Who were "the PUNKEST" of the Punks?

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Based on these dueling threads....

...given the fractured and contradictory definietions/parameters of "Punk," who do you think most embodied the spirit/aesthetic/execution of Punk Rock?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Crass.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

I think. but I'm not sure why, exactly.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Crass.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Based on their utter disdain for convention and devotion to subversion, I'd say Throbbing Gristle. They made the `Pistols and the Clash and the rest of'em seem positively quaint.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Crass? You're joking - they were hippy dropouts!

I'd say either a) The Swell Maps - homemade DIY din b)Eater - kidz can do it too! or c) X-Ray Spex - reversal of women's role in bands, TOTAL DIY aesthetic, AND they made it onto TOTP.

Actually the answer is C because of the first 5 seconds of 'O Bondage..'

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

The Punkles and the Surf Punks. Because they actually have the word PUNK in their names.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

No wait... it's a tie between X-Ray Spex and The Desperate Bicycles.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

The Exploited were pretty obsessed with their own punkness, does that make them more punk or less?

― Dennis, Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Public Image Ltd

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

G.G. Allin

― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Dr C's argument is convincing, I change my vote to Eater!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Some band who never recorded anything.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

even though they weren't punk - the electric eels.

― diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Metal Urbain - French invective is the best in the world!

― Soukesian, Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Any of the cider swillers/gluesniffers from Brizzle, the people who couldn't get it together to build a bender, so just lived in hedges instead. None more punk.

― snotty moore, Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

even though they weren't punk - the electric eels.

fuckin OTM

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

I second the Electric eels, maybe Half Japanese

― mr t (pete and pete), Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

THE GERMS.

― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Half Japanese also a good call, except that they didn't break up and never used a lawnmower on stage.

― diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

http://members.cox.net/sciatica/images/sigue_sigue_sputnik.jpg

― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

The Plasmatics
Billy Idol
The Quick
Haircut 101

― Leonard Thompson (Grodd), Thursday, 5 May 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Costello circa This Years Model. Laugh if you will.

― darin (darin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

ELO
BeeGees
Harry Chapin
Leo Sayer
The Killers

― Leonard Thompson (Grodd), Thursday, 5 May 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

Alternative TV

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 5 May 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

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― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Thursday, 5 May 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Crass
The Germs
The Damned

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Politically: The Clash, man! or maybe Crass.. Dead Kennedys?

Behaviorally: GG Allin, followed at a fair distance by The Mentors

Sonically: Napalm Death

Titularly: (3 way tie) Fuck, The Crucifucks, Anal Cunt

― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Generation X.

whoops...

no, it's got to be Crass, hasn't it?

or maybe Bodycount.

― Lee F# (fsharp), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

(Pauses from laughing at darin)

GG Allin and A homunculus of Darby Crash

― yr mom (yr mom), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

probably some shitty band like eater

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

crass were hippies! but then lots of punks were secretly hippies.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

Ramones

― late adopter, Friday, 6 May 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

The Screamers!

― tylero (tylero), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

(Revisionism ha ha ha, not a single mention of the Clash/Pistols!

Hmmm...I say The Damned or maybe Black Flag.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

Black Flag dropped a lot of acid.

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Friday, 6 May 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)

elvis presley from 1954-56

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 6 May 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)

Is this a debate or just a list? If it's the latter then I nominate the Nyah Fearties. If it's the former then you guys don't know shit about debates.

― RECTO COLINARUS, Friday, 6 May 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

Second X-Ray Spex

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Friday, 6 May 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

http://www.killrockstars.com/bands/punks/photos/factsheet.jpg

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 6 May 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Stormtroopers of Death
Naked Raygun

― Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 6 May 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

The Worst (Manchester 1976)

― peter lloyd (peter lloyd), Monday, 30 May 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

Titularly: (3 way tie) Fuck, The Crucifucks, Anal Cunt
there's a band from melbourne called 'the fuck fucks' but thats more silly than punk.

gg allin should be disqualified for his music's shitness. therefore the germs win.

― Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Monday, 30 May 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

The Worst (Manchester 1976)

I read about them. Wondered if it was possible to even hear them now. I supposed not.

― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Monday, 30 May 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

gg allin should be disqualified for his music's shitness. therefore the germs win.

"shittiness," ha ha ha.

though i agree overall w/ this assessment of mr. allin's oeuvre, there are a few, um, kernels of corn buried deep in that mountain of shit. like "needle up my cock," "die when you die," "drink, fight, and fuck," and "i kill everything i fuck."

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 30 May 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

early xtc,early scritti politti
sex pistols were too pop to be punk,sex pistols were only slightly just more punk than early culture club or bananarama.

― anarchy kid, Monday, 30 May 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

crass were hippies! but then lots of punks were secretly hippies.

-- Amateur(ist) (amateurist@gmail.com), May 5th, 2005.

punk's greatest secret: it is largely a continuation of hippy/60's idealism, just for a more cynical age.

― latebloomer: B Minus Time Traveler (latebloomer), Monday, 30 May 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

Suicide. So punk that even the punks didn't want them.

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 30 May 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 30 May 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

http://themelesswonder.com/oldskull001.jpg

― Community Cornerstone (deangulberry), Monday, 30 May 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

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― latebloomer: B Minus Time Traveler (latebloomer), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

OTM.

― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)

Mike Patton.

― cdwill, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

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