The Strokes are back! back!! back!!!

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Well almost.

New LP in the bag already...

http://www.nme.com/news/112530.htm

piscesboy, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

Almost two years on from the last one != 'already'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

hum... in the instantly accessible/"downloadable" world that has become ours, january 06 is so far it seems almost unreal...
so i can't even start to get curious/excited over this !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

WE NEED A CARE-O-METER ON HERE, STAT!!

Jetlag Willy (noodle vague), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

This thread will be a million miles long some day, so I'm posting so my name goes in the history books.*

*and maybe in the next copy of da capo!

deej., Wednesday, 1 June 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

All I can say is.. YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

elgolfo (elgolfo), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

All I can say is.. MEH.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

I never understood all the hatred for the Strokes. Out of all the truly awful bands out there, why pick on them? They're a great band.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I don't hate The Strokes, I just think 1 album was enough.

Jetlag Willy (noodle vague), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

well who knows, maybe they'll change things with this album.... maybe it's a double concept album celebrating stepping and god...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

How many minutes of music would be on a Strokes double album?

mnm, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

errr... as many as on a R-kelly EP ?

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

I think it's irrelevant for them to progress or change. You could argue they wouldn't be the same band if they did. I just think Is This It was their defining statement that I don't need to hear repeated every 2 or 3 years.

Jetlag Willy (noodle vague), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

I haven't listened to "is this it" for ages... (and i've really loved it when it came out). i think i'd rather listen to "room on fire" every now and then.
but yeah, i can't really see what they could do to change...and what would be the point of a part3...
hence the challenge !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Room On Fire was a better album than Is This It?

Popli Kid, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

how much do you think The Strokes would charge to make the album described in that fake Last Plane to Jakarta write-up of Room on Fire?

I'd pay just about any price.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

well, that's my point of view... let's say my fav strokes songs are on is this it (hard to explain mainly) but as a whole, i prefer room on fire.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

how much do you think The Strokes would charge to make the album described in that fake Last Plane to Jakarta write-up of Room on Fire?

oooh yeah, that one was great !
I'd definitely want to hear that album. i don't think their fanbase would understand tho'...
that'd be their special album for ILM.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

"stepping and God"?

Only if by "stepping" you mean the dance routines practiced by African-American frat members. How crazy (and potentially great) would that be?

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Is This It was one of the greatest albums ever made, and Room on Fire was one of the worst. If this album is as bad as the last one I will never even THINK of listening to another Strokes record ever again.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Is This It was one of the greatest albums ever made, and Room on Fire was one of the worst.

i have to disagree with both statements !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

I was really excited by the Strokes' first CD and they were great live in 2001. But the second release showed absolutely no growth, and live they became the Julian Casablancas show (how many different ways can you look cool holding a microphone?). I've totally lost interest.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Is This It was one of the greatest albums ever made, and Room on Fire was one of the worst.

The left hand side of this spot-the-difference game is one of the greatest pictures of all time, but the right ---!

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

The albums sound pretty different to my ears, with both being really good, Room on Fire being better, and yes, showing growth, not that it matters.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

For me, The Killers solved the problem of The Strokes by adding a rhythm section. The Strokes have better songs on the whole, probably -- I only know the Killers' singles -- but not that much better. Hire a drummer, for god's sake.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

I like drum machines.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Is This It = The Cars s/t
Rooms on Fire = Candy-O

I prefer the latter.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

I like drum machines fine. A good drum machine would be an improvement over their shitty drummer.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

They use a drum machine on quite a lot of tracks though. All the best ones anyway (Hard To Explain).

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

The Bravery is going to make The Strokes obsolete by the time the third album is released. The Strokes will be forced to re-record their album in a "nu-Britpop" manner in order to keep up with the U.S. hipsters...

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

For me, The Killers solved the problem of The Strokes

The only issue I'd take with that is that the Killers wholly and completely suck.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

I still kind of love the Strokes, and for me they seem to be the only one of "those" bands who strive to create something of a unique sound. I'm sure a lot of people won't agree with that, though. To me, they sound like delicately wasted hipsters crooning along fronting a lounge band playing toy instruments. They think they rock, but they don't. Best imagined in the corner of a dank, near empty, bar.

Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

As far as big bands go i'd take them over coldplay. Much more entertaining live, and in general, whereas Chris Martin can eat a big fat dick with his Apple, writing on his hand, U2 aping arena shit.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm still surprised when people don't notice the growth on the 2nd album..are people that bogged down by production aesthetic? Suedey is OTM with his description (and I believe if there had been no blowup, more people would think of them this way)...there's a certain jealousy that seems to come as a reaction to their smugness, but its The Strokes' own misconception of reality (or Julian's at least) that makes them so appealing...they've created a world of their own (jokers will say this world is The VU, Television) that seems impervious to outside influence...Weezer did this with their first 2 albums...arguably The White Stripes succeed for this reason (though I haven't heard the new one)....The Killers and The Bravery, on the other hand, reek of hackery - not even in the same category as The Strokes

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

the killers are horrible and i'm really looking forward to the strokes' third.

The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

jody otm as per

g e o f f (gcannon), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

The Killers and The Bravery, on the other hand, reek of hackery - not even in the same category as The Strokes

For sure. And the Killers most likely do suck. I only know the singles, like I say. BUT...in their hackery, especially on "Somebody Told Me" which I think is a fine piece of top 40 goo, they at least got the idea to put a little groove in it. Dissing the Strokes is tedious and beside the point at this point because who cares, but all I'm saying is that the major obstacle for me with them has always been their reluctance or inability to, like, move a little. A good rhythm section could have made them a good band.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

As usual, I'm looking forward to new Strokes material.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

i hope the new album has a decent-looking cover. i'm convinced that's what doomed the last

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

i cannot wait for this. i predict loving it, whether its a subtle departure, radical departure, or just more songs that sound like the first two albums, which DO sound different, but in this totally tasteful way, where its very clear to me that the strokes are wholly self-assured and confident in their sound and approach.

ive said it around here before - i think the strokes are conservative in the best way possible. for my money, theyve made two of the best, most replayable albums of the past 10-20 years, with almost no filler. i just cant forsee not loving the next thing they do.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

I liked both albums. I just wish they'd loosen up a bit for their live show.

giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

i sort of agree with suedey - their rock-tendencies, while definitely present, seem subordinate to their songcraft-tendencies.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

i never quite got how people think the strokes are jsut VU or television fascimilies, yes theyve borrowed SOME things, but they dont write songs like those guys, are more pop-song based, write better pop-rock songs than either of those bands, and they have actually got their own sound, you know. if they didnt, we wouldnt say 'they sound just like the strokes!' all the time, would we? its sheer critical stupidity and laziness that allows people to say the strokes sound identical to the stooges (like fuck they do), VU and television.

percypisspantyliners, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Have we done a TS: Killers vs Strokes thread yet?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

i mean - there ARE some similarities to VU and TV. i think this fits with what i think about them, in general. they are not terribly gimmicky, and they have a really traditional lineup. nothing about their sound is really extreme, except that their songs are EXTREMELY well-written and well-crafted. i think the fact that a lot of what is written about the strokes in the press is this game of spot-the-influence is related to critics' search for a clear, exciting angle. theyre good songs, and my feeling is that the band likes to let these good songs speak for themselves. theyre not even as active on the NY scene as they were 2 years ago - theyre going to boil all this down to awesome songs, and think its pretty cool that way...

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Yes. And?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

theyve made two of the best, most replayable albums of the past 10-20 years

This is the sort of statement that begs for a very long list of better, more replayable albums released since 1985. Unfortunately, I can't post that list, since I am currently too busy rolling on the floor laughing my ass off, wetting my pants and scaring the neighbors.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

ok, now that youve probably stopped LOLing and wetting your pants and have probably cleaned up, how about that list?

perceepisspants, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Their first album had that something.. I can't quite explain it,. but it's there. Room on Fire had a few great tunes, but even those lacked that something. Here's hoping that this new record finds whatever they lost. Could this be their London Calling? Or, perhaps Rocket to Russia would be a more appropriate comparison to draw. Anyway, here's hoping.


They like Crazy Town, though. That's like -10000 points.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

its sheer critical stupidity and laziness that allows people to say the strokes sound identical to the stooges (like fuck they do), VU and television.

Well, we can all agree on that.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

hum... in the instantly accessible/"downloadable" world that has become ours, january 06 is so far it seems almost unreal... so i can't even start to get curious/excited over this !

but in the instantly accessible/downloadable world that has become ours, january 06 means "most people you know will have it on their ipods by august 05" so this is in fact a perfect time to get curious/excited over this. if, that is, you are the type who gets curious/excited over a new strokes album.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

i'm stoked for the strokes!

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

after rooms on fire and all the current rock nonsense, the strokes now seem like underdogs. i look forward to their third with interest.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

interpol on the other hand, i can't say as much for.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

That the band seem to have become the John the Baptist to the 'new scene' while apparently disappearing into the background is however amusing to me.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), June 2nd, 2005.

they've been wandering around naked eating grasshoppers.

latebloomer: Pain Don't Hurt (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

M-E-H

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 2 June 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

I read an interview with Klosterman a year or so back where he talked about the Strokes as a sort of media-specific phenom, as in the band were loved/worshipped/put on tons of magazine covers but ultimately nobody really bought the albums on, say, a U2-level – instead of following the buying public, crits tried to lead, and failed.

I’d agree that the first record had that SOMETHING. I found myself liking it despite my best efforts to resist; whereas the second one I had to WORK to like it.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 June 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

but in the instantly accessible/downloadable world that has become ours, january 06 means "most people you know will have it on their ipods by august 05" so this is in fact a perfect time to get curious/excited over this. if, that is, you are the type who gets curious/excited over a new strokes album.

true, august 05 seems a lot more excitable. so i'm willing to get excited if someone's got it within 2 months !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
The Strokes Are Fired Up
New York rockers are putting the finishing touches on their third album

The Strokes have finished recording their third album, which they are mixing with studio whiz Andy Wallace. The album is due out in January.

"I don't wanna go overboard," says singer Julian Casablancas, sitting on a stoop on Fourteenth Street in Manhattan, "but I'm pretty excited. It's like a seedless watermelon -- I like it."

With no deadlines hanging over them in the studio, the Strokes had plenty of time to perfect the tunes, which feature Casablancas' voice front and center for the first time. Highlights of the fourteen songs include Casablancas venting on "Razor Blade" with the cutting line "My feelings are more important than yours"; guitarist Albert Hammond Jr. ripping into a solo on "Vision of Division" sounding like Dick Dale on crack; and the starkly beautiful "Ask Me Anything" (which came to the singer in a dream), featuring only Casablancas' vocals, and Mellotron courtesy of guitarist Nick Valensi.

Casablancas is racking his brain for the album's title and artwork. But he feels like a weight has been lifted off his shoulders. "I'm relaxed now," he says. "Almost done."

The band is revving up for a larger tour than the one following the previous album. "We were a little road-weary after [2003's] Room On Fire, so it was light," says Casablancas. "Now I think we're ready for fatal touring again -- to go all out. We got our energy back."


http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/7401616/thestrokes?pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single1&rnd=1119119086834&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1059

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 18 June 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I have a feeling this album is going to be awesome.

That One Guy (That One Guy), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

i have a feeling this album will be SOS

knocknock, Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

instead of following the buying public, crits tried to lead, and failed.

OTM. this is what will happen to M.I.A. as well.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

SOS

Shit On Sandwich?

The S.O.S. Band?

donut e-goo (donut), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

I'd be stoked for the Strokes as well, if it was the latter!

donut e-goo (donut), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

instead of following the buying public, crits tried to lead, and failed.

OTM. this is what will happen to M.I.A. as well.

-- joseph cotten (josephcotte...), June 18th, 2005.

see also: big industry "electronica" push circa '97

latebloomer: We kissy kiss in the rear view (latebloomer), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

We kissy kiss in the rear view

Hahahahahaaaa is that from Bush?!

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

can they keep the interest?
i 'm not convinced

zach, Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

"I'm pretty excited. It's like a seedless watermelon -- I like it."

Wow!

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

i guess he likes his watermelon seedless

That One Guy (That One Guy), Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

We kissy kiss in the rear view

Hahahahahaaaa is that from Bush?!

-- joseph cotten (josephcotte...), June 18th, 2005.

hhahaha yeah that bush thread kinda got me laffin' at those ol' lyrics

latebloomer: We kissy kiss in the rear view (latebloomer), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

"but I'm pretty excited. It's like a seedless watermelon -- I like it."

So, it's a genetic mutation of a normal album with all the black seeds taken out without only a shred of white seeds left in.

Sounds par for the course.

donut e-goo (donut), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

It's like they want to aim for Oasis-level autohype without the actual sales to justify it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 June 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

The Strokes need strong singles. That's what killed Room On Fire's popularity. Had it been the exact album with 2 singles as strong as the ones on Is This It, it would be better appreciated by those who hate it. (Not me though, I really enjoy both Strokes records.)

For real though, working with what they had, they should have waited longer before releasing the 2nd single from Room On Fire, because "12:51" didn't get the exposure it deserved, and "Reptilia" got a little too much exposure. And the third single should have been "Under Control."

billstevejim (billstevejim), Sunday, 19 June 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

Meet Me in the Bathroom should've been a single. Should've been the first or second.

Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 19 June 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

The Strokes need strong singles. That's what killed Room On Fire's popularity. Had it been the exact album with 2 singles as strong as the ones on Is This It, it would be better appreciated by those who hate it.

Hmm. Had they actually pressed it on vinyl and released it at the same time, some people who had liked them from the start may not have given up and bought something else.

Yes, I am fickle, but late vinyl releases really piss me off.

3underscore (___), Sunday, 19 June 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

The Strokes need Pat Collier to produce them. He'd make them real special.

James, Monday, 20 June 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

...which feature Casablancas' voice front and center for the first time.

what?

g e o f f (gcannon), Monday, 20 June 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)

normally they're panned to 10 and 2

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 20 June 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

http://www.brucegary.com/Bruce%20Pictures/Discography/Round-Trip.jpg

miccio (miccio), Monday, 20 June 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

Had they actually pressed it on vinyl and released it at the same time, some people who had liked them from the start may not have given up and bought something else.

I bought it on vinyl right when it came out, and I don't own a CD copy.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Monday, 20 June 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

Rockist. Er, wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 June 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

Anything to piss off the goons (none of whom are here, I should note) who treated the band back in 2001 as the 'return to rock!' -- an idiotic statement on any number of levels.

it seems unfair to judge the band because of their fans and/or the media hype surrounding them, I think...

anyway, I really really like the Strokes and actually like Room on Fire better than the first, so I'm pretty stoked.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 20 June 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

NME's Impressions

You Only Live Once - Of all the songs on the new Strokes record, this one sounds the most familiar. It's got the classic chiming guitars from 'Is This It', plus the soaring pop of 'Room on Fire'. That said, the song immediately distances itself from the band's past endeavours, thanks to the uncharacteristic clarity of Julian's voice. It's been debated for years but the truth is out - he really can sing.

Juice Box - Possible first single. Anyone wondering what The Strokes are going on for record number three, get it right here: imposing bass, crazy metal-head drumming, and weird self-amused guitars, accompanied by Julian's unadorned howl. This song introduces a new band, one not afraid to get loose and loud, and fronted by a lead singer who's as available and exposed as he was once evasive and shy.

TBA1 - One of the standout new tracks, this song is reminiscent of early Strokes songs like 'Hard To Explain'. Albert Hammond Jr and Nick Valensi's guitars chase each other through a tight rhythm, while Julian drawls through lyrics like: "I hate them all" and "I hate myself for hating them". It's a gorgeous mix of cheerful guitars and aching lyrics.

TBA2 - This song is almost operatic. It sounds like it could have been on the Donnie Darko soundtrack as it showcases the band's use of a Pixies-style fast/slow dynamic. Their Casio-esque guitars sound even cuter, and the cuter the guitars sound, the louder and more aggressive the drum and bass seem. The end result is sort of schizophrenic - but in a good way.

Razor Blade - On this track, Nick and Albert's twin guitars play with a Sabbath-like heaviness, then jump back into a loose Strokes solo. 'Razor Blade''s lyrics are some of the best Casablancas has written: "My feelings are more important than yours" he sings, "the world's in your hand or it's at your throat".

TBA3 - One of the most experimental new songs. An initially clean and tight rhythm gives way to a theatrical, crescendo-filled chaos. The band have never been as messy as they are here, but they've developed the skills to pull it off without losing focus.

Ask Me Anything - This song features only Julian accompanied by Nick on a mellotron. The lyrics from the bizzarre ("we named a summer camp after you"), to the amusing ("don't be a coconut"), the suggestive ("we could drag it out but that's for other bands to do") and even the poignant ("Got nothing to give/Got no reason to live/Got nothing to hide/I will fight to survive/I wish I wasn't so shy".) The overall feel is of total intimacy, like The Strokes are playing in your bedroom.

Heart in a Cage - The guitars on this one sound like The Who - dramatic scales and lots of volumes. But the lyrics give it a sense of eerie depression: "I don't want what you want/I don't feel what you feel/I'm stuck in a city but I belong in a field".

Killing Lies - Old-school Strokes with distant vocals. The guitars carry the song, but you can make out "don't think everything is gonna stay the same" from Julian's mumblings.

TBA4 - Currently Fab's favourite song (though he insists they're all his "babies"), this track is the sound of insomnia. Urgent bass and drums underlie post-punk guitars, then the sound shifts to a cavernous echo overlaid with Julian's sleep-obsessed lyrics.

Evening Sun - One of the mellower, this track shows exactly what happens when a young, talented band gets to spend a year tnkering with expensive toys in their studio. The pretty feel of the song is reminiscent of Pavement and the lyrics are classically impenetrable: "They love you or they hate you/They thrill you or sedate you/They don't ever let you be".

Fear of Sleep - This song uses The Strokes' new favourite juxtaposition between happy guitars and big rock drums and bass. It's a slow-fast tirade during which Julian repeats the line "fear of sleep" in everything from a near-whisper to a grating scream.

TBA5 - References to the trappings of fame abound on this waltzy track, during which Julian's voice is so clear and deep it's disarming. Standout lyrics include: "It was all just a dream" and "today they talk about us and tommorow they won't care".

TBA6 - The last of the 13 songs NME heard is one of the best. The lyrics are consistent with the perils-of-fame theme evident throughout ("I can't still see yesterday sailing away"), but here Julian also dabbles in uncharistically outward-looking commentary on his generation's alck of direction, describing "an entire generation that has nothing to say".

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

I love that a song now exists titled "Juice Box."

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

unless they wind up changing it, of course

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

wow, if those descriptions are anywhere near accurate then I'm really going to fall in love with this album. Their songwriting took a huge leap between the last two albums, and if they're really trying to get their sound to catch up with their songs then this could be album of the year.

Fetchboy (Felcher), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

what are "self-amused" guitars?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

guitars that don't care if you get the joke or not?

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

hopefully the other members will get more writing credits this go-round. listening to room on fire recently, "automatic stop" is my favorite track from that album, and it was co-written by julian and albert.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

"guitars that laugh out loud at random times for no apparent reason"

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

it seems unfair to judge the band because of their fans and/or the media hype surrounding them, I think...

I think it's totally fair! Roast them on spits!

Old-school Strokes

This is one of the funniest phrases ever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Old-school Strokes

This is one of the funniest phrases ever.

You new jacks don't appreciate how it was back then, dude....Man, I remember Julian cutting up Bongo Rock at the Bronx River Center back in the day with Kool Herc....Then Fab battled Cowboy from the Furious Five.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

Downtown '01

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Vice Not Vice

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 June 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

They tried again outside in Cedar Park
Power from a street light made the place dark
But yo, they didn't care, they turned it out
I know a few understand what I'm talkin about
Remember Bronx River rollin thick
With Kool DJ Red Alert and Chuck Chillout on the mix
When Afrika Islam was rockin the jams
And on the other side of town was a kid named Flash
Patterson and Millbrook projects
Casanova all over, ya couldn't stop it
The Nine Lives Crew, the Cypress Boys
The real Rock Steady takin out these toys

http://flathat.wm.edu/2003-10-24/strokes.jpg

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 23 June 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

I love that a song now exists titled "Juice Box."

Skatalites had one called that back in the 60s.

todd (todd), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
January 24th.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

so, we're in august now : have the trax leaked as promised ?

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

I was wondering this today.

Cunga (Cunga), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

January 24th is my birthday; what could this mean?

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)


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