Worst Nirvana Song

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My nomination: "New Wave Polly"

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

first person to say "all of them" is stupid.

the 2nd person to say it is cool though.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Something on Bleach

Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

'All of Them' was a fucking great track.
(U R All GAY)

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

heart shaped box.

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

first person to say "all of them" is stupid.

dammit

Color Me Stupid in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

This is a good question.

Possibly "Sifting."

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

"Endless, Nameless"

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

Actually, while it prefigures probably my favorite song on the ridiculously overrated Nevermind, Chris Novoselic's purposely irritating rendition of the Youngblood's "Get Together" in the intro to "Territorial Pissings" made me want to wrench the disc out off my stereo and hit it repeatedly with a very large hammer.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

haha, Novoselic has said many times that he does enjoy that song. He sure fooled a lot of people.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Endless Nameless is awesome.

Which one is "Sifting?"

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

scentless apprentice

ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

"Sifting" is towards the end of Bleach. "Teach yourself, your lies.. don't have nothin' for you.." or something like that.. Slow tempo, the riff is sludgy and not especially interesting in comparison with the rest of the record. The chorus is okay, but nothing special.

I might also go with "Mexican Seafood," except I kind of enjoy the grunting verses.

I wonder how long before someone says "You Know You're Right."

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

I like "Beans" more than I like "New Wave Polly"

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

i remember a radio dj saying before he played "you know you're right" saying it was one of the best, if not the best, nirvana songs ever recorded.

are you kidding me??? that tune was so hyped it made me sick.

ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

"You know you're right" sounds like Puddle of Mudd

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

"Mexican Seafood" or "Mr. Moustache". I can't believe those are even NAMES of Nirvana songs.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

This thread has in a roundabout way reminded me how many of my favorite of their songs I haven't listened to in probably 10 years. Like "School".

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

NO RECESS

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

"School" is innocent in a cool "Sliver" way. Not in a dumb Beat Happening way.

"New Wave Polly" turns a creepy rape song into a rockin' rape song. Which sucks.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Hairspray Queen.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, some of the songs towards the end of Incesticide, like Hairspray Queen and Mexican Seafood, are pretty awful, but as far as proper albums go, I've always skipped Come As You Are and Something in the Way.

Nigel (Nigel), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)


Hairspray Queen.

-- Chriddof (chriddo...), June 15th, 2005 1:28 PM. (Chriddof)

I agree. That song has about one good part in it. I think when he says something about a disco quees or something. The rest of it is pure shit!

Aja (aja), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, "You Know You're Right" is just insufferable.

Roadkill Bingo (Roadkill Bingo), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

All the "You Know Your Right" hate...

You think it might be because you're 10 years older and we live in a post-Silverchair, post-Creed, post-Nickelback world? Would you have said the same thing in 1995?

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

"In Bloom"

(no, I'm not kidding)

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

"Scentless Apprentice"

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

scentless apprentice is one of their best songs, so is in bloom.

i nominate: "very ape"

latebloomer: We kissy kiss in the rear view (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

All the "You Know Your Right" hate...
You think it might be because you're 10 years older and we live in a post-Silverchair, post-Creed, post-Nickelback world? Would you have said the same thing in 1995?

No way. "You Know..." sounds like an Alice in Chains song mixed with a Nirvana song. A handful of the previously unreleased songs from the box set sound better to these ears, and they were first heard, by me at least, in this "post-Sliverchair, etc." world.

fred burrows, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

Let us not forget:
Moist Vagina (All Apologies B-side)
Curmudgeon (Lithium B-side)
These are both pretty fucking awful

dwayne dibley (frownland), Thursday, 16 June 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

moist vagina is pretty dire

latebloomer: We kissy kiss in the rear view (latebloomer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

All of the 'screaming' songs on In Utero are pretty dire.

Aod Kelfer, Thursday, 16 June 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

"Gallons of rub" is.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 16 June 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

"Curmudgeon" is so bad it's funny, really, but my answer would have to be "Rape Me". If it's a comment on fame it's insufferable enough - the fact it's a cynical juggling of the chords to "Smells Like Teen Spirit" makes it even worse.

Deluxe (Damian), Thursday, 16 June 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i never liked scentless apprentice.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

i never did either, but you know you're right definitely takes the cake. come as you are and something in the way kind of suck too, but YKYR just sounds so shitty and mediocre.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

i mean, it's got NOTHING to it. come as you are has a kind of cool riff, and somethin in the way has "its ok to eat fiiiish cuz they dont have any feeeeelings"

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

hey, i like the screamy songs on In Utero, especially "Scentless Apprentice"! "YKYR" just, ugh, it sounds like a horrible parody of a Nirvana song.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

pretty much anything on the second half of Insesticide, really.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

'smellse like teen spirit" is bland.

volly halance, Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

pretty much anything on the second half of Insesticide, really.

-- The Good Dr. Bill (fadeout9...), June 16th, 2005.

except for ANEURYSM, which is like, oh, only Nirvan's best song.

latebloomer: We kissy kiss in the rear view (latebloomer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

All of the 'screaming' songs on In Utero are pretty dire.

-- Aod Kelfer (jstsy...), June 16th, 2005.

so wrong!

latebloomer: We kissy kiss in the rear view (latebloomer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

except for ANEURYSM, which is like, oh, only Nirvan's best song.

oh yeah, I guess that is on the second side. True.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

Every song on In Utero is completely amazing. In Bloom can't be the worst Nirvana song because it contains Cobain's best guitar solo (aside from Serve the Servants, maybe). Don't believe me? Go listen to that solo right now.

Nigel (Nigel), Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

"Curmudgeon" is brilliant. You're out of your minds.

pretty much anything on the second half of Insesticide, really.

That's probably Nirvana's worst "side," meaning what I'm assuming was on Side B of the tape version. However, "Hairspray Queen" remains a masterpiece.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

"'smellse like teen spirit" is bland."

Oh, come on. Listen to yourself.


Let me nominate Aero Zeppelin

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 16 June 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

YOU KNOW YOU'RE RIGHT

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

Territorial Pissings is pretty weak IMO, and doesn't benfit from being totally overproduced.

Aero Zeppelin might not be the best song, but it's a pretty cool name!

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Friday, 17 June 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

Overproduced? The guitar on that track was recorded by direct injection - doesn't get much more under-produced :).

Deluxe (Damian), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
"You know you're right" sounds like Puddle of Mudd

If Puddle Of Mudd was awesome.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

I think I meant to say "Aero Zeppelin" when I said "Sifting."

billstevejim, Thursday, 3 March 2011 08:13 (fifteen years ago)

Hairspray Queen.

kkvgz, Thursday, 3 March 2011 09:56 (fifteen years ago)

I liked "Teethgrinder" a lot, thought the intro was very World Dom.

I thought that the 12" remix *must* be an awesome thing, then I got one. it's not, really.

Mark G, Thursday, 3 March 2011 10:05 (fifteen years ago)

I guess the ones I like least are the ones that perpetuate the myth of Kurt as nihilist depressive - Dumb, Pennyroyal Tea etc. I find them kinda dull, and Dumb especially seems to recycle a lot of the same tricks as played on Nevermind. Even boringer are the versions on Unplugged.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Thursday, 3 March 2011 10:14 (fifteen years ago)

Pennyroyal Tea is intensely annoying. Kurt bellyaching about, well, bellyache

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

Agree with Dog Latin about those downbeat songs on In Utero. The exception being All Apologies, which is sublime.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:59 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I have time for All Apologies, but yeah In Utero might be a great album but has some pretty wack moments. Problem is it's always these tunes that get cited and quoted when people talk about Kurt as a tortured genius. Gimme Hairspray Queen any day.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

I like floyd the barber but, finding out the lyric is "pee pee pressed against my lips" made me giggle.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

That thing "Beans" on the box set

Iago Galdston, Friday, 4 March 2011 00:00 (fifteen years ago)

Mexican Seafood has this weird on-the-verge-of-puking, stilted chorus... the melody is fun but the delivery just sucks.

kelpolaris, Friday, 4 March 2011 03:18 (fifteen years ago)

three years pass...

I don't hate it but there's rarely ever a time I'm in the mood for "Paper Cuts", even though ultimately I think Bleach is classic.

Neanderthal, Friday, 21 March 2014 23:03 (twelve years ago)

"Scentless Apprentice"

all the "noise" tracks on In Utero blow except for "Very Ape" and "Milk It"

nova, Saturday, 22 March 2014 09:29 (twelve years ago)

I love Nirvana. But I HAVE to say Francezj Farmer is a drag. Too repetitive. is orc as relive go sag jay retard is better?

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 22 March 2014 11:35 (twelve years ago)

Yes?

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Saturday, 22 March 2014 11:46 (twelve years ago)

I'm going to have to ponder that question for a while

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Saturday, 22 March 2014 12:13 (twelve years ago)

Quite a few disposable ones in the middle of Incesticide (I really like Aero Zepplin but seem to be the only person in the world who does).

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 22 March 2014 14:13 (twelve years ago)

Hating "Scentless Apprentice" is positively mental

Neanderthal, Saturday, 22 March 2014 14:16 (twelve years ago)

Well apparently my question was not clear: Is orc as relive go sag jay retard is better?

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 22 March 2014 22:30 (twelve years ago)

What Neanderthal said. Scentless Apprentice is incredible, probably in my top 5 Nirvana songs (not that I have a top 5, but y'know). It's one of the harshest and heaviest rock songs ever released on a major label. An incredible performance all round. In some ways it terrifies me more as an adult than it did as a teenager. While I can't claim to have experienced anything like the darkness Kurt was going through, a bit of life experience makes that howl of rage all the more chilling. It's incredibly exciting too: Grohl's finest hour on drums, while Krist's bass - a much underrated but absolutely crucial component of the Nirvana sound - is sludgy and sleazy and grinding and grim.

Mexican Seafood is fun, especially its Sweet Emotion riffing breakdown, but Hairspray Queen is totally great. As a 14 year old listening to Incesticide for the first time I was like WTF? at HQ, but I soon came to love it. Blasting it just now and it sounds fantastic - a weird kinda Gang Of Four-on-very-nasty-drugs meets The Melvins or something. Kurt's guitar playing is great on it. It certainly opened my ears to some weird shit.

There are some pretty poor b-sides and rarities. I remember pals proudly brandishing their Outcesticide bootlegs and insisting such and such a half-assed demo was the best Nirvana song ever. But I gotta say You Know You're Right is a mediocre song and the SOUND of it is just wrong. Apparently Kurt used Grohl's guitar set up cos he didn't have his own stuff with him, and it just sounds shitty.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Saturday, 22 March 2014 23:06 (twelve years ago)

the best songs on In Utero are the most tuneful. "Serve the Servants" is messy sounding for instance but it flows in a way "Scentless Apprentice" doesn't. head-thudding riff imo

nova, Sunday, 23 March 2014 00:09 (twelve years ago)

The melodic songs on In Utero are great too. That album nails both the loud and quiet, melodic and noisy.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Sunday, 23 March 2014 00:34 (twelve years ago)

mental. that riff is perfect - the sloppy, chromatic ascending riff into the battering ram singular chord, then the tension building prior to Kurt's shrieking in the chorus....chills. the concept behind the song makes it pretty terrifying, too. it's like they took some of the moments that were B pluses on Bleach and perfected them with this tune.

I mean compared to actual "noise" rock that shit's pretty tame, in terms of accessibility.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 23 March 2014 05:13 (twelve years ago)

"In Bloom"

(no, I'm not kidding)

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:03 PM (8 years ago)

Good job, 2005 me. I was just about to chime in with that again.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 23 March 2014 05:15 (twelve years ago)

'Scentless Apprentice' fucking rules. One of my favourite ever Nirvana tracks, that.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 23 March 2014 20:52 (twelve years ago)

the intro is pretty badass, I'll give it that

nova, Sunday, 23 March 2014 20:58 (twelve years ago)

Plus it soundtracked this so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktpNtVtXvSo

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 23 March 2014 21:20 (twelve years ago)

Hairspray Queen is totally great

Yes, what a brilliant weird mutant of a track.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 24 March 2014 02:20 (twelve years ago)

But I HAVE to say Francezj Farmer is a drag. Too repetitive.

And this is nuts. It's dynamic as hell, and has one of Kurt's best choruses.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 24 March 2014 02:30 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

opinion

flappy bird, Monday, 21 September 2015 02:33 (ten years ago)

NO RECESS
― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:34 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Last time I listened to Bleach one of the songs really stuck out as especially forecasting Puddle of Mudd style post-grunge radio dreck and I think it may have been this one.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 September 2015 15:30 (ten years ago)

Never heard a song from this band I would willingly listen to again

help computer (sleepingbag), Monday, 21 September 2015 15:47 (ten years ago)

Might've been interesting to hear a fully realized band arrangement of "opinion" but the acoustic solo version is kinda whatever.

"Beans" posing as a standalone Nirvana song on the boxed set never made much sense to me. Imagining it as part of a weirdo Cobain bedroom cassette alongside "Clean Up Before She Comes" and "Polly" gives it some much needed context IMO.

billstevejim, Monday, 21 September 2015 19:59 (ten years ago)

Yeah, "Opinion" is just juvenile in the worst way. Also, this is funny:

Last time I listened to Bleach one of the songs really stuck out as especially forecasting Puddle of Mudd style post-grunge radio dreck and I think it may have been this one.

because, around '96-'97, a cover of "School" by a forgotten "post-grunge radio dreck" band called Another Society got a lot of play on the local "Active Rock" station in the Boston area. Actually, based on their one other song that got some play on the same station, I'd say the band straddled the nebulous border between post-grunge and nu-metal. Nobody ever really talks about Nirvana's influence on nu-metal, but I think everyone knows it's there. Attitudinally is obvious enough - Kurt's frank self-loathing and disaffection with the testosterone pumped up and minus his saving wit - but I mean musically too, and deriving from "Bleach" especially. I'll bet Korn and Staind stole a ton of ideas from that record.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Monday, 21 September 2015 20:27 (ten years ago)

"In Bloom"

(no, I'm not kidding)

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:03 PM (8 years ago)

Good job, 2005 me. I was just about to chime in with that again.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, March 23, 2014 1:15 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good job, 2014 me. I was just about to chime in with that again.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 September 2015 20:32 (ten years ago)

god i wish jack endino got the chance to remix the tracks he recorded on incesticide. "beeswax" is such a killer song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0IC1uQjHMY

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 17:45 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

New Wave Polly is the worst by leagues

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Friday, 26 May 2017 05:43 (eight years ago)

New Wave Polly is awful but my hipster opinion is that "smells like teen spirit" is the one that actually ruined the band by becoming bigger than them. It became such an anthem that it made Nirvana "the most important band of their generation" effectively putting so much pressure on them that it ended up destroying them.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 26 May 2017 06:54 (eight years ago)

On the other hand: if it weren't for the success of that song we wouldn't have the intense trainwreck of In Utero that is amazing at capturing that self destruction and frustration of having everyone dissecting your every move and expecting another "smells like teen spirit pt 2".

Going off topic but it reminds me of Radiohead and Creep. Nirvana retaliated with "Rape Me" (a blatant copy in the intro riff and a fuck you in live performances of people expecting them to play the song). Radiohead expressed their frustration with "My Iron Lung" and OKC.

Both In Utero and OKC wouldn't exist without that pressure.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 26 May 2017 07:04 (eight years ago)


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