Taking sides; John Lennon's 'Give peace a chance' vs Paul McCartney's 'Freedom'

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Two of the finest songwriters of the last 50 years end up being remembered for yobbish 'political' chants.

Who is the most persuasive advocate?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Both are platitudinous crap but Lennon wins in this case by actually having a touch of humour about it. Macca loses out by blighting his otherwise exquisite Driving rain.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

I don't know about the "end up being remembered for yobbish 'political' chants" conclusion.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

"When We Was Fab"

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

Taking Sides: "When We Was Fab" vs "Free As A Bird"

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Comparing one of Lennon's better solo singles with some of the worst wank that McCartney has ever produced. C/D

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

it's the beat, y'all

― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Alfred, that's not even a contest. Anything tangentially related to Cloud Nine beats the poop out of "Bird".

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Both entirely dire.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

John's passion makes "Peace" compelling, whereas when I hear Paul yell "FREEDOM!' I imagine that what he's really asking for is 'freedm to smoke lots of weed."

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

I'd go for that but,
Everybody's talking about Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism, This-ism, That-ism, ism, ism, ism

― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

For some reason I can't call the McCartney tune to mind, but I will say that I find "GPaC" utterly boring--draggy and repetitive in a bad way. (That is, the tempo's not inherently problematic, and repetition isn't inherently problematic, but the melody is insufficiently interesting to render the thousand choir-laden repetitions of it tolerable.)

"All You Need Is Love" is a hundred times better than "Give Peace a Chance."

― The Mad Puffin, Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Man, "All You Need is Love" is barely a hundred times better than fascism

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

At least 'Give Peace A Chance' was vaguely related to a bunch of things that were actually good, eg the anti-Vietnam war movement, civil rights, etc.

'Freedom', on the other hand, is at best vague to the point of criminal negligence, at worst pretty much a neocon anthem. "We will fight for our right to freedom", post-911, pretty much a gift to Bush & co in terms of rhetoric.

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

"All You Need Is Love" is a hundred times better than "Give Peace a Chance."

Then, comparing John Lennon solo with The Beatles is kind of pointless. I mean, obviously The Beatles will always be better.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

"Give Ireland Back To The Irish" vs. "Woman Is The Nigger Of The World"

― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Personally I've got a soft spot for Give Peace a Chance, 'cos I used to play it really loud when I was a kid and it really made my mother mad ...

― andyjack (andyjack), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

I'll go with Lennon, but i'd rather not listen to either.

― Jockey, Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

TS: Plastic Ono Band vs. Wings

Wait, that's too easy!

― Ian Riese-Moraine's all but an ark-lark! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

well, wings were more successful than POB surely ?
what are the sales figures of wings compared to the beatles' ?

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Wings was the second most successful act in the US of the '70s (Elton was first). Paul's had 8 number-ones, counting solo and collaborations.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

"Happy Christmas (War is Over)" vs "Wonderful Christmastime"

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 2 June 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Julian vs. Heather!

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 3 June 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

"Happy Christmas (War is Over)" vs "Wonderful Christmastime"

BAM!

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

TS: "The Lovely Linda" VS "Oh Yoko"

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Friday, 3 June 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

"Wonderful Christmastime"

my favorite underrated holiday staple

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Friday, 3 June 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

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