Snoop Dogg C/D

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One review of Snoop I dug up:

Calvin Broadus, now d/b/a Snoop Dogg, is often accounted a major artist because he can drawl and pronounce consonants at the same time--with "flow," mustn't forget "flow." Post-Death Row Records he's been portrayed as the confused victim of his lord and master Suge Knight. "I'm just trying to be a child of God and do the right things and make good music," he told The Source. "I love Puffy Combs. I'm trying to make a song with Puffy." Then he contributed a cameo to the supposed farewell album by his new lord and master, No Limit's Master P. "Snitches" described a rap star he declined to name--but happily labeled a "puff-ass nigga," get it?--spilling his guts in a police car. No wonder people think Calvin's confused.

It would be a pleasure to dismiss Snoop's evocatively entitled No Limit debut, Da Game Is To Be Sold, Not To Be Told, as another piece of lowballing funk off the N.O. Bounce assembly line. Musically, however, this is one of No Limit's strongest albums. The lead "Snoop World" is the kind of track that can make an album, playing a disarming synth-bass hook over a real bass line and under triangles and other high elements that never hint at G-funk keyb tweedle, with a few Master P unngghs for insurance. Over the next few songs, cameos from No Limit's two best rappers, Mystikal and Mia X, clear the way for the unoriginal gangsta bull-roar of P, C-Murder, and Silkk the Shocker.

Sooner than on Mystikal's excellent CD, however, the music runs down, despite considerable input from Mystikal himself, whose deep-Delta bellow tenses powerfully against Snoop's honey-tongued indifference, adding moral weight to the usual professions of "ex-drug dealer" rectitude. And though for damn sure Snoop is just a rapper now, he would no more risk alienating his market than help a Blood's grandma across the street. Da game he's selling is sociopathic violence, and so he commits metaphorical murder, invites thugs to wave their gats in the air, cuts a biyutch improvident enough to suck his dick, and so forth. In short, he proves himself a born liar, and shows all the imagination of an ATM in the process. Anyone who thinks his flow makes him a major artist should give equal time to Mariah Carey's high notes and George Winston's magic fingers.

- xgau (also dropped the bomb on Doggystyle)

classic, obv

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 16 June 2005 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link

very classic

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:59 (nineteen years ago) link

"Doggstyle", his tracks on "the chronic" and "2001" + any beat Dre did for him = classic.

"Drop it like it's hot", "from tha church to tha palace" + the other Neptunes produced tracks = also classic.

Everything else = dud.

Ellis From Die Hard, Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

i disagree with the last line of that review. his delivery is great, while mariah's sucks. I'm not too familiar with snoop's later work, but all his earlier stuff like on doggystyle and the chronic is so classic he could have recorded shit after that and it makes no difference.

so classic.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link

classic

jedidiah (jedidiah), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

"Drop It Like It's Hot" is still my favorite single of the year.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic. Fo' Shizzle.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG! Songs aren't real?

Classic.

Hillary Brown (Hillary Brown), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Search: "Down for my N****s" with C-Murder. Classic.

deej.., Thursday, 16 June 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic, then dud, then classic all over again.

Jeff Reguilon (Talent Explosion), Thursday, 16 June 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

His mid-period stuff isn't so bad. I like his recent lounge-rap thing a lot though.

deej.., Thursday, 16 June 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

i'd trade drop it like it's hot for the old snoop anytime

rizzx (rizzx), Thursday, 16 June 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

like '21 jumpstreet' on the murder was the case soundtrack, that's classic

rizzx (rizzx), Thursday, 16 June 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link

NOBODY said "clizzassic" yet? Really?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Ridiculous classic! Best voice of any rapper I've ever heard.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

last line of Xgau is worth considering: is rating Snoop classic because his flow is great like calling Yngwie albums awesome because he shreds? Ynwwie does shred y'know but them rekkids are awful all the same.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Friday, 17 June 2005 00:10 (nineteen years ago) link

xgau has been dumber than he was here, but rarely.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 17 June 2005 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link

that "control ya hoe" track on the new one leaves a bit of a sour taste. but not enough to dissuade me from declaring classicness.

p.s: "deep cover"!!!

cheeses haitch christ (haitch), Friday, 17 June 2005 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm yes "Control ya hoe" very not classic.

deej.., Friday, 17 June 2005 00:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Gear would you spell out where he's dumb here? Is it just "Snoop rules, fuck this guy" or what? It's fair to say that Snoop's persona hasn't really gained much depth, if any, since Doggystyle - or isn't it, and if not why not, etc

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Friday, 17 June 2005 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

banana, why on earth is "depth" something snoop needs to develop? What does that mean?

deej.., Friday, 17 June 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link

well - take Jay-Z, or Scarface, or even Ludacris - even in the course of a single album, there's some shift, some play in the persona/e. Over time, Jay-Z constructed one of the most remarkable public personae I can think of, ever - really complicated, lots to chew on, layers upon layers. Or Scarface, working this weird spiritual angle that rewards a lot of inspection: dwelling on the same themes a lot of the time but finding nuances, different angles. Compare then to Snoop (whom I like, a lot actually, terrific groove, but): same persona since album one. Not really much new to hear on a Snoop album: maybe he switches producers, maybe he gets off a few really good lines (usually he will), but between D-style and Doggfather and Da Game Is and Paid tha Cost, plenty of great tunes and not of hell of a lot going on. Not sweating him that: it worked for the Ramones! About whom it would also be fair to say: remarkable lack of depth. Ten years' worth of writing ought to lead somewhere other than inevitably back to point A, no?

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with yr analysis, sort of, but I don't think Snoop needed to develop as a character any more than he already had; I don't want to hear him become introspective. I think he does a great job with his character.

deej.., Friday, 17 June 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
My world will never be the same.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

is rating Snoop classic because his flow is great like calling Yngwie albums awesome because he shreds? Ynwwie does shred y'know but them rekkids are awful all the same

I expect this is somewhat facetious, but either way: Not quite. I mean if you think shredding is great then maybe. But I'd consider it more like saying Grant Green is classic 'cause his guitar-playing is classic, or Bootsy for his basslines or whatever.

Also, Twista isn't classic and maybe this is why.

Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Twista isn't popular for anywhere near the same reason people like Yngwie! People are much more likely to dismiss him for the fast-rap style as 'gimmicky' than they are to embrace it, even rap nerds.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

No you're right, he's popular because some of his tracks are well put together. But the ordinary listener might think he's a good rapper for the same reason people seem to think Yngwie is a good guitarist -- that there is a sheen of virtuosity that is capable of obscuring whatever musical merit he might bring to the song. I've not listened to Yngwie much so I'm not in a position to say whether he has qualities submerged behind the shredding (though what I've heard leads me to think otherwise), but I suppose one could make that argument for Twista. Not me, though.

(Of course rap nerds would be the first to point out that he's gimmicky.)

Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Kudos to the first person who can post the Daily Star "Kick This Evil Bastard Out!" headline.

phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

KUDOS

phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

imo,superdud.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

A friend has just come back from the States full of stories about the night she and her sister met Snoop. She said, totally straight-faced and innocent "he was really lovely, and he invited me and my sister back to his hotel, but we had an early flight the next day and couldn't go".

As far as I know, this was the only time in my life I have ever used the word 'agog'.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I dislike rap, but I kind of like "Doggystyle". It is more thanks to Dr. Dre than Snoop though (I have never understood a single word about what those lyrics actually deal with anyway, but I suspect they are about beeaaatches, homies, drugs and crime...)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Geir you might as well type that you 'hate niggers.' Seriously.

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Either that or tattoo a big square on your forehead.

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link

or a target

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Dude he's from Norway.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 10 August 2006 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I believe that's been established.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 10 August 2006 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link

only on this board can you find someone with enough time on their hands to rationalize comparing snoop to yngwie malmstein.

Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Christgau isn't on this board.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link

he didnt make the comparison, mr non reader

Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently, there are at least a few black Norwegians.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Friday, 11 August 2006 03:35 (eighteen years ago) link

As for the original question, his early stuff alone, "The Chronic" tracks w/ Dre, and "Doggystyle" ensure that he gets a free pass forever from me. Much like Smashing Pumpkins and "Siamese Dream".

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Friday, 11 August 2006 03:40 (eighteen years ago) link

He wasn't too far off with his guess about the lyrics' main concerns.

I like Doggystyle but I'm not proud of it.

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 11 August 2006 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Surely Canibus would = Yngwie, not Twista?

The future of Rodney got a -- (R. J. Greene), Friday, 11 August 2006 04:40 (eighteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Why have I become very repulsed by Snoop Dogg's guest verses all of a sudden?

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...

major dud.

Classic album=Doggystyle. Lyrically, he was somewhat catchy but he was majorly carried by Dre on that album.

He once said "Beats? So that's what makes me now?" on Doggfather and after listening to the album I had to pretty much say "yes" to that, since he was unable to overcome the poor production.

I've heard most of the albums since. Haven't heard Rhythm and Gangsta, or The Game is to be Sold Not to be Told..

No Limit Topp Dogg--seriously one of the most boring rap albums ever

Tha Last Meal--Does anybody know what the FUCK happened to the songs that were supposed to originally be on this album? Cuz they were a hell of a lot better than what wound up on it. I d/led a supposed 'leaked' version months before it really came out and only "Issues" made it to the album.

Paid the Cost to Be the Boss--good production but it didn't fit him at all. zzzzz rhymes and flow. One good song...maybe two (the lead single was nice).

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:04 (seventeen years ago) link

ban bo

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link

also delete awful thread

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link

waaaaaaaaaaah.

seriously though he sucks. one moment in the sun that's all.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:16 (seventeen years ago) link

ts: 15 minutes of fame vs. 15 years of fame

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

nobody denied he ain't still famous but he still SUCKS

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

there should be a breathalyser for posting about rap on ilx except instead of breathing it would require at least 5+months of reading rolling snap

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:23 (seventeen years ago) link

although at the very least it should require having listened to rap music before the last week

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:24 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, you got me there!

Seriously, come down from the clouds.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

you cant be real

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link

hating snoop = hating rap

max, Saturday, 8 December 2007 05:42 (seventeen years ago) link

even snrub knows that

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link

haha. that's like saying hating The Jeffersons=hating television.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

seriously though deej who proclaimed you the emperor of rap? It seems anytime someone criticizes an artist you like you get huffy not because it's a difference of opinion but because you believe it's etched in a parthenon somewhere!

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Personally I like many Snoops songs, but it does seem true that his success is mostly due to getting the right producers and having patented one - admittedly likable (except for the misogyny) - persona and delivery over 10 years ago. I guess there's nothing wrong with that though, and "Sensual Seduction" at least suggests there might some new facets to be found within this persona.

Tuomas, Saturday, 8 December 2007 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link

yea kind of a direction he's been going since he started crooning that one track on The Last Meal. dude definitely knows his stuff about vintage music, I'll give him that much.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

No Limit Topp Dogg--seriously one of the most boring rap albums ever

this is insane

and what, Saturday, 8 December 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

1. "Dolomite (Intro)" – 0:27
2. "Buck 'Em" (feat.Sticky Fingaz) – 2:44
3. "Trust Me" (feat. Suga Free & Sylk E. Fine) – 4:08
4. "My Heat Goes Boom" – 3:40
5. "Dolomite" - 0:52
6. "Snoopafella" - 5:22
7. "In Love With a Thug" – 3:43
8. "G Bedtime Stories" (feat. C-Murder & Magic)– 2:14
9. "Down 4 My N'z" – 3:46 ( feat. C-Murder & Mystikal)
10. "Betta Days" – 3:56
11. "Somethin Bout Yo Bidness" (feat. Raphael Saadiq) – 4:11
12. "Bitch Please" (feat. Xzibit & Nate Dogg) – 3:54
13. "Doin' Too Much" – 4:06
14. "Gangsta Ride" (feat. Silkk the Shocker) – 3:44
15. "Ghetto Symphony" (feat. C-Murder, Mystikal, Silkk the Shocker, Mia X, Fiend & Goldie Loc) – 5:39
16. "Party With a D.P.G." – 4:54
17. "Buss'n Rocks" – 4:23
18. "Just Dippin'" (feat. Dr. Dre & Jewell) – 4:02
19. "Don't Tell" (feat. Warren G, Mausberg & Nate Dogg) – 4:47
20. "20 Minutes" (feat. Goldie Loc) – 3:59
21. "I Love My Momma – 3:06

and what, Saturday, 8 December 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

dude, he didn't fit with No Limit at all. and that album proved it.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

ho hum.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 8 December 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

haha. that's like saying hating The Jeffersons=hating television.

^^^
also true

max, Saturday, 8 December 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG HATING TILAPIA MEANS YOU DON'T LIKE FISH

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 8 December 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

ho hum.

-- Alex in NYC, Saturday, 8 December 2007 17:29 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^lolled at this

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 8 December 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

hating snoop = hating rap

http://deseretnews.com/photos/moronia.jpg

gabbneb, Saturday, 8 December 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

no limit topp dogg is one of the only albums i own as both vinyl and cd

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

also getting sticky fingaz on 'buck em' was genius shit

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I love that spoken word part on the Doggfather where he tells the kid who wants to be like him--"don't say that little homie. When you grow up, you could be a doctor, or a lawyer, or a LAKER!"

Nate Carson, Sunday, 9 December 2007 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

Somebody put their Snoop Dogg in my One Life to Live and I'm loving it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsIc2PF6xCc

Spinspin Sugah, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Anybody know if the UK's going to relent and let him back in?

La religion est une fatigante solution de paresse (Michael White), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Saw this in the store the other day:

http://hiphopwired.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/westcoastblueprint.jpg

1. Introduction To The West Coast Blueprint - Snoop Dogg
2. Eazy-Duz-It - Eazy-E
3. Act A Fool - King Tee
4. No One Can Do It Better - D.O.C.
5. Pay Ya Dues - Low Profile
6. La Raza - Kid Frost
7. Interlude (# 1) - Snoop Dogg
8. Alwayz Into Somethin' - N.W.A.
9. You Can't Play With My Yo-Yo - Yo-Yo Featuring Ice Cube
10. Check Yo Self - Ice Cube
11. Playaz Club - Rappin' 4-Tay
12. Interlude (# 2) - Snoop Dogg
13. Foe Life - Mack 10 featuring Ice Cube
14. I Got 5 On It - Luniz featuring Michael Marshall
15. The Evil That Men Do - Ras Kass
16. Gangstas Make The World Go Round - Westside Connection
17. 4 Tha Hustlas - Ant Banks
18. Nothin' But The Cavi Hit - Mack 10 & Tha Dogg Pound
19. Trust Me - Snoop Dogg Featuring Sylk E. Fine And Suga Free
20. Check Yo Self Interlude - Snoop Dogg
21. Check Yo Self - Snoop Dogg Featuring The Hustle Boyz

Interesting track list. Some good stuff.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

would wear the shit outta that sweater

k3vin k., Sunday, 12 December 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

this guy just seems a total caricature to me, and has for the last 15 years. His history of endorsements that have nothing to do with anything seems comically long.

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Sunday, 12 December 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

"Hack is Wack" - Promoting Norton AntiVirus.[56]

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Sunday, 12 December 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

so far I like Doggumentary quite a bit, although it's not gonna make any best of lists or anything. 3.5 stars or so. it starts out better than it finishes for sure. and fuck that Willie Nelson song.

San Te, Thursday, 31 March 2011 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

this is so fun, mostly for snoop's singing/toasting/rapping over the top

https://soundcloud.com/snoopdogg/sets/doggystyle-the-samples-20th

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 22 November 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

cool

Spottie, Friday, 22 November 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

the three Quik produced tracks on No Limit Top Dogg are so damn good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_NCA3F3ZM

check out this insane slothroprhymes yall (Spottie), Friday, 15 May 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3vzQXDIRgE
^^anyone check out snoop's tv show? double g news network, too good!

niels, Sunday, 24 July 2016 08:33 (eight years ago) link

new album is surprisingly good.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 15:35 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

"And Jimmy Iovine was like (bad Italian american accent) 'Snoop, I wanna get you guys on the cover of the Rolling Stone's magazine, you guys are like Mick and Keith. I'm like' Who the fuck are Mick and Keith, nigga? Fuck the Rolling Stones magazine, nigga! I wanna be on the Source Magazine cover, nigga! Don't you know that that is hiphop supremacy?" 'No no no, the Rolling Stone's magazine…' 'Nan Nah, Man I don't even fuck with the Rolling Stones! I couldn't tell you one of them nigga's songs, man! Fuck them!!!'

"And that motherfucker blew up, nigga; that motherfucker was everywhere. I started going on tour and it was just white folks coming up to me left and right, like 'Oh my god, we love you, Snoop Doggy Dogg, all around the world. Damn Jimmy Iovine, I ain't never had so many white people coming up to me in my whole life, cuz. Thank you; I appreciate that."

veronica moser, Friday, 25 August 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link

haha, that's good

niels, Friday, 25 August 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link

that Jimmy Mod post upthread one of the most o_O things I've ever read, even with it being in relation to Geir

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 August 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

Neva Left is pretty bumpin'!

genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 April 2020 14:41 (four years ago) link

like the Slick Rick chorus callback on Moment I Feared

genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 April 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link

I’m no connoisseur but I swear I’ve heard that Neva left backing loop on a ghostface track

calstars, Saturday, 25 April 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link

yup

genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 April 2020 19:53 (four years ago) link

i realize now Neva isn't the latest album, but from 2017 but i don't care, it's new to me

genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 April 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link

7 days of funk is a good album 🎶

calstars, Saturday, 25 April 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

Top 1% XBox gamer this year

Time 2 flex 👊🏿 💪🏿 Tha Dogg top 1% in the world n clocced 1300 hours of Xbox this year 😆 🎮 ✅ @Xbox Year in Review https://t.co/Re2vnKhQ5g 🔥🔥🔥 real gamer yadigg #xboxpartner #xboxyearinreview pic.twitter.com/BXfOjxI75j

— Snoop Dogg (@SnoopDogg) December 5, 2024

StanM, Thursday, 19 December 2024 06:40 (three days ago) link


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