WHO HAS THE BEST TASTE IN music ON ilm ?

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besides me

, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

not me, i've got crap taste in music

leigh m, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can we use the good taste=knowing what you like way of measuring it.

Actually come to think of it I don't know enough about what people here like.

Ronan, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

me.

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, I don't know. There are some people with a similar taste to mine, some people who like some absolute shite, and numerous people in between. However, I'd judge the answer on quality of discussion as well as quality of collection...

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Andy Kellman (really!).

Mark, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Arthur knows his shit and likes a lot of the same stuff as me. So him.

Ethan always includes the Beatnuts in his lists, so I'm going to trust him on hiphop. So him.

Ronan is always investigating interesting stuff, and he has a soft spot for country & western. So him.

There's actually nobody here I can think of with crappy taste - I'm not crazy about everything that gets discussed here, but it's generally the most interesting music in whatever genre that gets the most discussion.

fritz, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I would say "me," but that's too obvious.

So I'll say "a guy who acts and dresses very similar to me, who lives in my room."

Gage-o, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Taste is all relative, and like the individual who posted above me said, I don't always agree with the tastes represented on ILM, but I generally tend to respect their ability to string coherent thoughts together (which makes me want to consider giving the bands they espouse a fair shake.) But, still, how can anyone serioulsy defend irrefutable pabulum like Destiny's Child? It boggles the mind.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's at least the 10th time I've seen you use the word pabulum, and each time my annoyance increases. Find a new vocabulary word.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Your post was surprising me, Alex, but then I got to the end and everything was resolved.

Josh, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Xstatic Peace is my GOD

Chupa-Cabras, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Destiny's Child should adopt "IRREFUTABLE PABULUM!" as their tagline.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So you don't like cereal, Alex?

Josh, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Alex is NYC has RAISED HIS STANDARDS!! Unlike the rest of us. So him.

raise your hands up at me, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

poo i mean "throw your hands up at me" (blimey i've been listening to it all afternoon too!!)

yes i am ready for that jelly, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Main Entry: pab·u·lum
Pronunciation: 'pa-by&-l&m
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, food, fodder; akin to Latin pascere to feed - - more at FOOD
Date: 1733
1 : FOOD; especially : a suspension or solution of nutrients in a state suitable for absorption
2 : intellectual sustenance
3 : something (as writing or speech) that is insipid, simplistic, or bland

This is just fair warning that, from now on, I'm going to read "pabulum" exclusively as definition 1.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm also going to wreck a perfectly good joke by messing up an HTML tag, but that's nothing new.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Surely 2 is more applicable to Survivor. Thus:

A. mark s = intellectual (proof by demonstration)
B. mark s = listening to Survivor all day since this thread appeared (proof by asking shellshocked neighbour)
C. mark s = at peak of logical form RIGHT NOW (proof by seeing the nose in front of yr face)

A + B + C => 2. QED.

mark s, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(Mark R is unaware of my Bang Tango bootleg collection.)

Andy K, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i think mitch lastnamewitheld has good taste, and that isn't mentioned much

gareth, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It really isn't my fault that Destiny's Child fit the definition (#3, that is) so well, but Melissa, in deference to your request,...so be it: Destiny's Child are inarguably worthless drivel, childish din, meaningless flotsam, disposable cheeze-whiz , trivial nonsense, artless rubbish, crass product, etc. etc. ad nauseum.

Still, like I said, taste is relative. If you want to listen to them (which, basically, is tantamount to smearing your aural cavities with tepid, runny excrement), it's your head, after all.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Destiny's Child are inarguably worthless drivel, childish din, meaningless flotsam, disposable cheeze-whiz , trivial nonsense, artless rubbish, crass product[...]

Looks like someone needs to put on his "Happy Face".

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can dislike something and still be insufferably gleeful at the same time. Really. I'm not an unhappy person (unless someone throws on some Desitny's Child.)

Some of you folks take this stuff waaaayyyy too seriously!

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Alex, you missed the joke; "Happy Face" is the title of one of the songs on _Survivor_. Believe me, I'm not taking this seriously at all.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oops. My bad. I shall verily repent by running out and buying the album in question. Or not.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Your bad. Cuz it's top. Tho why is "My Heart Still Beats" annotated "(featuring Beyoncé)"? Does it just mean "(NOT featuring Michelle and Kelly")?

mark s, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(Mark R is unaware of my Bang Tango bootleg collection.)

No, I was talking about growing up on Arthur P. and then rocking the Kompakt -- the Bang Tango boots are the icing on the cake.

Mark, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In avant-cred terms it is quite clearly Mel!

Nitsuh, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

she wuz paving the ground for a solo career.

Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, of course I would list people with similar tastes, like Fritz or Dr. C. or Helenfordsdale or Sean or my long lost CT Cuz Frank Kogan. Because they have EXCELLENT TASTE, obviously. So does Sundar, the lone anti-G'n'R voice 'round these parts. Plus he listens to loads of "avant" stuff I wish I knew more about.

But the people with the most intriguing taste for me are the people who are obsessive about stuff I (usually) haven't heard, like Melissa or Ethan or DeRayMi. Or Nitsuh, Dave Popshots or Ned when it comes to post-Nirvana American Indie I never investigated. Or Jess with regard to post-punk/disco not disco stuff I didn't hear the first time around. Or Tim Finney or Gareth on anything dance-related. Oh, fuck it, you've all got great taste. Bless you all. Everyone make me a mixtape. Thanks.

Arthur, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just know you're talking about SF Sean and not me. But I'll still make you a mix tape anyhow. Just because I'm like that.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

thanks Gareth, I am kinda underrated, aren't I? (insert cute winky emoticon here)

as for *shared* tastes, that list would include Melissa, Josh, Tim, Gareth, Jess and a whole bunch of others.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am still trying to catch up to Mel W's Best of 2001.

On an unrelated note, bashing Alex in NYC b/c he goes against the ILM grain is lame. Conflict in tastes within the board is a good thing.

bnw, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

With all due respect bnw, I think he generally bashes first ;)

Tom, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thanks, bnw!

I don't "bash" my fellow ILM'ers, I opine (read: "bash") about artists I think need to be properly trounced due to their bloated overratedness. I can't be helped that people take it personally when something negative is said about a band/artist they happen to like.

alex in NYC, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I certainly hope no one took anything I said seriously.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

whoops....Freudian! IT can't be helped.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

everyone list your entire music collection and then we'll vote on it.

please don't actually do this.

g, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

alex = fun to tease because he responds satisfyingly crossly w/o malice or bad blood: he is the josh of goth heh

surely there is no bad blood on either side?

also it is amusing that his FAVOURITE EVAH GROUP so greatly resembles his top hates

mark s, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh really? And just how, pray, does Killing Joke resemble Destiny's Child?

No, never any sincere bad blood from me. Honest!

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, first off both are fronted by Beyonce Knowles...

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(Even if no one else found that funny, I'm giggling enough for THE ENTIRE WORLD...)

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd find the idea of Jaz Coleman singing about his jelly to be more amusing. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bashing bashers for bashing original basher = very Republican; almost = to Republican taunting non-Republican for being intolerant... of intolerance.

Andy K, Wednesday, 30 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Arthur, I'll start on yr mixtape very soon. ;)

Dr. C, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

between them Tom Ewing and Ned Raggett have the best music tastes. together they combine to create some sort of one-headed two-brained pop-loving Autobot.

with shiney bits.

Wyndham Earl, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Best compliment I've had in ages. Tom might protest at sharing his bot body with a Smashing Pumpkins fan, though.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sean Carruthers-sorry for the late response. But yeah, I'd love a mixtape! And a Dr. C mixtape, too-wahoo! I'd be happy to return the favor, if you'd like. I'll e-mail you both my address in a minute.

Arthur, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

this is the funniest thread by far (since i left belgium and am now cracking up in ny). one person menyioned me. i need to collect my legs, arms and few remaining braincells. har har har. i am, in all honesty, the LAST person you should metion. taste can never be zeee best. it shouldnt be. it reeks of snobism and arrogance. i dont want to be part of it. you will see me shaking py ass to puretone and james white.

helenfordsdale, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

have at many points in my ilx career become obsessed with the tastes of a few posters. tim, rev (who i now share a lot in common with, prob not unrelatedly), skot, lex to a certain degree. definitely some others i'm forgetting. table is the table has been killing the rolling punk thread this year, i'm not sure what else he listens to tho. i believe pretty strongly in the benefits of doing this sort of thing, having role models and becoming absorbed into someone else's tastes, new alternate histories and canons. y'know, *expand yr mind bro* and that sort of stuff

This is a great post and a great point. Rather than best or worst I tend to think in terms of ILX posters whose tastes and general approach to music seems like something I could learn from.

I think the right word here might be "sensibility". I'm always intrigued when I start to recognise that someone "hears" something in music that I can't quite hear, even if we both like it, because they have a framework or context which I don't.

Like, deej's Summer Luau Love mixes are a pretty succinct encapsulation of what strikes me as a sensibility of his which I admire, that notion of laidback party music which stretches from DJ Quik rap to smooth house, and which (whatever its genre) tends to fly under the radar vis a vis its "edgier" equivs.

In some ways even if

Tim F, Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

Was gonna say:

In some ways even if I really love a track, if it fits into a sensibility that I associate with someone else I will half-consciously assume that they will have the "definitive" take, in that they will be best positioned or best equipped to recognise what it is the music does well, draw it out and put it on the page.

Tim F, Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

Find myself agreeing with:

Matos
Louis
Tim (half bang-on/half stuff like modern rnb and funky which I can't crack),
Dominique
Emily

Poptimism-into-dance-into-prog.

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

Cutty has got a decent selection of aceness too. Surely?

Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

Alfred has been consistently turning me onto stuff lately, so him

― fried ice cream is a reality (outdoor_miner),

Aww. Thanks! What have you been listening to?

Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:16 (fifteen years ago)

Cutty is the one who used to make ace mixes every now and then?

Moka, Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)

Soto's certainly one of the better writers on the board - I think my movie taste overlaps more with his than my music taste though.

Also, right back atcha Davek! Did you hear DL's new EP? He posted it to that thread I bumped. It's pretty good. (Also have you heard his albums? They're sick)

Anti-Suggest Ban Order (acoleuthic), Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

Hey, I haven't heard the new EP, but heard bits of the albums on Spotify. Some amazing stuff on there like the insane noise-bubblegum techno song, you know the one I mean.

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

'Nous Tombons Dans Elle' - been listening to that one a LOT recently - brilliant tune. Listen to both albums all the way through and let me know what you think.

Anti-Suggest Ban Order (acoleuthic), Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

Soto +1 too for unabashed MIA love.

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

xp tim: ya this is definitely similar to, like, mixtape making and identifying/creating constellations throughout vast swathes of music. before ilx i spent some time on a hip hop forum, and was never really fully satisfied with any of the poster's conception of good rap music. lots of people held value judgments i couldn't chalk up with, and barely any had a real wide scope of stuff they loved. my favourite ilx rap posters appear to know & love many forms of hip hop to varying degrees, but all within a constellation of bumpin shit. that might be a stupid point, there's a lot of rap that isn't bumpin. like, lots. it's weird. just doesn't bump. and people listen to it.

just, like, dudes who've got the ability to see past more traditional and obvious strands of musical dna into more interesting and meaningful aspects of what makes music work. pretty neat stuff

young monet (samosa gibreel), Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:32 (fifteen years ago)

Who is the most vocal about their music taste on ILM?

@( * O * )@ (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:39 (fifteen years ago)

everyone

European Bob (admrl), Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

lex and geir

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 July 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)

only the popular kids.

billstevejim, Friday, 23 July 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)

aahh.. that was answering the initial question.. not "who's loudest"

billstevejim, Friday, 23 July 2010 00:51 (fifteen years ago)

Aww. Thanks! What have you been listening to?

― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn
xpst
If God ever spoke to me through my stereo, I'd hopefully wonder if it was George Clinton before returning it to the shop.-(Alfred
(Happy 69th birfday, btw, Herr George)
that's as good a reference point as any; also, those H&O 1980's records you rep for just hit my mile wide pop streak. but over time i've just noticed a pattern (Lou & GoB's, to name 2) of things we both dig lots. and i think i know what you're talking about when i read you


thankfully someone with eloquence, Tim F, elucidated what i was unable to upthread, i.e. "someone with a similar.. sensibility.. we can learn from".

fried ice cream is a reality (outdoor_miner), Friday, 23 July 2010 01:56 (fifteen years ago)

I've only been on here for a year, so far I've really liked and agreed with a lot of things acoleuthic and Johnny Fever have said. I really like reading Herman G. Neuname's views in the funk listening thread.

I find Lex and Geir's views a little hard to take but I don't think I'm alone with that.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 23 July 2010 01:57 (fifteen years ago)

jon lewis, Mr. Soto, r1o natsume

fidel castro clone (corey), Friday, 23 July 2010 02:28 (fifteen years ago)

actually, now that i think of it, i'd have to say former ilxor's Keith Harris and Rickey Wright. :-(

― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:51 AM Bookmark

Was going to invoke Rickey myself. :-(

Y'all are too sweet btw.

The Reverend, Friday, 23 July 2010 02:40 (fifteen years ago)

Startrekman

chuck entertainment cheese (crüt), Friday, 23 July 2010 02:41 (fifteen years ago)

chuck entertainment cheese

I lol'd

fidel castro clone (corey), Friday, 23 July 2010 02:47 (fifteen years ago)

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080108182941AA2TipE

not everything is a campfire (ian), Friday, 23 July 2010 02:49 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhSHOh9Q8tQ

"the 'e' in 'chuck e. cheese' stands for 'entertainment.'"

chuck entertainment cheese (crüt), Friday, 23 July 2010 02:50 (fifteen years ago)

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_the_e_in_chuck_e_cheese_stand_for

Ejaculate.

Don't eat the pizza. Guess what the main ingredient in the cheese is...?

not everything is a campfire (ian), Friday, 23 July 2010 02:51 (fifteen years ago)

entertainment?

sarahel, Friday, 23 July 2010 02:52 (fifteen years ago)

tim ellison
aaronhz
PEW

buzza, Friday, 23 July 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

let me rank them:

Edward III
pfunkboy
LJ
Ned Raggett
Surmounter
Matos W.K.
HI DERE
some dude
Bill Magill
skot

demons a. real (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:53 (fifteen years ago)

my taste is best cos it's mine

im profound

mittens, Thursday, 29 July 2010 02:00 (fifteen years ago)

someone tell me im deep

mittens, Thursday, 29 July 2010 02:14 (fifteen years ago)

onimo!

Warum habt Ihr mich totgefüttert? (Abbott), Thursday, 29 July 2010 02:55 (fifteen years ago)

Z_S

Warum habt Ihr mich totgefüttert? (Abbott), Thursday, 29 July 2010 02:57 (fifteen years ago)

a bit ago i got really into punk/post-punk, was impressed by something alex in nyc said in some thread, and somehow i found his blog and started reading it. usually he will namedrop like ten bands per post. a lot of the time they are historically important bands that i am ignorant of, not having been alive at the time, so in effect reading his blog is like a musical history lesson u noe.

i hardly listen to any modern music, so to me that is the most valuable thing about reading ilm: the old dudes who heard X album when it came out, who have been listening/appreciating it for 20 years (which is how long i've been alive); who were part of the scene and can draw parallels that i am simply too young and ignorant to be aware of.

20 years may be hyperbole; i don't know how old people here are.

OH SHIT this isn't on topic at all is it. well frankly i am too new here to know who has the best taste. sorry for wasting your time if you read this, i am embarrassed now.

marc iv, Thursday, 29 July 2010 03:06 (fifteen years ago)

hey marc iv, welcome to the board. don't be embarrassed, we all go off topic from time to time. post and post some more as it's a lot of fun.

as far as how old everyone is around here, it's all ages: The ILX user age average Poll

Bee OK, Thursday, 29 July 2010 03:15 (fifteen years ago)

I generally lend an ear to stuff recommended by Sick Mouthy, Ned R., HI DERE, Sotosyn, lex, Lou1s, Tim F., Herman, Matos and plenty of others I'm forgetting. Geir is nuts but I find myself agreeing with his '80s pop tastes (if not particularly his logic in arriving at said tastes) more often than most of us are willing to admit.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 29 July 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)

as i said already, geir has great taste

startrekman has best taste in drum machines

不合作的方式 (r1o natsume), Thursday, 29 July 2010 13:30 (fifteen years ago)

It's kind of hard to not pick people who reinforce your own tastes - for me that would be from Ned R, Hi Dere, pfunkboy, grimly f, trayce, stirmonster, the ATP guy (Jamie?) + also <3 Abbott for sharing the AWK love & being super duper compatible on last.fm.
aldo probably flies under the radar on ILM as he doesn't post much outside the metal threads but I probably share more of my music collection with him than anyone else on here.

Aw man I nearly forgot Bimble! ;_;

shakiraghmac (onimo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

the ATP guy (Jamie?)

^^

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 29 July 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

And, yes... Bimble.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 29 July 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

Much respect for all the gurus and professors at the ILM College of Musical Knowledge, but in terms of breadth and reliability of recommendations, skot is my hero.

Brad C., Thursday, 29 July 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

Sir Milton Parker

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 July 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

Scott Seward, esp. on that disco albums thread. Also Dan Selzer for being the only person other than me (and Klaus Dinger) to like "Neu 4".

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 July 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

Besides people mentioned, Curmudgeon and Upper Mississippi Sh@kedown seem to know what I love before I do.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 29 July 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

aldo def has a lot of the same taste as i have.
tom d has great taste as does shakey mo, but loads of people on ilm have great taste.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 July 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

so in effect reading his blog is like a musical history lesson u noe.

Wow. Thanks, Marc. Please bear in mind, though (as I'm keen to point out these days) that it's it's all pretty subjective. Despite things I may have said here in the past, my word is by no means the law.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 29 July 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

selzer and vahid

balls, Thursday, 29 July 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

xp

Judge Alex in NYC is the law!!!

deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Thursday, 29 July 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

amongst others mentioned, i'd shout for Sleeve and Stormy Davis too

ryugyong skype sex (gnarly sceptre), Thursday, 29 July 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

I know Ned likes a lot of good stuff.
Henrik Frantzon (Acclaimed Music) has posted here and has ace musical taste, but I guess he cannot really be counted as a regular.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

I can tell you who DOESN'T that's for sure

Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)


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