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Everyone I know liked Help the best, even though the Beatles themselves hated it. "Hard Days Night" was more a drama-documentary. The Joe Orton screenplay went unfilmed. The cartoon series had put the beatles off doing the voiceover for the "Yellow Submarine" film, until they saw it was actually good and so they did a bit at the end for it. And "Let it be" is interesting but you could only watch it twice before getting bored of it.

So, should they have made more? Should they have done an elvis about it?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

'Let It Be' every time. I have never got bored with it and have watched it more times than I care to remember.

While you're at it, what about adding the Lord of the Rings idea that didn't get off the drawing board.

Was the Orton thing the one where they were different parts of someone with multiple personalities or was that another idea that never made it?

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

"A Hard Day's Night" (he's very clean, isn't he?) is one of the most enjoyable movies of all time. I'm proud to say my five-year-old has seen it dozens of times, primarily for his beloved George. The scene where George undergoes teenspeak marketing research is deft and true, and the way the four Beatles are defined by personality marked them for their immortal lives. "Help!" should have a DVD release this year.

Taylor, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

'how i won the war'

N_RQ, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

Yellow Submarine has always induced in me something akin to car-sickness, but my 2 1/2 year old daughter loves it. The DVD is in VERY heavy rotation here. It's the perfect primer/indoctrinator. She's always naming the Beatles... I ordered her the action figures (for real, incl. a Blue Meanie) a couple weeks ago.

"Daddy, what's that?"

"Oh, that's just an umbrella with a hot dog head, he's eating a purple mountain goat."

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

magical mystery tour????

josh w (jbweb), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

AHDN is a fantastic movie, so much there there that one wouldnt expect. im currently watching for my "rock and roll sublime" class right now. we did a shot by shot analysis of the opening credits and it blew my mind.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

xpost Damn you're right.

OK
http://www.christiewalsh.com/fun/beatles/mmtbus.jpg

I got the video, and watched it when we got back from the Trafalgar square poll tax demonstration. To wind down.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Search: "A Hard Day's Night"
Beat Up: "Help!" It's rather forced.
Destroy: "Let it Be." Incoherent, headache-inducing.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

here's a great review of AHDN by roger ebert:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19961027/REVIEWS08/401010326/1023

im sure many know this, but ebert teaches a graduate level seminar on the movie.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Hard Days Night -- I'm with Taylor: absolute brilliance, and George's drawling lines are priceless. "I'm quite prepared for that eventuality." "She's a drag. A well-known drag."

Help -- I'm with Alfred: a little forced & hoky. Some good bits, though (Ringo: "They loom large in me legend.") and long on, um, "period charm".

Magical Mystery Tour -- The jury's out until I can finally watch a decent print. I waited for years to see this, only to have it ruined by a crappy, grainy, midnight-movie screening accompanied by constant voice-over from the weed-headed doofuses I went with.

Let It Be -- I'm with Guilty: fascinating as a dozen reality TV series. I pick out new details with every viewing, but then I've been known to obsess over hours of Get Back bootleg tapes, too. Still, I think it's a great movie, and praise to McCartney for even attempting the project.

brianiac (briania), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

(Ringo: "They loom large in me legend.") I'm sure that's HDN!

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

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Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, you're right Mark. Dock a point from Help.

brianiac (briania), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Help rocketh, if only for the contributions of Leo McKern and Victor Spinnelli.

Gooooo.... tooooo.... the window....

Degree in woodwork. I ask you.

Fiendish thingy!

The miniaturized George scene is forced and hokey. The bit with the houses is forced and hokey. But the opening scene kills me every time: "Whose name is terrible, whose name is baleful, whose name is the black mother, mother of darkness, whose embrace with Rama made the whole world tremble...."

The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

While it may indeed be a haplessly directionless bit of hallucinogen-fueled, masturbatory idiocy, I quite love Magical Mystery Tour. The surreal footage of "I Am the Walrus" alone makes it worth viewing.

Second place goes to Yellow Submarine (though are those indeed their voices?). I've sadly never seen Let it Be. Help was entertaining, as I remember. Never saw Hard Day's Night either.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

I love the constant mocking of Ringo in Help! "Look what youve done to Paul!" and the bit where theyre debating his need for fingers at Scotland Yard, etc are dead funny. AS is John's almost cruel mocking of the scientist and jewler. But it oes on for ages and is a bit forced. I've always wanted a bed in the floor since seeing it a child, though.

For sheer slappy, clever banter and such I'd have to take AHDN. I saw it in a theater in college and couldn't help but laugh out loud the whole time. Something about them just being sooo big. I wrote a little song ages ago based on hanging out with Paul's grandad ("hes not quite nice, but hes a clean old man/but we know hes out tonight having his way withour money" cant remember much else ill post if i can)

I've never made it all the way throuh MMT. I love the soundtrack album and do enjoy it in pieces, but its just hard to roll with as a whole(even with chemical enhancement)

b b, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

No, (Alex NYC xpost) the voices aren't. One was a binman in coronation street, one was Lance Percival, and one was an AWOL squaddie. (True).

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

On looking, I find..
But the actors for the cartoon series were Lance Percival (Paul & Ringo) and Paul Frees (John & George). Their voices are recognizable in other Saturday AM cartoons of the period. The actors for Yellow Submarine voices are John Clive (John), Paul Angelis (Ringo), Geoffrey Hughes (Paul) and Peter Batten (George).

So, Lance was the cartoon series. Oops.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Still not seen Help, one day. A Hard Day's Night *is* a great film and I'd actually much rather watch that again than listen to any random Beatles album. However, that judgment applies even more strongly to Yellow Submarine -- slam bang wonderful and all the more so for being a high profile example of an English-language non-Disney animated film -- and thank heavens for that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

"Help!" should have a DVD release this year.

is this confirmed? If so I should sell my old one while I can still get a bunch of dough for it. Although apparently the AHDN dvd release out now has fucked up 5.1 sound that is terrbile and the earlier version is much more prized, so I should probably keep this old Help DVD.

Anyway, yeah, AHDN: utterly classic and amazing. Help: well, it LOOKS great, the sets are cool, the clothes are awesome, the songs are good, the story is goofy. MMT: I haven't seen this in 20 years. I remember being really disappointed with it when I was 13. Let it Be: also, haven't seen this in ages. Yellow Submarine: classic, if not for the story, then for the weird peripheral characters (that sheep thing; the backgrounds in the Elenor Rigby sequence).

I have not seen Candy or the Magic Christian, Ringo's late 70's films. Verdict?

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

that should be, Ringo's early 70's films.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Late sixties, you mean.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

it was a crazy time, man!

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

oh..ive seen the one where hes a caveman...it has like 6 lines of dialog total....

b b, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
"Leslie Jackson? I saw your father at the old Empire back in nineteen hundred and nine. Ah, if you're anything like him son, you're all right."

Run Ruud Run (Ken L), Sunday, 24 September 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

Based on George's performance in AHDN, I wonder why they never thought of putting him in any other movies, aside from cameos in those that he financed.

Run Ruud Run (Ken L), Sunday, 24 September 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

"I fought the war for your sort"
"I bet you're sorry you won."

If anyone is looking for decent copies of MMT, I got one at Borders for $10. It's actually kind of shady looking...all region, ugly packaging, but whatever. Let it Be and Help I got on eBay...bootlegs for sure.

musically (musically), Sunday, 24 September 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

And the part of AHDN with John and that woman by the staircase is the best part of the whole film.

musically (musically), Sunday, 24 September 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

Haven't seen MMT or Let it Be, but as charming as Yellow Submarine is as a period piece, A Hard Day's Night has this in the bag so easily it's not even funny. Beautifully shot, fantastic songs, and a air of fun that doesn't come across as forced at all in the way of Help!. So, so many classic bits, although I think my favorite will always be "He filled his head with notions, seemingly." George is marvelous throughout.

Waiting for Blount to leap to the defense of Help! though....

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 24 September 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

six years pass...

An extended interview with a 60-ish British woman, with a lot of photos mixed in--very sweet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XQ90_dqTXo

Some Beatles music, but mostly they use the originals of songs later covered: "Chains," "Honey Don't," "Boys," etc. Freda's almost apologetic for telling her story (and it is primarily her story, although of course you get some of the band's too--but more things like "Hey, the Beatles had Beatle parents"); she resisted for a long time, but wanted to get this done for her grandson. She has all of four boxes of memorabilia up in her attic, having given most of it away in '74. (She expresses only mild regret.) Most amazing thing is that she was there at the beginning, and was still there past the end.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:40 (twelve years ago)

She calls the drummer "Richie"!

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 01:42 (twelve years ago)

Just like Dave Edmunds and Carl Perkins.

The O RLY of Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 02:19 (twelve years ago)

Why would she call those guys Richie too?

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 02:20 (twelve years ago)

I saw an amazing documentary called Beatles First US Visit some years ago. All behind the scenes footage shot for their archives by, I believe, the Hard Day's Night folks. Really amazing stuff. One of the best films I've seen of them in any form.

Most of it is on Youtube, but looks like Apple blocked the first two segments. So best bet is to rent it. Highly recommended if you haven't seen it. Some remarkably candid stuff from their early days. Not something I had seen outside of books and imagination.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 08:10 (twelve years ago)

I believe that "first us visit" thing is a reedit of a TV doc by the Maysles bros. who of course later did Gimmie Shelter.

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 08:34 (twelve years ago)

The First US Visit is fun - esp nice to see George actually enjoying himself around the press.

Darin, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:42 (twelve years ago)

three years pass...

Saw a trailer for Eight Days a Week yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fFyZzqPDws

The footage will be great, and I usually like hearing Paul and Ringo now. I wish it were directed by someone other than Ron Howard.

clemenza, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 06:27 (nine years ago)

title suggests a sequel (The Studio Years?) can't be far behind? is Howard trying to remake Anthology?! can't hurt like seeing as the original glacial unwieldy beast is far from loved by anyone these days, even fans. isn't even out on Blu Ray.

piscesx, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 09:16 (nine years ago)

really ? I didn't know the Anthology was considered bad. I thought it was like the definitive video since it involved everyone (except JL of course) and was made with all the material they had.

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 10:52 (nine years ago)

seven years pass...

On the way from the beloved American Beauty director:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/20/entertainment/beatles-biopics-sam-mendes/index.html

clemenza, Friday, 1 March 2024 16:04 (one year ago)

yuck. that guy is such a hack.

budo jeru, Friday, 1 March 2024 16:15 (one year ago)

I got sucked into watching Birth of the Beatles on YouTube recently. It’s so inaccurate, but has its charms.

timellison, Friday, 1 March 2024 18:24 (one year ago)

one year passes...

And now...

https://stereogum.com/2487085/first-look-at-the-beatles-actors-in-character-revealed/news/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 January 2026 00:42 (five days ago)

Did you get around to seeing "Help" yet, Ned?

Mark G, Friday, 30 January 2026 17:14 (five days ago)


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