Pet Shop Boys "Miserablism" C/D

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I can't believe this didn't make the "Behaviour" cut. One of the best b-sides ever!

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Agreed. This song is genius.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

"Is is, isn'tism..."

I love how it's one of many PSB songs about Morrissey and how Neil isn't taken with him. "Getting Away With It" is another (yes, it's Electronic, but bear with me...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

great song! it's about morrissey?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Love it - the synth line is so deeply satisfying.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

That this song didn't make it to "Behaviour" and "Only The Wind" did...

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

great song! it's about morrissey?

Either Alternative or the Behaviour rerelease notes has Tennant talking about that, yup.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

wow! i love this song, and now i love it a little more. i knew about "getting away with it", but not this. what other songs take the piss out of moz?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

The music, D (I don't really like it when the PSB get wierd).
The lyrics, C

daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

I remember Tennant said it was also inspired by shoegaze (the attention shoegazers were getting at that time).

daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

UH-OH

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Heheheh.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

Classic. I'm almost a bigger fan of the Moby remix of this that appeared on the flip of the "Was It Worth It?" 12".

I think Neil explains in the liner notes for Alternative that this track was removed at the last minute from Behaviour and replaced with "The End of the World".

Scott Warner (thream), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

I love "The End of the World" - how Tennant's voice seems to float over the beats, mirroring his detachment from his characters, to whom he never condescends thanks to the pain in that same voice.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

I think "The End of the World" is better then "Miserabilism", but the latter is better than many other songs in Behaviour. I agree thought, that "Miserabilism" sounds a bit too wierd for the album.

daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Okay, Neil on "Miserablism" from the Behaviour liner notes -- I should have figured Morrissey-solo.com had these, and they did:

"I think we wrote this in the beginning of 1990, during the shoe-gazing period, when Morrissey was huge as a solo artist. It's another song sort of written from the point of view of being Morrissey - the first song like that being 'Getting away with it', The Electronic single, which I wrote most of the words of. 'Getting away with it' is looking at Morrissey's persona of being miserable and all the rest of it, and saying that he's been getting away with it for years. It's meant to be humorous. 'Miserablism' is a satire, a little like 'How can you expect to be taken seriously?' What bugged me about the shoe-gazers always looking really miserable is that people think someone like that is really serious. It's something that endlessly bugs me in pop music - that someone with the style of being serious is always accepted as being serious. And also that anyone being playful is then not taken seriously, whereas actually being playful is actually more difficult than being 'serious', and possibly can end up being a lot more serious at the same time. The words to this song were inspired by someone telling me that they asked their father on his deathbed what it was like, and he said: 'is is, isn't isn't'. And I thought that was a great quote, and a very kind of miserablist way of looking at the world. There's no romance - the only thing that exists is what really exists."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

And continuing from there:

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Chris: And of course it was quoted by Clinton only a couple of years ago. 'That depends what the definition of 'is' is.' A direct reference to the lyrics of Neil Tennant.

Neil: Anyway, as quite often with us, in the middle bit you get the real sentiment. It sounds a bit pretentious, but it says, "If 'is' wasn't and 'isn't' were/You can't be sure/but you might find ecstasy." We recorded it in Germany for the album. It was meant to sound Giorgio Moroder-ish, Harold Faltermeye thought it should be a single when we doing it and it was on the album until very late in the day. Doing these reissues, we found all the Behaviour half-inch mixes together on huge reel, and you can see where "Miserablism" has been cut out. We decided that it was too jocular. It was mostly Chris who didn't want it. I think it's a really good song.

Chris: It's alright.

Of course I am listening to it now. Weird thing is that the shoegaze echoes in this song musically a bit, all the slow flanging up and down!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

Brilliant. One of their best tracks. The middle section that Neil talks mentions in the quotation above is sublime. The way they seamlessly slide into it and then cut out is flawless. PSB have always had an incredibly deft touch with middle eights. They make it sound so easy.

D. Bachyrycz, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

One of their most classic songs, which is saying a lot. If they took "How can you expect to be taken seriously?" (too obvious, too "ironic," too much of an attempt to have a US hit) off the album and replaced it with "Miserablism," then Behaviour would be an even more perfect album.

In the sleeve notes of the reissues, Neil says the lyric is written "from the point of view" of someone like Moz, which may not exactly equate to making fun of him. Elsewhere Neil has said that he likes Moz, and that the latter's lyrics "are incredibly funny except people don't notice." Or something like that.

Of course, I personally think everyone should make more fun of Moz.

brittle-lemon, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

he's complaining about someone who complains ?

gebbie dibson, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

whoa preach the gospel neil!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

when i read quotes like the above, the PSBs are - for a few glorious moments - my favourite band in the universe.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

they are mine anyway. though I can't think of any other band I listen to regularly and voluntarily.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

ned i was *literally* about to post that exact quote about Clinton from the re-issue sleevenotes, it was the first thing i saw when i saw the thread!

piscesboy, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...
the bit before the middle eight - i always wanted to go up but it goes down and dies out - now given the song i am sure this was on purpose - but had it gone up it could have gone into something a lot more poppy and i think at that point would have made at the very least a super album track if not a single.

garax, Monday, 17 April 2006 20:46 (twenty years ago)

But then, the main reason it didn't make the "Behaviour" cut was it was too poppy already (or, more like, too upbeat)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:54 (twenty years ago)


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