Radio Birdman: c or d

ah, shout that out drunk when someone says that hunters and collectors rock...

That is what you meant, wasn't it?

I like a few of their songs but find themas w hole, severely overrated.

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And yes, the CD version of Radios Appear is worth getting mostly because the couple songs the Essential does miss -- "Hit Them Again", "Monday Morning Gunk", their cover of the 13th Floor Elevators' "You're Gonna Miss Me" -- are well worth getting.

so, classic.

Radio Birdman, Mudhoney, Dirtbombs and Easy Action Sept. 3rd, Majestic Theatre, Detroit.

with mudhoney opening, hopefully that means they'll make it to the pacific northwest

except for life being so unstable that i don't go to shows much

Hell, I thought everyone knew this by now...

August: Wednesday 30th: Los Angeles - Wiltern Theater
Thursday 31st: San Francisco - Great American Music Hall

September: Friday 1st: Seattle - El Corazon
Saturday 2nd: Chicago - Double Door
Sunday 3rd: Detroit - Majestic Theatre
Tuesday 5th: Cleveland - Beachland Ballroom
Wednesday 6th: Washington (DC) - Black Cat
Friday 8th: New York - Irving Plaza
Saturday 9th: Cambridge (MA) - The Middle East
Montreal - tba

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Hi

For those of you who care about such things, thought I'd drop a dime
and spell it out for your use/knowledge-base:

The brand new album, "Zeno Beach" is being release in North America via Yep Roc Records. The release date is August 22nd. I'm also happy to report that the new album shows the band not having skipped a beat, or having aged badly... fans will be undoubtedly very, very pleased...

The tour of the US starts later that month. Here's the official, confirmed dates:

8.30.06 Los Angeles, CA - The Wiltern LG
8.31.06 San Francisco, CA - Great American Music Hall
9.01.06 Seattle, WA - El Corazon
9.02.06 Chicago, IL - Double Door
9.03.06 Detroit, MI - The Majestic Theater
9.05.06 Cleveland, OH - Beachland Ballroom
9.06.06 Washington, DC - Black Cat
9.08.06 New York, NY - Irving Plaza
9.09.06 Cambridge, MA - Middle East
9.10.06 Philadelphia, PA - First Unitarian Church

This is the first ever appearance by the band on these shores--the
Dennis Tek stuff doesn't count.

Please spread the word.

...

Hmm, looks like there are no Canadian dates, as previously hinted.

In AMG, John Dougan wrote, "I've seen this box set exactly once (in Minneapolis to be exact), didn't pick it up and have regretted it almost daily ever since. If you've caught the fever of this band and are inclined to have their complete recorded works — buy it!"

That must be the one I bought ;) I played cuts from it pretty often on my radio show. Overall I felt there was something missing, in a way similar to The Dictators. If they were legends, their recordings were missing the spark I would expect.

I figured it would only be a matter of time when everything was remastered and reissued with nice liner notes. I didn't get the Sub Pop collection because I want all the songs. This site referred to both albums being reissued. Was it Aussie only?

"In 1996 Tek and Younger went into the studio and remixed both Radios Appear and Living Eyes for re-issue on CD. The original master tapes from Rockfield had been found and after some repairwork were put back into service. In the two decades since the band had last been active, Younger had become the best producer in Australia with a knack for creating crackling hot records, and he put all of his skills to use in remixing the two CDs. The final results are essential; it is rare to hear records benefit so much from remixing as these two have; everything is so much more clear and punchy."

Too bad they can't do anything 'bout the songs, which were the weak part, and I actually bought the original "Radios Appear" and listened to it quite a lot. "Man With Golden Helmet" -- yuck. And not much after the first was too good with the exception of the song "Burn My Eye."

The live CD from a few years ago off one of their Aussie reunion tours wasn't bad. It convinced you their best moment was easily "Aloha Steve & Danno." "New Race" and "Do the Pop" maybe coming in second and third.

Given the choice between them and the James Gang reunion tour this summer with Joe Walsh, I'll take the James Gang by a six-pack for 70's nostalgia.

DAMMIT SCREW YOU PHILLY!!!

Deniz Tek's an interesting guy though, he formed the band down under when he was in medical school, went on to become a flight surgeon/pilot in the US Navy and now practices in Montana. He still plays the old Epiphone Crestwood he bought from Fred Smith.

I really really really don't want to hear anything about that new Stooges album anymore after this.

Anyone know why their show was cancelled last night?

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Where? Are they on tour again?

They were, yes.

http://www.radio-birdman.com/dates.html

and they apparently had visa trouble that one time - someone says something about it in the replies here (live pictures in there too) : http://www.myspace.com/theofficialradiobirdman

I don't think they're that great overall. They had a great name, great image, great song titles, but they never exceeded the sum of their parts.

Their sound is quite thin really, especially considering there was six of them. I'd like to like them, but overall they're a bit dud.

I was reading the section about them in Clinton Heylin's Babylon Is Burning, and pulled out the CD. It had been a few years and it sounded pretty great. It's no Stooges, but what is? By the way, I always assumed the book was just a rehash of From the Velvets to the Voidoids with UK punk and 80s indie and grunge tacked on, which is why it merited the persnickety reviews. But at least up through the 70s, it's pretty great, giving a more well-rounded picture, with more of everything.

bummed by all the "they're no [x]" and "they're okay i guess" talk on this thread. you disappoint me, ILM. though there might be a bit of chaff here or there, the songwriting & performances on radios appear are rock solid, keeping respectable company with the saints, stooges & MC5. the surrounding EP tracks & singles measure up just fine, supporting the album without eclipsing it.

i have to admit that living eyes probably did do something to dilute their rep. it's a fine record and compellingly dark, but nowhere near as immediately ingratiating as the debut, and the original mix was incredibly poor, rendering everything down into a flat gray mush. (btw, i don't know that i've ever heard an album so spectacularly redeemed by a remix - if you haven't heard it since back in the day, you owe yourself some time with the remix/master.) still, whatever's done for the sound, it's a mite draggy overall, and a few remarkable exceptions noted ("crying sun"! "time to fall"!) the hooks are few and far between. worth remembering that it was a posthumous release, though. in the long run, this is a band that lives or dies by one near-flawless album, along with a manageable apocrypha.

listen to Younger blow his fucking larynx on "new race" ("kids are gonna eeject / cuz now it's time to PUNCH OUT!"). he's doing that for your benefit. listen to him wallow in post-exile despair on "love kills", as lovely and memorable a song as a supposedly punk band ever managed, in or out of australia. and Tek's just one of the best goddam guitar players of his day. every bit as versatile, passionate and inventive as the heavy-hitting proto-punk riff lords in whose favor he's now ignored. furious & ecstatic without sacrificing precision and melody, always in perfect control of his tone, working every sideways shimmer and bleed for maximum stun. check his raging bumblebee buzz on "do the pop", and shit the "descent into the maelstrom" solos rank among the most satisfyingly maniacal gtr blowouts anyone's ever welded to a fistful of stolen surf & berry riffs.

in part, i suppose it's a question of tastes and times. they aren't a particularly heavy band. their groove is practically nonexistent, which cost them when they loosened up on the BOC-indebted living eyes. they snap and twitch more than swing, and their best riffs ("hand of law", "do the pop") jump up and down in place like sugar-buzzed schoolkids.

in his liner notes for the sub-pop compilation, David Fricke says, "we never had a rock and roll band as complete and certain in its sound, mind and agenda as Radio Birdman." and i love his writing, but i don't know about that. one of the things that makes RB so satisfying for me, and perhaps part of what keeps others on the fence, is their lack of cohesion. they want to kick ass and blow doors like the stooges and the MC5, but they're torn by their devotion to sunny melodic pop, bleary comedown blues, and wiry punk. they live & die by showy glam guitar heroics that went out of fashion at least 20 years ago, and even at their best, they're working through (and okay sometimes recycling) a very small handful of fine ideas.

still, this is some of the best damn rock and roll anybody's ever cut to wax. i fucking love em just for "snake", one of my favorite songs of all time - so sweet & sexy & fast, like summertime forever top down no brakes no cares just GO. great tunes, a distinctive vision & sound, and a hell of a lot of fun to listen to. easily deserving a place of honor alongside the other, now more celebrated bands mentioned in this thread.

I dunno if I've got the remixed version or not but Living Eyes is totally great.

i'd agree now, maybe without the totally?, but for years i rated it more interesting than successful. think if it'd had just a couple more tracks like "455 sd" (another of my all-time favorite songs) & "burn my eye" i'd have forgiven all sins. always been a sucker for the crocodile rock.

These guys were fucking awesome. I agree with the above post about "Snake" another great one is "I-94" partially because I grew up right off I-94.

Birdman's "greatest hits" or whatever its called that came out on SubPop about a decade ago is spectacular workout music. And drinking music.

Love this band.

I can confirm it's great drinking music, that Sub Pop thing was the first "new" vinyl I ever bought, back when it first came out.

Tek was a true master of his craft

yay, i get to spend more money

StanM, its a documentary, on WEA Aus.

BOC isn't on it, don't know if they are mentioned I've not played it all but the script is on the back.

Produced at budget price, AU$6.95 or so.

Box set just arrived, 7 CDs and a DVD. It's going to be a fun week immersing myself.

Open question: which tracks were re-recorded for the Sire version of "Radios Appear" and which are the same?

I think there were only a couple - New Race and Love Kills maybe? But I just got the box myself and haven't immersed myself enough to say for sure. I didn't even know the CD I had of Radios Appear was a combination of the Sire and Trafalgar versions until recently.

Thanks for the revive, forgot all about this & luckily not sold out yet.

Details here
http://www.musicfarmers.com/product/radio-birdman_radio-birdman-box-set_cd/

Where is "If I Wanted To" from the 1995 "Living Eyes" reissue? Does it have a different name in the box?

Man With The Golden Helmet and Love Kills maybe? Sorry I don't know for certain either.

"If I Wanted To is a notable absence" - maybe because it was a cover song, licensing issues perhaps?

http://www.i94bar.com/news/first-sighting-radio-birdman-box-set-tracklisting

Ok, not a cover song apparently. No idea then.

Which of the post-Birdman albums are the cream of the crop?

^^^ This is a really good question, actually! I've always wondered that myself.

i think the visitors s/t is great, new christs distemper is supposed to be p good though i haven't heard it in full

New Race - "The First And The Last" is classic and scorchio.

This box set looks awesome

I once played in a band that did a cover of a Deniz Tek song: Breaking My Heart, Breaks My Heart, something like that? I think that was a New Race song rather than R. Birdman.

Birdman did Breaks My Heart

Ah right, good song!

Do check out the New Race version of Breaks My Heart as well, though.

... yeah, I think that's where I first heard it!

I'm expecting the box set tomorrow.
However, dear Radio Birdman, with all due respect, I don't think I'll be needing too many re-remastered versions of the same 30-odd songs again in the near future.

1988 2CD Under The Ashes (WEA/Trafalgar)
2001 The Essential Collection (Sub Pop)
2002 Europe 2003 4CD Tour Pack (Trafalgar/Citadel)
2014 this box set

(Don't tell me the 1988 book has been rewritten after the reunion too - the old one's pages are yellowing a bit by now)

Twelve years in the 2000s might as well be a century!

they're doing at least one show next march at the golden plains festival in victoria - no chris masuak though, "due to personal differences with Rob Younger"

http://2015.goldenplains.com.au/whos-playing/radio-birdman/

I'm totally not sure yet which remaster I prefer to be honest - the CITCD550/CITCD551 4CD Euro Tour set or this new one.
Think I'm even going to re-rip that Under The Ashes 2CD and the SubPop compilation just to have them all next to each other.

"due to personal differences with Rob Younger"

who doesnt have personal differences with Rob Younger?

Just ordered the box; got an email saying that Citadel is closed until November 5. Some kind of weird Australian holiday? Oh, well. I can wait.

lol

The box set is great. Some genuinely surprising alternate arrangements, various different versions, mixes and demos, a tantalising but very short glimpse of their live performances on the DVD, but the real gem for me is the Paddington concert. Yeah hup!

closed until November 5. Some kind of weird Australian holiday? Oh, well. I can wait.

hitch-hiking to Melbourne for the Cup obv

I think I have a problem with the box set I got.

To anyone who has the new box set: do you have a ticking sound in the intro of some of the remastered tracks too? Murder City Nights, for instance - both the Sire and the Trafalgar versions have it, but the 2001/2002/earlier versions didn't. It's not a hi-hat, since it's not in the same place. It's not my CD player, it happens on more than two.

The first five seconds of Murder City Nights. I mean those vertical lines in the 2014 ones:

citcd550, 2002 : http://i61.tinypic.com/5u4dqa.jpg
citcd579, 2014 : http://i58.tinypic.com/25zij4i.jpg
citcd580, 2014 : http://i57.tinypic.com/2u4rclg.jpg

I don't hear any ticking on mine.

I've mailed Citadel about it but haven't received a reply yet - I don't suppose Amazon UK will feel they're responsible for misprints if I just send it back

Thanks for checking though - xpost

Just paid for my copy of the box last night - won't see it for 2-3 weeks.

Aaaaaand the box arrived in this morning's mail—12 days after payment/shipment. Not bad turnaround time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQEiFEQq0zQ

Found the reunion cd 'Zeno Beach' a couple of months back. That is a good record. "The Brotherhood of Al Wazah" was my favorite tune.

the Birdman doco Into The Maelstrom is now free to stream on Tubi, in territories that have it, and price dropped to $1 rental or $4 purchase on Vimeo everywhere, to be nice to people that can't Tubi.

i would not want to live in a world where i couldn't tubi

also the doc is really good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ-tc29TRAs

Big ol' interview with Tek:

https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2023/03/radio-birdman-interview-deniz-tek.html

ooh thanks. A new solo album with Fleshtones drummer and a European tour

Album might have been out in 2022 but I forgot that

Keith Streng is actually the Fleshtones' guitarist. Maybe he can play drums too?

Apparently Streng can if the Bandcamp listing for the latest solo album is correct, but an earlier Bandcamp item for a prior Tek release says Streng is on guitar

November 7, 2022 release

Deniz Tek - Guitars, vocals, harmonica
Anne Tek - Guitars
Keith Streng - Drums, percussion, backing vocals
Bob Brown - bass

2018 release
Deniz Tek - guitars
Ric Parnell - drums
Bob Brown -bass
Ron Sanchez - keyboards

with special guests :
Keith Streng (Fleshtones) - guitar

https://www.twintonedigital.com/full-time-men

"Keith Streng - Drums, Bass, Acoustic Guitar, Electric Guitar, Vocals, Percussion"

he plays strengs and stecks for deniz tek.