The Unfamous Luther Vandross

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Looking for Luther Vandross appearances before he really hit his stride commercially, which is with "Never Too Much" in 1981 -- two million sold.

I know he was on Bowie's "Young Americans," a couple of Change records, and maybe some Chic stuff, but what other prominent work (backup or otherwise) did he do? (The Cotillion solo records as "Luther" excluded.)

And then what's your favorite?

I'm going with Change's "The Glow of Love"

Rob Uptight (Rob Uptight), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

he did backups on the J.Geils Band's FREEZE-FRAME album, which was just before he hit it big as a solo

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

oh gosh, he is on a zillion records in the 70's. but for the most part, i don't think he really made or broke any records as a backup session singer. with the exception of young americans, a record that he had a bigger hand in making. i could be wrong. i'll check the stacks. his name pops up everywhere in my record collection. i probably do have some where he sings solo.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

He also wrote/produced two of Aretha's better '80s albums, "Jump To It" and "Get It Right.'

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, a good digression would be does anyone know when/why he hooked up with Marcus Miller, and what some of the best resulting songs are... I definitely include "Jump to It" and "Get It Right" amongst those...

Did Miller just play bass or did he have some producer-ish role?

Rob Uptight (Rob Uptight), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Miller is listed as co-writer/co-producer on most of V's late 80s/early '90s stuff.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

He also wrote/produced two of Aretha's better '80s albums, "Jump To It"

Hey Rob, I picked this up for $0.25 at Monday's record fair, and I plan on playing it out Friday night.

Whatchu know about that?!

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Where were the 25 cent records at the record fair? BLARGH!

Rob Uptight (Rob Uptight), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Where were the 25 cent records at the record fair?

Yes sir...stocked up on plenty of hits and some weird things I have no clue about at that table.

(we should move this offlist if it goes further)

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

"Give Me the Reason" from the slightly incongruous soundtrack to Ruthless People is -- despite some dated, 80's production -- one of the most brilliantly subtle, heartbreaking songs I've ever heard, and I love him for it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

He did a nice Christmas song called "At Christmas Time" in 1976, which is on the otherwise forgettable "All-Star Gospel Hits Christmas Vol. 4" collection that came out last year.

Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

"Give Me the Reason" from the slightly incongruous soundtrack to Ruthless People is -- despite some dated, 80's production -- one of the most brilliantly subtle, heartbreaking songs I've ever heard, and I love him for it."

Wow, i didn't see that coming!

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.andwedanced.com/artists/vandross.htm

This has a decent bio (well, comparatively) -- I didn't know he had anything to do with Hi-Gloss. And I have no idea what the band "Roundtree" is...

Rob Uptight (Rob Uptight), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

alex has expressed his admiration for luther vandross (and, i think, sade) on several occasions!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

ALEX IN NOT HATING ALL BLACK PEOPLE SHOCKAH!!!!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

that's not fair, alex. there's not much in your tastes as commonly expressed here that would lead someone to expect you to like luther vandross, of all people.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, george clinton, sure.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Hating Luther == Hating Joy. It's as simple as that.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 16 June 2005 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

"Give Me the Reason" from the slightly incongruous soundtrack to Ruthless People is -- despite some dated, 80's production -- one of the most brilliantly subtle, heartbreaking songs I've ever heard, and I love him for it.
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), June 15th, 2005.

This is my "awww" moment for the day.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 16 June 2005 06:06 (nineteen years ago)

that's not fair, alex. there's not much in your tastes as commonly expressed here that would lead someone to expect you to like luther vandross, of all people.

Sorry, Amateurist, that wasn't directed at you in any sort've mean way. It just buckling against the widely-held perception that I'm simply some sort've one-dimensional, cross-burning cartoon character. It might be largely my own fault, I suppose, but I can't help it that most of my favorite artists happen to not be black. This doesn't mean I don't like any black artists. Anyway. Whatever. Luther's great. I also like him because he apparently snubbed En Vogue when they opened for him (though En Vogue are light years better than, say, Destiny's Child).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think you are one-dimenional, alex. but if i had put together a list of ilxors who possibly LOVE luther vandross, prior to this thread, i'm not so sure you would have on it. okay, i know you wouldn't have been on it. but, speaking of cartoon characters, you do sometimes remind me of a young popeye. which is a total compliment. especially when i see pictures of you with your lil' sweet pea. that and the muttering that leads to an explosion on occasions. Luv Ya! Oh, and Luther, Love Him Too!

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 16 June 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
1978 Quincy Jones & Stuff Like That
1978 BIONIC BOOGIE Hot Butterfly
1978 The Good Vibrations
1978 Roundtree
1978 Lemon
1979 BIONIC BOOGIE Tiger Tiger
1979 Charme LET IT IN
1979 SOIREE
1979 NEW YORK CITY BAND
1979 MASCARA See You In L.A.
1979 Charlie Calello Orchestra
1980 ZAGER

leon petrossian, Monday, 12 September 2005 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

Strangely enough, clicking on this thread reminded me of Black Sheep's "Strobelite Honey." I didn't remember it on any conscious level, but Change's "The Glow of Love" is sampled in that, as I discovered at the-breaks.com some time ago, and I'd always meant to download it from one p2p source or another but never remembered to until just now.

My brain must really be messing with me to make that association from this post after forgetting about it completely for - jeez - at least two years now.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 12 September 2005 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

I really wish he'd recorded more uptempo stuff. "Never Too Much," "I'll Let It Slide," "Stop To Love" and "Power of Love/Love Power" (luvluvluv how he growls his vocal over the drum machine) are better showcases for his voice than the ballads.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 12 September 2005 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

There's some cool mid-tempo stuff on "Forever, For Always, For Love"... "She Loves Me Back" and "You're the Sweetest One".

But yeah, too bad he didn't make it to the second Change record where it got a little more uptempo.

Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

I don't suppose any of you remember luther doing saturday morning cartoon PSAs (a la School House Rock) about choosing a career path? with an afro-ed Luther in a yellow shirt and blue pants, dancing and singing? it went something like...

"let's think about a career
we can both be an engineer,
or learn about the atmosphere!

Hit the road, jack!
They've got the knack, it's clear...
they're on the right track to a career!"

CIJIMCBRIDE, Friday, 23 September 2005 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

(local jazz station's Funky Flashback Friday were just now playing "Planet Rock" re-re-re-mix that even I don't have, with Deutsch accent attempted; now it's "Genius of Love," did Luther ever venture into club mixes and stuff? Seems like he would have, at least in 70s) xpost second the mention of Q's Sounds...And Stuff Like That! Didn't he sing lead on that version of "Takin' It To The Streets"? Excellent input from Ashford & Simpson on title track; Patti Austin's sleepless-morning-after "Love Me By Name"; and "Bedtime Story" 's great breezy string transcription of a Herbie Hancock solo, arr. by Harry Lookofsky, dad of Left Banke's Michael Brown. (And Luther's involved in several tracks besides "Takin'," I think.

don, Friday, 23 September 2005 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

Some time ago, I managed to find an early-'70s single on the Maxwell label by Listen My Brother, the choral group that Luther was a member of, around '69-70 (they appeared on a couple of early episodes of SESAME STREET). The single isn't that great, and Vandross' voice doesn't really stand out.
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"I don't suppose any of you remember luther doing saturday morning cartoon PSAs (a la School House Rock) about choosing a career path? with an afro-ed Luther in a yellow shirt and blue pants, dancing and singing?"
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CIJIMMCBRIDE, if you're still out there, around what year did those ads run? (Somehow, I don't remember those either...)

Rev. Hoodoo, Sunday, 30 September 2007 05:33 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

memo from norv turner (omar little), Friday, 13 February 2009 01:01 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, that Bionic Boogie track is pretty great (as are their albums), but I still think Change's "Glow Of Love" is my favorite early Vandross, too.

Looks like nobody talked about this one below yet; these posts are all from last years "Buy That For A Dollar" thread, where I talked about buying this album for $2 in Greenpoint Brooklyn last summer:

1. New York City Band New York City Band (American International Records, 1979 -- not a real band, I'm guessing, and if it is, I doubt they look as tough as the multi-racial tough '70s NYC guys on the back cover, but still -- apparently Joey Travolta made a movie in 1979 that I never heard of until now called Sunnyside, which is also the name of the neighborhood I live in in Queens, and this the movie's soundtrack. How bad can it be if they cover "Bo Diddley" on it? Pretty bad, I know, but still, I was curious and could not pass it up)

Also, it apparently only played in theatres for three days, and the soundtrack is supposed to be one of Luther Vandross's first albums as a lead singer

2. New York City Band is good! Especially when Luther is singing! Though I have no idea when Sunnyside was the "ghetto" he says it is in that song; I always thought it was a working class Irish bedroom 'hood! I really want to see the movie now, though.

3. Or, maybe only good when Luther is singing. Though the mostly instrumental disco version of "Bo Diddley" can be lived with, I suppose. (And I still haven't decided how good the Luther stuff is. I may just be a pushover due to the Sunnyside angle.)

Second side (the one that ends with "Sunnyside") is actually really good, to my ears. Reminds me of a grittier version of his later work with the band Change. Not that good, but still good. Meaning "not as good as Change." But turns out I like most of the first side, too -- the Bo Diddley cover is cool, and I like when the rock/metal guitar takes over "Ride That Wave." "Got To Have Your Body" is about as awful as its title suggests, though.

xhuxk, Friday, 13 February 2009 02:05 (sixteen years ago)


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