Bono- friend of Warren Buffett, Rupert Murdoch, Billy Graham, Pat Robertson

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As if we needed confirmation of Bono's douchebag status:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/hearafrica05/story/0,15756,1507574,00.html

There have been dinners with Brad and Jennifer and drinks with Tom Hanks and Cameron Diaz. So far, so routine for a rock star on a mission. But the sharpest advice Bono received on how to win American hearts and minds around to his crusade on Africa came from an altogether less expected source: the legendary stock market investor Warren Buffett.

The Irish rock star, who has arguably done more than any other to ensure that the cause of Africa gets on to the agenda of the US administration, has stepped up his lobbying while on U2's Vertigo tour in the US over the last two months to increase the pressure in the run-up to the G8 summit next month in Gleneagles.


Earlier this week he told the Guardian in Cologne how advice from Buffett, reportedly the second richest man in America, had shaped his strategy: "Warren Buffett told me, 'Don't appeal to the conscience of America, appeal to its greatness, and I think you'll get the job done'."

Others enlisted in Bono's crusade have included the media mogul Rupert Murdoch, the former Republican senator Jesse Helms, and figures on the religious right such as Pat Robertson and Billy Graham. The rock star described in his only newspaper interview before next month's G8 summit how he has shared a laugh with President Bush, whom he describes as "very funny".

He has not been afraid to use his Christian faith to appeal to the American religious right, dining with Billy Graham and his son Franklin, and quoting Gospel verses to Jesse Helms, which reduced the 83-year-old Republican to tears.

Bono has spent six years trying to change the mindset of the world's most powerful country in relation to its poorest continent, risking his own reputation and that of his band by associating with some of the most controversial figures in American public life.

At each of the 27 concert dates in the US over the last two months, he has made a direct pitch to audiences of more than 50,000 fans to sign up to the US One campaign, telling them: "My first experience of America was watching Neil Armstrong on the moon. America looked like a place where anything could happen. That's what we're asking Bush - to bring mankind back to earth. We have the technology, we have the resources and the knowhow, but do we have the will?"

Every night, the crowds shout back, 'yes'. "Even in Arizona where the word 'poverty' isn't in the lexicon and where people tell me there are a lot of Republican whites, they were shouting yes," Bono said.

During U2's tour, the One campaign has gone from 50,000 registrations to a million. In the last 10 days, the campaign was boosted further from the airing of a documentary of Brad Pitt on a trip to Africa with Data, the organisation Bono has co-founded (Debt, Aids, Trade, Africa).

"Brad and Jennifer [Aniston] a year ago put together a dinner for 20 great actors and asked me to speak. Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts and Cameron Diaz were all there, and they have all followed through. Sean Penn, George Clooney and P Diddy have all come to me, saying, 'We see you're there, we want to help. What can we do?'"

What has made the One campaign work, in Bono's view, is the combination of Hollywood and what he calls "heartland". That includes the Christian music industry, which has promoted a letter-writing campaign to President Bush on Africa, urging "Christians of conscience" to get involved.

Bono has also been able to draw in help from new technology corporations such as AOL, and has described Murdoch as "very helpful".

Murdoch lobbied Karl Rove, White House chief of staff, and cleared free airtime on his Fox TV network for One campaign adverts in the run-up to the G8. "Rupert said, 'I'm not going to lead the charge but if we make progress, I'll support you,'" Bono said.

The rock star tells his American audience in media appearances from the Oprah Winfrey show to interviews with Bill O'Reilly, the outspoken commentator for Fox News, that the "stupid poverty" in which thousands of Africans die every day from a mosquito bite must be the cause of this generation, just as civil rights was the cause of an earlier generation.

Bono points to a number of breakthroughs in American policy on Africa as signs that his campaigning is paying off. The US signed up to the 100% debt relief package agreed last weekend at the G7 finance ministers' meeting in London. He also cites the fact that aid to Africa has nearly trebled under George Bush and the US in 2003 initiated a $15bn (£8.2bn) five-year programme on Aids.

He was personally credited with the dramatic public U-turn on Aids of Jesse Helms. "Christ only speaks about judgment once and it's not about sex but about how we deal with the poor, and I quoted Matthew, 'I was naked and you clothed me, I was hungry and you fed me.' Jesse got very emotional, and the next day he brought in the reporters and publicly repented about Aids. I explained to him that Aids was like the leprosy of the New Testament."

When Bono was told that there was no support from the grassroots for action on Aids in Africa, he took a choir of Ghanaian children, the US film star Ashley Judd and a Ugandan woman who was HIV positive around the mid-west in 2002, visiting seven states in a week. It was on this same tour that Bono met Warren Buffett.

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

If you think you know why Bono is a douchebag for doing the things described in the article, send your answers on a postcard to:

Give The Rich Man A Break
Decent Lobby
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FU U2

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

I think it's possible to have the best of intentions, and still be a total douchebag. It's also the case that he's doing all this stuff, and then expected to be thanked- in fact not just thanked, loved- for it. Anyone with that kind of Messiah complex is a douche, therefore Bono is a douche.

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

What makes him a douchebag – trying to woo the current movers and shakers (who all happen to be Republican)? Sounds practical to me.

More douchebag-esque is that remark about how "Brad and Jennifer," Julia Roberts, et al came up to him asking how they can help.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

and then expected to be thanked- in fact not just thanked, loved- for it

where does it say this?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

Warren Buffet is not Republican. If anything, he's a lefty.

Leave Bono alone...he's doing a great job.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm, the consensus seems to be that I was too hard on Bono. Maybe what is actually annoying me about the Guardian article, and indeed anything written about Bono or U2 these days, is the way in which such jourbnalism is written in such a forelock-tugging, deferential, reverential way. No one seems to want to put any even near-critical questions to the man, and since he's setting himself up as a political agent this strikes me as extremely unhealthy. Perhaps its the whole media-U2 interface that's the douchebag, rather than Bono himself, although IMO the jury's tending towards guilty on that one...

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

You're right, Neil. Reporters, duly awed by examples of star magnanimity, too often lob soft questions.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

quoting Gospel verses to Jesse Helms, which reduced the 83-year-old Republican to tears.
Sounds dope to me! I must admit I don't get the Bono hate.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

I would love to make Jesse Helms cry!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

No one seems to want to put any even near-critical questions to the man

I would much sooner criticise his recent musical output than cast hypocritical stones at his political activism (same goes for Chris Martin), things being as they are. What criticism or questions SHOULD be put to them? Other than the hackneyed 'isn't it a bit odd for capitalist millionaries to be babbling on about third world debt', which is dubious enough not least because the fact that they're doing this when countless other people made rich through entertainment/sports/other industries do considerably less with their influence which sometimes seems far more 'douchey'.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm quite happy to criticise his musical output also, Sociah. I do agree there's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" side to celebrity endorsement of any charitable cause. It always seems to me, though (and I could be wrong), that there's an element of Bono, Martin, Geldof et al saying "not only am I rich, famous, and talented, but I'm also a fantastic human being who does a lotta work for charity". Of course, this is never explicitly stated, but the implication seems to me to be there for us non-celebrities to draw.

Whether you take the view that such celebrities are doing good and so any ego-massaging should be ignored, or that the likes of Bono get enough kudos without having to thank him for his extra-curricular activities, is IMO a personal one- I tend towards the latter view, as you can probably guess.

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1500000/images/_1503297_bonohelms300.jpg

Bono's probably not a bad person, he's just a bit of a goofy-ass douchebag. This isn't the first time a goofy-ass douchebag has done something good.

matlewis, Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I think that photo does make him look like an incredible douchebag granted.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

there's an element of Bono, Martin, Geldof et al saying "not only am I rich, famous, and talented, but I'm also a fantastic human being who does a lotta work for charity".

they should hold their meetings at supersecret underground compounds!!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Are there are any photos of Bono that don't make him look like a douchebag?

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

coming right up, dada:
http://www.trippymusic.com/Photos/Bono-10.jpe

matlewis, Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Must try harder

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

it's a pretty pathetic series of contortions, trying to use charity work to prove Bono is a douchebag.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

http://gatling.ikk.sztaki.hu/~kissg/arts/simpsons/pics/Bono.gif

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

That's more like it - except that's Lou Reed when he was in the Velvet Underground

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

I'm not really trying to "prove" anything, Gear- it's just more evidence for the prosecution. I've qualified my original "douche" claim pretty heavily as well.

Lets all just agree that Bono is a douche, charity aside:
http://mullings.com/bono-o

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

I've qualified my original "douche" claim pretty heavily as well.

Hmmm. I think you were presumptuous with the 'aren't I great?' thing, I don't really see that, media sycophancy is not really THEIR fault is it?

Bono looks pretty sharp in that last outfit.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I guess it's perception- Bono always comes across as pretty self-satisfied to me whatever the company he is in, although this does tend generally to be media types, granted. You're right to say media sycophancy isn't his fault, but that sycophancy doesn't stop him being unutterably smug, IMO.

I think he was going for the "I'm down with the Africans" look in the picture above!

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Is that Robin Williams standing next to that old white fella.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I could give a rat's ass about his intentions or how douchesque he looks to people. If he gets anything done here, it's a better feather in his cap then being considered cool anyway and what better way for a dude with a tendancy toward being a self-righteous preacher to fill his time than by actually picking an issue that he cares about and trying to do something about it.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Bono might be uncool and thoroughly unaware of what actually does = rock star "don't-give-a-fuck" ness, but here he's trying to ingratiate himself with people who are capable of making a difference (scary as it might be to think that he has to cajole THESE people), which I think is more admirable than some line-in-the-sand, "not gonna deal with them at all" stance. Considering some of Bush's recent remarks on debt relief, for example, maybe this could be construed as the opposite of douchebaggery.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

I think he was going for the "I'm down with the Africans" look in the picture above!

Or y'know maybe some of them showed and offered him the clothes and he deemed it rude to refuse. I'm so tired of this judgementalism! People are always being accused of smugness when they're just smiling for the cameras.

He seems pretty aware to me, including of how much of a nonce he comes across as. Unavoidable really, damned either way. Just get new targets for chrissakes.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Why would you pick on this guy when there are so many others guilty of far more important crimes to humanity. He gets air time, he gets decision makers' attention. Yes he's always been full of himself as many popular figures are after being adulated by millions during the 80s and early 90s. That he now chooses to do something meaningful with his spare time makes him a good man not a douche.

RayG, Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

The glasses make him a douche, and the music's got really boring since 'Pop'. Mind you I watched the 'Lemon' video again for the first time in years yesterday and he's so cringey in it - but then he's 'in character' i suppose (the dreaded Mcphisto).

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Why would you pick on this guy when there are so many others guilty of far more important crimes to humanity.

This is unusually phrased.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Bono knows who he has to talk to to get things done, what's wrong with that?

shookout (shookout), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Why would you pick on this guy when there are so many others guilty of far more important crimes to humanity.

This is unusually phrased.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), June 16th, 2005.

I'm a fervent supporter of expanded landmine placement, myself.

Jay Watts III (jaywatts), Thursday, 16 June 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Bono always comes across as pretty self-satisfied

LORD FORBID

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 16 June 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

One of these days Bono is do what Ringo Starr and Pam Anderson did and get his own comic book superhero. The Edge will be his sidekick and his guitar will have this really neat echo effect that can summon animals from around the world if they ever need help fighting Ian McCulloch or AIDS or whatever.

Cunga (Cunga), Thursday, 16 June 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

I think Bono the Famine Fighter is as awesome and respectable as Bono the Lead Singer is terrible and cloying.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 June 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

he's just OLD, man. his rock band is a day job at this point. of course he's a douchebag, but he's done more for the world than i ever will. i have to give him that.

ugly and mean, Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

Start doing nice things now, you might catch up. Especially if he gets bored with the whole messianic trip.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 17 June 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

see other people aren't "messianic" because they're, y'know, Presidents or Prime Ministers or CEOs or billionaires or Reverends and things like that. the nerve of that Bono not having a title!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 17 June 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

Bono has the goofy confidence of someone who's been married since he was a kid.

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 17 June 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, that's me told! I guess I'll have to stop being horrible about Bono.

U2 still suck big-time these days though- can I say that?

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Friday, 17 June 2005 06:37 (twenty years ago)

They definitely are a fucking terrible band, especially now.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 17 June 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

I think this is worth considering:

But it's the Aids programme which, as we've said before, is the point where Bono has either willingly been duped, or is joining in trying to dupe us:

* President Bush promised $15 billion over 5 years, or $3 billion a year, for his new AIDS initiative. But in his budget request for 2004, unveiled the week following his promises, Bush asked for less than half a billion dollars ($450 million) for next year for this initiative.

* Instead of the $3 billion per year over 5 years that was promised, most of the money for the AIDS plan will not even be requested until 2005 and beyond. This is after Bush's term in office will have ended, so there is no guarantee this will be requested at all. Even more importantly, this deadly delay will cost millions of African lives. (This, of course, was compiled before his election victory last year)

* The focus of the new AIDS initiative is not really on Africa and the Caribbean. The White House has clarified that the $15 billion will include all U.S. funding for AIDS globally. In July 2003, President Bush said the initiative he announced in January was "to fight AIDS abroad", breaking his own promise that it would be for Africa and the Caribbean. This means that whatever amount of money is appropriated for AIDS, Africa will get far less than promised.

* In July 2003, the White House specifically asked Congress to limit AIDS funding for next year. President Bush intervened during the budget process to urge Congress not to spend the $3 billion that was being considered at that time. This was after Bush had returned from Africa, where he had seen first-hand the devastation caused by AIDS and where he had repeatedly promised U.S. support for African efforts to fight AIDS.

Flyboy (Flyboy), Friday, 17 June 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

nice moment on newsnight last night when bono momentarily threw paxman off course by reaching across the desk to shake his hand.

came across far better than i imagined

soc, Friday, 17 June 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I saw that. He seemed to win Paxo over alright, and did come across as pretty coherent.

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Friday, 17 June 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

In July 2003, the White House specifically asked Congress to limit AIDS funding for next year. President Bush intervened during the budget process to urge Congress not to spend the $3 billion that was being considered at that time. This was after Bush had returned from Africa, where he had seen first-hand the devastation caused by AIDS and where he had repeatedly promised U.S. support for African efforts to fight AIDS.
Oh, yeah...but, hey...thats the suffering of other people, and has no effect on and no relevance to GW Bush.
Now, if someone with courage and stealth were to inject George W with a horse-needle full of very heavily HIV infected blood...I wonder if he'd suddenly change his tune?

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

eleven years pass...

that new warren buffett doc on hbo was p good - he eats drive-thru mcdonalds breakfast every morning ! as an ~84 yr old !!

johnny crunch, Thursday, 2 February 2017 03:22 (nine years ago)


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