily, you have them all in your list. well done lad

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Since when are Coldplay and Travis Britpop? Since when did Britpop still even fucking exist in 2003?

I give up. Delete thread.

― Zammer., Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

I vote for The Gliteratti and The Ordinary Boys.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

I vote for The Libertines, Kasabian and The Killers

― Zammer., Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Good for you.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

No true Britpop bands mentioned yet. Garage rock is not Britpop.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

http://www.ifrance.com/cdsensation/images/10.gif

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lisathedaddy.com/images/craig%20david.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

http://hunks.punt.nl/upload/craig_david.gif

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

MOD INFLUENCE!

http://www.delafont.com/music_acts/Music_Images/c-david.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

http://www.terra.es/addon/img/ocio/musica/b8d082craigp.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

http://www.zhaocd.com/lib_b/07292124craig2.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

Craig David is not Britpop for the following reasons:

- Britpop has ABSOLUTELY ZERO R&B elements
- He isn't a band
- He is way too keyboard based

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

http://teemix.aufeminin.com/imworld/stars/fan/D20040824/16_440253853_craig_david_06_H221617_L.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

The only black Britpop act that I know about is Oscar Harrison from Ocean Colour Scene.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

http://php.allstarz.ee/artistid/pildid/52/Craig%20David%204004.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

http://www.havant.ac.uk/images/craigdavid.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.britcoun.org/usa-arts-300x383-craig-david.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Shup up folks. Britpop is a MUSICAL GENRE. Not "pop from Britain"!!!!!!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

Geir....it's been said before and it will be said again but it bears repeating...: you suck.

― Frogm@n Henry, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

You suck, hijacking a thread that is supposed to be about a MUSIC GENRE, with certain musical elements that are required!!!!!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Dom is much more eloquent than me. Sorry.

― Frogm@n Henry, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

OK, then.

The best hip-hop albums ever made:

1. Genesis: Selling England By The Pound
2. XTC: Skylarking
3. Depeche Mode: Contruction Time Again
4. Genesis: Foxtrot

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

WOW YOU SURE PROVED YOUR POINT OH IT HURTS OH OH IT HURTS

― Frogm@n Henry, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

don't you ever get bored of the same shit records?

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

They aren't shit. They are brilliant. Beautiful highly melodic songs that you can sing along to and get happy from. And lots of musical sophistication that you will be able to enjoy in any situation, not just on the dancefloor, like the less worthy rhythm crap you enjoy.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

are you rocking back and forth?

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Artist: The Beatnuts f/ Greg Nice
Album: No Escapin' This CD-S
Song: No Escapin' This (Alternate Vocal Version)
Typed by: jostmatt@bluewin.ch

No escaping this

[ Greg Nice ]
Oh, oh, oh! 2 G's mother, uh!
The Beatnuts y'all, uh!
Uh, oh, oh! JuJu, Psycho Les, uh, oh!
Turn it out oh, oh my god oh!
Oh, oh, it's the hardcore b-boy shit!
Uh, hard to the core muthafucka, no keyboard shit!

[ Psycho Les ]
Aiyo, I'm up in the club like ba-ba-ba-ba
Smokin on a blunt, sippin on some vodka
Shorties wanna talk, haters wanna cock-block
Talkin a lotta blah, blah, blah, blah
I make my way to the bar, snatch me up a bottle
By the end of the night I be leavin with a model
There's no escapin this, the rapist is back
On the j-o-b, and I'm still down with O.P.P.
You gon' slowly see how we conquer this rap game
You violate, my pupils dilate
You got a problem with my peoples, dial 1-8-
-00, Psycho Les stay blunted, America's Most
It's the lunatic, straight from a padded cell
We play volley blunts, don't wait for us to pass the l
Nigga, stop feelin yourself and feel these Nuts
Cause "No one's ready to deal with us"

[ JuJu ]
Yo, we back, aren't you happy we came?
All you muthafuckas soundin the same
You're pathetic and your music is lame
Get a little style, try and grow up
Stick your finger in your mouth, throw up
Take a breather, rich, but I would hate to be ya
That's why I never pass you cheeba
Or let you fuck my bitches neither
We hip-hop in the essence
Grant it alone, the mere presence
Put fear in your heart
You're scared cause you never had a ear for the art
Robbin people for they 15 bucks
Bad enough bein 16 sucks
Where all my shorties with the double-d cups?
With the thongs and the platinum butts?
Junkyard, baby, show me your tits
Got a cock that'll blow you to bits
On the real, I'm as good as it gets
Why you people even playin with us?
You know "No one's ready to deal with us"

(No escaping this)
"No one..."
(No escaping this)
(No escaping this)
"No one..."
(No escaping this)
(No escaping this)
"No one..."
(No escaping this)
"No one's ready to deal with us"

[ Psycho Les ]
Beatnuts is for the peoples like Democrats
Y'all cats is see-through with those demo tracks
Got you pullin your wig off, you don't understand, bro
Can't believe Billboard Beatnuts plateau
[ JuJu ]
Listen, it's useless, don't even ask
Bein a Nut is a difficult task
You better off with a gun and a mask
Whoever said we was friendly and shit?
I'm nice at makin enemies quit
Get out my face, yo
[ Psycho Les ]
Aiyo, it's Big Psych, every chick like to pit fight
They wanna be my hookers cause I'm the pimp type
You, you know my rank, sonny, top gun
You, you ain't nothin but a old rusty shotgun
[ JuJu ]
You couldn't bust a grape in a food fight
Your whole crew is too light
The Demon talk whenever Ju writes
Stop playin, money, feel these Nuts
Cause "No one's ready to deal with us"

[ Psycho Les ]
We got the VIP on lock, let the bottles pop-pop
Ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba
You know we hip-hop 24-7 non-stop
Ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba
[ JuJu ]
We got the ecstacy that all the girls wanna pop
Ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba
Where my niggas on the block shootin back at the cops?
Like "No one's ready to deal with us"

(No escaping this)

[ Greg Nice ]
Oh, no! Turn it out oh!
Oh my God oh! Turn it out oh! (Repeat 4x)

What the hell is going on?

(No escaping this)

[ female voice ]
...motherfuckers, they got me in cage!
Let me out!
Let me out now!

[ male voice ]
Come here, sissy, I'm takin you hostage

[ female voice ]
They're gonna come for me
...you motherfuckers

[ Psycho Les ]
Corona in the house

[ female voice ]
Let me out this damn cage!

[ Psycho Les ]
Throw your hands up
[ JuJu ]
Throw your hands up

There's no escaping this

[ Greg Nice ]
JuJu rockin on, rockin on
Psycho Les rockin on, rockin on...

[ JuJu ]
Psych, break that 50 bag out

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

This is hilarious. Geir if Coldplay and Travis are Britpop then Craig David is too. Anyway I also vote for The Raveonettes, The Beatles, T-Rex, Joy Division and JJ72

― Zammer., Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

MINDACHE

― Frogm@n Henry, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

CALLUM VS GEIR:

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00004CM0H.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

Other than the chronology, Coldplay and Travis fit with every single of the criteria that Britpop acts have in common. Travis even started out as Oasis copycats on their debut album.

Coldplay and Travis are being called Britpop a lot in the press too, and not just because they are "British Pop"

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 72,600 for coldplay "britpop". (0.22 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 192,000 for coldplay "shit". (0.17 seconds)

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

seriously...

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000A382Z.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― elwisty (elwisty), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 735 000 for rap crap

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

ELGAR!! MUTHAFUCKAS!!!

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

http://www.basehead.org/files/shots/1-1-craig1024.jpg

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

Elgar predated Britpop, I think ;)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

HE IS A BORDERLINE CASE CHRONOLOGICALLY.

(x-post)

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

ELGAR? PSHH.

BYRD AND PETER MAXWELL DAVIS

― Masked Gazza, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Mike Skinner fits in lyrically, and accent-wise, but is all American musically.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

As you about oh Geir one please answer the question I have posed you at the bottom of

So is there a band....

thank you. I have given you some scietific evidence to play with.

― elwisty (elwisty), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

1-20.modern life is rubbish

― jason., Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

http://www.laila.com/images/Geir%202%20Bottles%20-%20Large.gif

― elwisty (elwisty), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

http://parkinson.tangozebra.com/images/show_7.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

Have we reached 20 albums yet?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

Geir, no way is Phantom Power SFA's second best. Fuzzy Logic and Guerilla beat it easily.

Also, whilst I agree that for the large part your list is crap, a couple of things that missed out which I think do and should qualify under your criteria are The Great Eastern by the Delgados and something by Ash, who still seem to operate vaguely near their best.

― Nick H (Nick H), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

i don't understand the intonation of your last picture, dom. could you explain, albeit melodiclly.

― elwisty (elwisty), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

NO NO YOKO ONO IS TOO INFLUENCED BY JAPANN AND AMERICA PLUS SHE BROKE UP TEH BEATLES WHICH MEANS SHE DOESN'T HAVE TEH BEATLES AS A PRIMARY INFLUENCE ALSO HER "WHITENESS" IS UP FOR DEBATE ILL LET HER SLIP IN THE
MALE CATEGORY THOUGH WIBBLE WIBBLLE

― Masked Geir, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

only 20 records fit your criteria. luckily, you have them all in your list

Plus Suede, Pulp, Gene, Ocean Colour Scene, Shed Seven, Northern Uproar, Embrace, Strangelove, Octopus, Cast, Kula Shaker, Sleeper, Echobelly, Geneva, Mansun, Silver Sun, Ash, Longpigs, Elastica, Stereophonics, Starsailor, Elbow, Kaiser Chiefs and Thirteen Senses, all of which meet perfectly with the Britpop criteria, none of which are represented in the list at all.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

The Gliteratti
The Ordinary Boys.
The Libertines
Kasabian
The Killers
The Raveonettes,
The Beatles
T-Rex
Joy Division
JJ72
Elgar
modern life is rubbish
The Great Eastern by the Delgados
Ash

― elwisty (elwisty), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

i don't understand the intonation of your last picture, dom. could you explain, albeit melodiclly.

Top right, top "Geir"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

Ash are definitely a band with no US musical influences though Geir, you got that one right.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

Ash sound a lot like a bunch of current American bands influenced by English punk from the 70s.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

http://www.universalmusic.no/images/280x280/Ashlee_Simpson-Lala.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.brillianttv.co.uk/timmymallett/images/bikermice.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

Has Kano been reduced to doing DFS adverts already?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

This black gentleman is not off-topic here:
http://bluetone-web.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ocs/img/member/oscar_p.jpg

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

Dom's parkinson screen cap was implying that geir is a)not fuuny anymore b)musically and otherwise conservative and c)only liked by middle aged mums

― Masked Gazza, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

Middle aged mums usually have better musical taste than most 14-year-olds these days.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

xxpost
oh dear god geir stop bragging about the ocs drummer it proves nothing you know

― Masked Gazza, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/images/funnyjose.jpg

Geir at an Ocean Colour Scene gig.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

There is no culture is my brag,
Your taste for bullshit reveals a lust for a home of office
THIS IS THE HOME OF THE VAIN!
THIS IS THE HOME OF THE VAIN!
Where are the obligatory niggers?*
HEY THERE FUCKFACE!!
HEY THERE FUCKFACE!!
There are twelve people in the world
The rest are paste
THIS IS THE HOME OF THE VAIN!
THIS IS THE HOME OF THE VAIN!

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

oh dear god geir stop bragging about the ocs drummer it proves nothing you know

It proves that skin colour has nothing to do with music, as opposed to what fans of "black" music tend to think.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bnp.org.uk/images/newsarchive/nghlfx2003.jpg

And not, it isn't Momus.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

A Question;

Is Britpop the new Noise?

― elwisty (elwisty), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

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― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

Mike Skinner fits in lyrically, and accent-wise, but is all American musically.
-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), May 3rd, 2005.

coz most britpop bands had no american musical influence at all. oh, except for rock music: 'tonight, i'm a rock and roll star...'

― Robin Goad (rgoad), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

20.Oasis: Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants WHAT?! Over Definitely Maybe?! Thats a rare opinion, I'm honestly pretty shocked, but hey, more power to ya, at least its good to see someone still likes that album (infinitely better than Be Here Now, and better than Heathen CHem)

― Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:06 (twenty years ago)

coz most britpop bands had no american musical influence at all.

Only indirectly, what slight American influences the beat bands of the 60s had.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

Can I say Ivor Cutler? I haven't said that for a long time.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

Ivor Cutler is insufficiently melodic and English.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

Now, These albums I can imagine SMASHing before they finish playing.

1. Dodgy: Free Peace Sweet
3. Dodgy: Homegrown
4. Travis: The Invisible Band
6. Travis: The Man Who
13.Supernaturals: It Doesn't Matter Anymore
15.Keane: Hopes And Fears
17.Supergrass: Life On Other Planets
18.Athlete: Tourist
19.Travis: 12 Memories

These I'd let finish, then SMASH
8. Electric Soft Parade: Holes In The Wall
9. Blur: The Great Escape
12.Coldplay: Parachutes
20.Oasis: Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants
16.Coldplay: Rush Of Blood To The Head

And these can stay.
2. Super Furry Animals: Radiator
5. Super Furry Animals: Phantom Power
7. Doves: The Last Broadcast
10.Super Furry Animals: Rings Around The World
11.Blur: Parklife
14.Oasis: (What's The Story) Morning Glory

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

(Xpost yeah, but we're not on Engpop?)

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

Ivor Cutler is hardly using guitars.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

This was my Britpop, according to my own definition of it and no-one else's. Nothing before 93, nothing after 99.

I found that dropping perfectly good albums from this list because they weren't sufficiently "Britpop" enough to be a somewhat degrading process, but still.

1. different class - pulp
2. dog man star - suede
3. tiger bay - saint etienne
4. urban hymns - the verve
5. grand prix - teenage fanclub
6. elastica - elastica
7. the three e.p.'s - beta band
8. coming up - suede
9. definitely maybe - oasis
10. parklife - blur
11. everything must go - manic street preachers
12. suede - suede
13. so tough - saint etienne
14. it's great when you're straight... yeah! - black grape
15. h.m.s. fable - shack
16. guerilla - super furry animals
17. this is hardcore - pulp
18. (what's the story) morning glory - oasis
19. stanley road - paul weller
20. tellin' stories - the charlatans
21. when i was born for the 7th time - cornershop
22. casanova - the divine comedy
23. bring it on - gomez
24. wild wood - paul weller
25. attack of the grey lantern - mansun

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

This was my Britpop, according to my own definition of it and no-one else's. Nothing before 93, nothing after 99.

I would say most of the albums fit somewhat. Apart from Weller, they are all part of the same generation, although I find Saint Etienne, Beta Band and Black Grape a bit different from Britpop musically.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

I can live with that last list in its entirety.

Yeah!

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

The thing is that I'm not even sure Dog Man Star and This is Hardcore are really Britpop either. It's a hard genre to define. Is Everything will Go Britpop?

― C-Man (C-Man), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

Well, y'see, my Britpop encouraged diversity and invention, not genre-based restriction. Which is where the likes of Ocean Colour Scene and Cast fail: you can hear them straining to conform to some sort of received notion of what they "should" be doing, and the respect they show to their influences is too pronounced. (Meanwhile, Oasis were so blatantly and shamelessly stealing ideas from their big influences that it was somehow possible to admire them for their cheek...)

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Whoever is wearing his influences clearly should be admired for that. There nothing wrong with praising the past, particularly not if you do it as a protest against the present.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

As Hitler did with the age of the Teutonic Knights.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm going with Britpop as 93 to 97, but consider Dog Man Star - and also The Holy Bible/ Everything Must Go/ Dummy/ The Bends/ McAlmont and Butler - as non-Britpop albums. This is Hardcore... def. a post-Britpop album. These are what I think of when I think Britpop

1) Suede
2) Different Class
3) Coming Up
4) Parklife
5) Tiger Bay
6) The Masterplan
7) The It Girl
8) Modern Life is Rubbish
9) Elastica
10) Smart

I think these are the classics of the period - maybe add Def. Maybe and Expecting to Fly by the Bluetones.
8)

― C-Man (C-Man), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

is this a thread abt rockism?

― Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

1. Cardiacs - On Land And In The Sea
2. Kirsty MacColl - Electric Landlady
3. CUD - When In Rome, Kill Me
4. Doctor Feelgood - Doctor's Orders
5. BMX Bandits - Star Wars
6. Elvis Costello - Punch The Clock
7. Marc Riley and the Creepers - Warts 'n' All
8. Neil - Heavy Concept Album
9. Iron Maiden - Live After Death
10. Half Man Half Biscuit - Back Again In The D.H.S.S.
11. Revillos - Rev Up
12. Denim - On Ice
13. Orange Juice - The Orange Juice
14. Toy Dolls - Dig That Groove Baby
15. Bachelor Pad - The Tales Of Hoffman
16. Nyah Fearties - A Tasty Heidfu'
17. Cardiacs - Sing To God (parts 1 & 2)
18. Malcom McLaren - Duck Rock
19. Pink Floyd - Relics
20. bIG fLAME - Two Kan Guru

(not in order)

― everything, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

One album per artist....

1. St Etienne - So tough
2. Divine Comedy - Promenade
3. Pulp - His n hers
4. Dreadzone - First light
5. Denim - Back in denim
6. Edwyn Collins - Gorgeous George
7. Simon Warner - Waiting rooms
8. Blur - Parklife
9. Oasis - Definitely maybe
10. Ultramarine - United Kingdoms
11. Dubstar - Disgraceful
12. World of Twist - Quality street
13. Suede - Dog man star
14. Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix
15. Sparks - Gratuitous Sax...
16. Barry Adamson - Oedipus schmoedipus
17. Bathers - Kelvingrove baby
18. Sunhouse - crazy on the weekend
19. Shack - hms fable
20. Delta - Slippin' out

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

and number 1/2
Auteurs - New wave

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

I'd say Edwyn's Brit-pop statement is "I'm Not Following You". It even includes a nice a tirade against the whole movement or whatever it was - it's surely not a musical genre.

"Taking back the union jack, my arse" as he says.

― everything, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

because I cant find the other thread:
that people still actually remember Dog Man Star exists makes me all fuzzy. but suede were like a strange obssession for me as a kid so I think its more nostaglia than anything else. I gave up hope after bernard butler left, & I agree that ed buller's production on DMS sucked but he more than made up for it with what followed. but I still have the DMS poster from select mag on my wall. and "the tears" is definitely a sign of impending apocalypse. *cringe*

also as far as the auteurs, luke haines is a genius, but "new wave" was DEFINITELY a britpop album - you would be hardpressed to convince me otherwise.

― novaeris (novaeris), Thursday, 5 May 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

No Pulp, no Suede. Both were great, but not quite as great as lots of the other acts here.

Pulp is not quite as great as.....TRAVIS?!

Oh Geir...you're such a funny little robot.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 5 May 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

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