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Where are people on this classic box set of psychodelia fro mthe us during 1965 and 1968?

Spazz is such a great song... and why did so many people want to sound like Mick Jagger

Sonicred, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the idea of it cos its a collection of classic singles and they're almost always good BUT I don't own it.

Was there a single-CD version ever put out, a kind of taster? I know I know, if I was a real rock fan I'd just get the whole thing, but I think it's well-established that I'm not.

Tom, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Nuggets II even better than Nuggets proper.

(Also note that the first disc of the first Nuggets set was the original Nuggets, a 27-track double-LP in the early '70s.)

Douglas, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

compiled by Lenny Kaye (the original LPs) if I'm not mistaken.

Fantastic set, but I, like Tom, do not own it, though I'm feeling more & more that I should. More than worth it, for me, for the original of 'I Want Candy', which for some reason I assumed was a Bow Wow Wow original! D'oh!

Oh, and the Standell's 'Dirty Water' (has there been a better song about Boston, ever??)etc etc

Bill E, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I actually own a one-LP version of it, which suits me just fine... it's hard for me to splurge for a box set when I can buy 4 individual CDs at the same price (or 10 used). Great stuff, though, but I'm not sure about a one-CD version.

Clarke B., Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Beware of single CD versions of Nuggets from the 80s while scouring the used bins. Before Rhino acquired the rights to the original collection, they cobbled together a half-assed Nuggets Vol. 1 and 2, which substituted Monkees hits, etc, for missing songs.

Curt, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Got both Vol 1 and Vol 2, and they're both worth every! Single! Penny! Lots of great material throughout, and not knowing most of it beforehand just makes it all that much better. Canadian shocker: Guess Who is included on Vol. 2, which is very weird, because I'd never ever considered that they might even qualify for inclusion on Nuggets.

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah the original double album version is what i got & it's solid classic...but some of the '80s Rhino series of single albums (there's lots of em, dunno how many) are good too, the ones called "The Hits", "Punk" & "Punk vol 2" are great 'cause they're ...well what they say they are, & what Tom said...the more specialised volumes are patchier but things like for inst. the 'Acid Rock' volume is good for people who just want 1 record of the famous hits (&a few well chosen obscurities) of that genre. & you can usually find em 2nd hand pretty cheap now that the box sets have rendered them semi otiose.

duane, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Early Guess Who belongs on Nuggets. Two Monkees songs do not belong on one Nuggets CD.

Curt, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Adding to the chorus -- yes, get, wonderful. I will get that second set soon, dammit.

I have a major fondness for all the obscuro knockoff stuff that Bomp and their likes keep issuing, scrounging away for songs sometimes lame and sometimes great. The influence of the original Nuggets keeps echoing down, thus such goodness as the recent Turkish psych comps on Dionysus and other labels.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm sure it has been mentioned when garage of this type came up before, but the Teenage Shutdown series is not to be missed. Only on Volume 11 (of 14) does the quality - er, energy or whatever word you like - drop off even a little. It's just incredible how bottomless a well there is of that stuff. Or how badly it could be played and recorded and still sound great. And although Teenage Shutdown doesn't have the slick, beautiful packaging of the Rhino boxes, the liner notes and pictures are at least as entertaining.

Curt, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Probably the greatest comp of all time! Best Jagger impersonator - Dave Aguilar

dave q, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Spooky - I was about to ask a Nuggets I v Nuggets II (US Garage v Brit Freakbeat)type question today, as I got Nuggets II yesterday.

I'll post later on this, but for now suffice to say that I love *all* this stuff more than just about anything.

Dr. C, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Probably 2 CDs worth of great stuff. Favourites are:

We The People - You Burn Me Up And Down (SR writes about this in his Faves of 99. This is as pure and dirty as rock'roll gets in a Stoogesy/Saints/Satisfacion way)

The Seeds - Pushin Too Hard

Thirteenth Floor Elevators - You're Gonna Miss Me

Count 5 - Psychotic Reaction

and of course Louie Louie by The Kingsman

Didn't bother getting the Nuggets 2.

David Gunnip, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

they are both marred by generic inclusions (endless Louie Louie re- hashes on vol. 1, too many orchestral twee-poppers on vol. 2) BUT there are enough moments of super soaraway genius to more than compensate for this. For me vol. 2 just pips it cos vol. 1 misses out some of my favourite garage punk tracks, the sublime poetry of "the City Jungle" by Beautiful Daze for instance. Also vol. 2 contains "Path Through the Forest" by the Factory which is probably my favourite song of all time.

Alasdair, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

don't own the nuggets compilation, but the electric prunes, seeds and chocolate watch band tracks are all great.

how do people feel about Nuggets Vs Pebbles. i have a few of the pebbles compilations and like them quite a lot (especially Vol3 - The Acid Gallery which is superb

gareth, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Have both of these and both are wonderful and essential.

The track that grabbed me most on vol 2 was by Tages. I Read You Like An Open Book (Last track CD1). The first time i heard it i wasn't even in the same room and could only half hear it and it was still wonderful. At times I think its really badly edited and yet i still love it.

They're a Swedish band and I've checked out some other stuff by them since and it seems pretty good too. They seem to have followed the path of most Brit groups of the time from R 'n B covers to psychedelic pop. One of many good reasons to splash the cash.

mms, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It seems to me that the US Garage includes more wild abandon and genuine rock n roll madness. Maybe since more groups consisted of mid- teens (Castaways, Zakary Thaks), or local crazies who were lured towards music as an alternative to living in a log cabin in the woods or setting fire to small animals (Roky Erikson)

Brit-freakbeat/psyche seems to be a little more staid at times. Many of the bands seem to be suspiciously 'pro', or made up of grammar school boys, or were forced to draft in 'Ron the plumbers mate' on drums to make the numbers up. Of course this all produces wierdness of a particular kind, too.

I heard Os Mutantes for the first time yesterday. 'Bat Macambo'. Outrageous!

Dr. C, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I couldn't believe the Zakary Thaks when I first heard them, I thought it was really early Black Flag or something. Amazing!

dave q, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I finally found out that 'Mr Pharmacist' isn't an original Fall number when i got it.

melody nelson, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I do know a lot of the songs being mentioned. The only thing is I think I'd get a bit tired by even the end of one CD let alone six or eight or fourteen or whatever - actually this is a separate thread in that I really don't get how people can listen straight through to the same style of music for more than about ten tracks, doesnt it do your head in? (This is why I hardly ever go clubbing, though I love dance music)

Tom, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i sometimes find it difficult to *adjust my ears* if I listen to say 20 minutes of Nuggets stuff followed by something with clean, modern production. Somehow you listen to them in different ways, and get used to a particular range of frequencies, or timbres maybe or just the amount of *detail*.

If I throw on some Upsetters-era Lee Perry it sounds murky for a couple of tracks until I'm *tuned-in*. Then I switch to Scritti Politti (C+S '85, say) and it sounds like knives at the temperature of liquid nitrogen are being surgically inserted into my inner ear.

Dr. C, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

doesn't this depend on your perception of one type of music? i think whats on the nuggets thing is pretty varied. and after all, an album by any artist (even a varied one) has a stylistic continuity.

and with dance music, theres peaks and troughs i think (if yr talking a continuous mix). also, once within a particular framework (with any kind of music), then the differences between different songs become more apparent until it seems varied again. nuances become as apparent as huge stylistic jumps.

gareth, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, I agree with all that stuff in theory, but I still get itchy. For one thing I find it more fun spotting the continuities between wildly different records than the differences between apparently similar ones.

Tom, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

for the one-disc hunters: Rhino did in fact put out a single-disc condensation of the first Nuggets box--first as a promo, then in stores. I had the Nuggets II promo (sold it when I got the full box), but haven't seen it sold-as-new in stores yet.

M. Matos, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Top Ten Greatest Garage Comps 1. Nuggets, Lenny Kaye version/Nuggets Vol 1 Box set (tie)
2. Nuggets Vol 2 Box set
4. Back from The Grave, vol. 1
5. Pebbles, Vol. 2
6. Teenage Shutdown, "Jump, Jive and Harmonize"
7. Pebbles, Vol. 1
8. Back from The Grave, vol. 2
9. "What a Way To Die"
10. G.S. I Love You (japanese garage comp)

fritz, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I bought the first Nuggets box set a couple of years ago. I've only ever listened to the first cd - which is the same as the original single album version. I like it well enough but obviously not enough to make me want to listen to the other cds.

ArfArf, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it sounds like knives at the temperature of liquid nitrogen are being surgically inserted into my inner ear

Sounds like heaven to me!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

For those of you who dig Nuggets you might want to check out this compiliation of bands from the Cavestomp festival.

Cavestomp is a great garage rock festival/record label run by my friend Alyssa who was brought bands like Chocolate Watchband back together for the event. Of particular note is the track "Hey Little Ghoul" by the Deadites. Even though that's one of Hank's bands I have to say I was huge fan of theirs the first time I saw them, a good year before we became a thang.

Samantha, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Forget the Chocolate Watchband, it was all about getting the Monks back together! Tell your friend she's got way cool taste.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's great hearing the original versions of things that I thought were (new) originals by bands - such as
"Mr. Pharmacist", covered by the Fall.

Also, "Hey Joe" & "Let it All Hang Out", which I knew were covers, but had never heard.

Dave225, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

for the one-disc hunters: Rhino did in fact put out a single-disc condensation of the first Nuggets box--first as a promo, then in stores.

For the longest time Nuggets had a claim going of something like "The best record never available on CD." (I think it was on Rolling Stones list of Best 50 albums ever or something). Rhino should've put the original album out as the sampler, but, alas, they didn't. Come on, "Wooly Bully" over "Don't Look Back"? That's fucked.

As for the original question: Where are people on this classic box set of psychodelia fro mthe us during 1965 and 1968?

I don't stand anywhere on it. I have the Rhino version of Nuggets (the aforementioned Monkees-filled one from the 80's), so I didn't totally trust them on the box. I do have the 1970's double LP, which I love too much for words, and a bunch of the other better tracks that fill out the three discs of the box on other albums, but I can't imagine it being better than Vol. 2.

Vic Funk, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Alasdair MacLean wrote : . **Also vol. 2 contains "Path Through the Forest" by the Factory which is probably my favourite song of all time**

Absolutely on the money, Alasdair! I had this on repeat play for ages yesterday. Staggeringly great track with a unique atmosphere, interesting sonics and great tune. I love the proto-kraut drumming to.

Dr. C, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, it's fantastic. I recently got a CDR of the other 5 songs they recorded, which highlights them as maybe the best freakbeat band ever, but sadly burdened with pretty dull material. Apparently after "path through the forest" they got writers block, so they had to draft in shite mccartney wannabes like John Pantry who wrote them horribly sixties schmixties generic songs, and a few redundant blues jams. Their second 45, "Try a little sunshine" is nearly as good, though. And the way they play even these dodgy numbers is astonishing.

Alasdair, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone wanting to dive further into the dodgier psych aspect of Nuggets II should check out the 4-CD Mojo Presents 'Acid Drops, Spacedust & Flying Saucers'. The name pretty well sums it up. My only complaint, and a minor one, is too many familiar cuts, like Kinks and Who.

Curt, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
NEW single-disc Nuggets comps from Rhino Handmade!

soft pop
psych pop

haitch haitch haitch (or any three repetitive sounds) (haitch), Sunday, 28 November 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

wow. so much goodness on one beautifully packaged release, for a mere fiver.
loving this. a whole new world beckons.
so, where to go next ?

mark e, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

The full box set, I guess, though it'll set you back about sixty quid and never features in sales. I've only seen it once second-hand, £20 in MVE, and that was only because the CDs looked as though someone had been using them to cook omelettes.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:50 (eighteen years ago)

The Pebbles compilations are pretty good as well.

Neil S, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:56 (eighteen years ago)

ooh. just had a nice bonus, or, a lot more probable, the boxset will be added on my Special Birthday Want List.
not that my wife ever checks the bloody list.

mark e, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

What's your favorite Nugget?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

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abanana, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

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abanana, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

fourteen years pass...

So a quick note that Lenny Kaye was the guest on the latest Ace Records podcast yesterday

https://soundcloud.com/ace-records-ltd/the-ace-records-podcast-25-lenny-kaye

And a bit of news he mentions offhand: a 5 LP 50th anniversary version will be coming out on Rhino towards the end of the year. No specifics, so time to speculate. A distillation of the 4 CD box set? Some alternate choices?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2022 17:34 (three years ago)

I always wondered why ? And the mysterians 96 tears wasn't included in the 4cd set. Feels like an oversight.

ringworm, Thursday, 3 March 2022 18:17 (three years ago)

Too broadly compiled already probably. Even in the 60s it appeared on tons of "Super Hits"-type albums.

everything, Thursday, 3 March 2022 18:29 (three years ago)

Abkco Records owns the Cameo/Parkway catalogue, which includes "96 Tears", and they notoriously held that stuff hostage for years, not licencing or anything until the mid-'00s.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 March 2022 18:40 (three years ago)

"years during the CD era", I mean.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 March 2022 18:41 (three years ago)

I always wondered why ? And the mysterians 96 tears wasn't included in the 4cd set. Feels like an oversight.

― ringworm, Thursday, March 3, 2022 1:17 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Too broadly compiled already probably. Even in the 60s it appeared on tons of "Super Hits"-type albums.

― everything, Thursday, March 3, 2022 1:29 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Apparently it was meant to be on Lenny Kaye's never released second volume
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuggets:_Original_Artyfacts_from_the_First_Psychedelic_Era,_1965%E2%80%931968

mizzell, Thursday, 3 March 2022 18:49 (three years ago)

I hadn't seen that vol 2 tracklust before, interesting. Some others there not on the 4cd.

ringworm, Thursday, 3 March 2022 19:42 (three years ago)

UGly Things had a list of possible inclusions that didn't make the cut or something to similar effect in an issue a couple of years ago. as in what was in the work i progress versions.
I need to get this recent Lenny Kaye book about historic music scenes.

Stevolende, Thursday, 3 March 2022 20:35 (three years ago)

vol 2 tracklust

An accurate description of past decades regarding this thing, yes.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2022 20:56 (three years ago)

Freudian slip!

ringworm, Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:40 (three years ago)


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