― PB, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)
― PB, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)
BonB
Live at the AlbHall.
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)
Freewheelin' Bob DylanAnother Side of Bob DylanBringing it All Back HomeBlonde On BlondeJohn Wesley HardingBlood on the TracksLove and Theft
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
It's an awesome survey of the man's career. I've recommended it to others, and they found themselves vastly more interested in his music.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)
You know I'm not entirely sure. I enjoy some Dylan songs, but it seems as though I should -- given my entry-level interest in him -- get to know him as well as all those artists -- who I love -- who've covered him over the years....Byrds, Band, Nick Drake, Jeff Buckley -- you know the list.
But, yes Nick, sometimes I want to say fuck it, I hate the fucker's voice, don't bother.
― PB, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)
I'd say get one of his earlier ones next, just because it will be different than the two you already have. I'm a huge fan of Times They Are A-Changin'.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)
― deej.., Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)
?
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
His voice has changed quite a bit from album to album. For instance, his current dessicated croak bears little resemblance to the faux-Guthrie-isms of his youth. Or try "Nashville Skyline" wear he had (briefly) stopped smoking and discovered a whole new register.
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)
― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
...he doesn't like good pop music! 'twas a gentle jab.
― deej.., Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
― Die Emanzipation von Baaderonixx (redukt) (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
Ha. I'm continually amazed by the thread-to-thread memories that people have around here....
― PB, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)
If that's the case it's no crime to just leave it be for a while, but you should come back. I'd keep going, though--Dylan pays such high rewards to listeners that it'd be incredibly foolish to totally write him off for good.
He is a great, great singer, btw. I agree this is not obvious at first, but he's pretty much up there with anyone else in rock as far as vocals go.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)
What you could do is, next time you have a yen to play one of the Dylan records you do have, don't, and go and buy one of the ones you don't instead - this would seem more fruitful than making yourself like him.
― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)
― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
OTM. I wouldn't go as far as Jack White said ("If you don't like Dylan, you don't like music"), but you are missing out on some of the best shit ever done on tape.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
You're missing Dylan and Moby Dick.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)
Being skeptical is nothing to be ashamed of--I've always been on the fence myself. Get some Byrds albums or even try to find the hard-to-get "Lo and Behold," the Coulson, Dean, McGuiness Flint LP of Dylan Basement-era tunes to loosen up...and shit, you got to read "Moby Dick," it's essential novel just like Gogol's "Dead Souls" or "Anna Karina," like that.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)
― Steve K, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)
http://www.mr-agreeable.net/stubbs/default.asp?nc=4271&id=135
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
I don't think it is either. But if you are generally into rock 'n' roll per se, I do think it's odd. I'd say the same thing about the Beatles and the Stones.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)
Not being into Destiny's Child, on the other hand...
― deej.., Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)
― AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)
i guess i'm odd then
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)
http://s26.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1UQ9UKLYQHS2L15CW47LD84RNB
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)
― darin (darin), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)
The worst thing you can do is try to "decode" Dylan. Because there's nothing to get--the songs are not crossword puzzles. They're just basic rock 'n' roll, with a twist--the twist being his vocal delivery and the language he uses. There's nothing inaccessible about it.
It'd almost be better to hear his debut album first, and then move forward chronologically. The first album is almost all covers, and you can focus on his voice and delivery without being bogged down in the "heaviness" of the canonized works. The subsequent moves then all make logical sense.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)
http://sfj.abstractdynamics.org/archives/005434.html
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)
― b b, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)
― Telephonething, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)
― darin (darin), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)
Also, I liked Beefheart (what I had heared) at around 18, but didn't have any until age 37 or so.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)
it's not like you see beefheart on the cover of q or on the radio 2 playlist. so his stuff can still be "discovered."
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew John Littlefield, Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)
exactly. but would that mean they'd have to get in evan to do the harmonica?
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)
pity, i was looking forward to EP displaying his circular breathing, multiphonic saxophonic skills in a new "harmonica" context.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000C4GJ7.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
Michael Moore is among the most accomplished jazz wind players alive. And unless you have very wide musical interests, as well as access to some of Europe's more esoteric labels, such as Moore's own Ramboy, BVHAAST, Between the Lines, and Hat Art, all of whom he has recorded for, you've probably never heard of him. We can be thankful that Amazon.com carries a handful of his recordings (although, alas, none of his Ramboy stuff). During nearly the whole period of the nineties, he lead a remarkable trio variously called Clusone 3, Clusone Three, or Clusone trio, producing about a record a year. Besides Moore, the trio included two of Europe's top improvisers, Han Bennink on drums and Ernst Reijseger on cello. On his own Ramboy label, he has released about 15-20 discs, all of which are certainly worth obtaining if you can find them. I especially like his little big band recording, Available Jelly, as well as a duo recording he did with pianist Alex McGuire, and a thing he did with a Brazilian quartet called Choro Combinado. Besides his own recordings, he was a member of drummer Gerry Hemmingway's group for several years, he continues to play in Misha Mengelberg's Instant Composers Pool orchestra, leads a trio that includes cellist Tristan Honsinger and piano and "Keyolin" (an invented instrument) player Cor Fuhler, and was a member of Thirteen Ways, with Fred Hersch and Gerry Hemmingway. In other words, he keeps busy.
His two main instruments are clarinet and alto sax; he also plays bass clarinet, melodica, and various percussion. He has an instantly recognizable tone on clarinet, unlike anyone else's in the history of jazz. It's very bright and meaty and solid-sounding - though he can also be quite delicate and breathy. His sound is so unique and unlike any other clarinet player (e.g., check out his multiphonics at the beginning of "With God on Our Side") that one wonders what kind of setup he has on his instrument. His alto playing is also completely his own. If one could describe his approach, it might aptly be compared to Michael Blake's tenor sound, again, very solid, somewhat breathy, huge chops lightly worn, "earthereal" (that is, earthy and ethereal at the same time), with absolute command of the entire range of his instrument.
Jewels and Binoculars, which takes its title from a line from a Bob Dylan song, is a disc of all Dylan tunes, save for the traditional song, "Two Soldiers," which Dylan recorded. The most striking thing about the disc is the vast range of emotional territory it covers so effortlessly. The band's MO is a simple one: find the optimal interpretive approach to each song, and, using its characteristic emotive center construct an apposite soundscape and perform variously straightforward or more complex improvizations as are called for on each number. The overall mood could be characterized as poignancy, and this comes through most powerfully on "Pity the Poor Immigrant," "Visions of Johanna," "Dark Eyes," "Sign on the Window," and, almost overwhelmingly, on "Boots of Spanish Leater." There are also strong evocations of dark irony ("With God on Our Side," "Two Soldiers"), wistfulness ("Fourth Time Around"), and crazy blues ("Highway 61 Revisited," "Dear Landlord").
Sound simple? Not at all. The emotional content of this disc is as powerful as any I've ever run across, which is amazing for a record that features such spare instrumentation. One can only attribute it to the brilliance of the concept and the consummate skill of the players. The band carefully uncovers the heart of each tune, lays it bare, and communicates it directly to the listener with great artistry and sensitivity.
Ravishingly beautiful, impossibly poignant, possessed of the highest level of musical integrity, this is one of the top five disc in my collection of over 3,000 and a wonderful introduction to one of the greatest unheard jazzmen alive.
Very special, and not to be missed.
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr8PZ3ajEWo
Dylan at the recent "Civil Rights" Concert at the White House. Smokey Robinson, the Blind Boys of Alabama, Bernice J. Reagon from Sweet Honey in the Rock, Jennifer Hudson, John Mellencamp and others also performed.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 February 2010 17:29 (sixteen years ago)
After the song, there was an awkward pause, a handshake with the president and a hasty exit.
Chris Richards review from the Washington Post
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/02/at_the_white_house_civil_right.html
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 February 2010 17:34 (sixteen years ago)
Dylan's voice now live versus Taylor Swift's... That should be a poll
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 19:41 (sixteen years ago)
How do I get into Dylan?
Turn left at Springsteen!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 20:31 (sixteen years ago)
i think it helps if you are a black woman
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 20:56 (sixteen years ago)
oh man thanks that was beautiful. lovely bass on that too.
is that song always in 3/4 or did he change it?
― El GarBage (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 21:04 (sixteen years ago)
um, no it was always thus.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 21:09 (sixteen years ago)
good old Tony Garnier
― Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 21:13 (sixteen years ago)
That guy has played bass with Dylan since like 1989! I think he wins the Dylan sideman contest. No one else even comes close.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 21:21 (sixteen years ago)
i think Bob keeps him around just cuz he likes saying his last name: Tony Gaaaahn-yay!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 21:22 (sixteen years ago)
It is nice (which is why I posted it) but I have given up on trying to convince folks that are not music fanatics to listen to Dylan's voice circa 2010.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 22:14 (sixteen years ago)
― Mark G, Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
weird wonder why i never noticed before, i guess the sorta loping bass makes it a lot more explicit
― El GarBage (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 22:26 (sixteen years ago)
well, i mean, the original recording is kinda in Dylan-time, not exactly strict time, it's not super obvious ... But I think most live versions of it do a pretty waltzy thing.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 22:28 (sixteen years ago)
haha dylan time, yeah the early folk ones tend to wander around a bit i guess
― El GarBage (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 22:30 (sixteen years ago)
hattie carroll is the ultimate example of that. try singing along with it.
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 22:37 (sixteen years ago)
to say nothing of clapping along..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 22:43 (sixteen years ago)
Enjoyed his DC gig last night more than the 2 90s gigs I saw. Raspy-voiced renditions of mostly non big songs, largely on piano, but a couple on guitar & sometimes just standing. Could decipher some of the lyrics. Great piano playing & impressive vocals enunciation on “Not Dark Yet” & “Trying to Get to Heaven” from Time Out of Mind. Dylan did 4 songs from Time Out of Mind, 3 from Highway 61, 3 from Tempest; & various others from other albums. I liked when the arrangements drew from honky tonk country & rockabilly better than the blues-rock ones.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 9 December 2019 13:06 (six years ago)