OPO: hip-hop DOUBLE albums

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All Eyez On Me? Life After Death? Wu Tang Forever? The Blueprint 2? Streets' Disciple? Speakerboxxx/Love Below? (Hah!)

deej.., Thursday, 16 June 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

Oh man don't make me choose haha.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 June 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

I never much liked Forever and by the time the hype for that album was at its peak they were off my radar and I was listening to jazz. I think both Streets' Disciple and Blueprint 2 are good albums. Speakerboxx is OK, Love Below not great, so really for me its Life After Death VS. All Eyez On Me, and I think despite "Heaven Ain't Hard 2 Find," I think Biggie wins handily. so:

Life After Death

deej.., Thursday, 16 June 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

Can I pick Crunk Juice with the Bonus CD?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 June 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

of those nominated I pick Wu-Tang Forever. I've actually come to think that Speakerboxxx/the Love Below, good as it is, is Outkast's weakest album. The rest of these I've never given full listens to... are there any other hip-hop double albums?

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 June 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Life After Death and it's not even close with any of the others listed.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 16 June 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

I think the first hip hop double CD was Master P's, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 June 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

Oh you can definitely include ones i didnt list. Those were just the ones off the top of my head.

deej.., Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

I can't think of any others! I R dum.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

hmmmm... bone thugs n harmony and e40 had double albums. 2pac had the largest sense of event for me w/ its string of singles, wu was most anticipated, but right now i'll take biggie i think.

xcixxorx, Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

biggie easy

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

Biggie for sure, but All Eyez is a pretty smooth listen - plenty of filler where the lyrics drop off but a good head-nod all the through in my opinion

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Friday, 17 June 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)

Blueprint 2.0 is zzz...

Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Friday, 17 June 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

I think Blueprint 2 had some of my favorite jay z moments. "Meet the Parents" and "As One" and a bunch of others.

deej.., Friday, 17 June 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

every hip-hop album i buy is a double-album cuz i buy them on vinyl. usually they are triple-albums. i think wu tang forever was a quadruple album!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 17 June 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was gonna say Ghost Dog...

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 17 June 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

Definately "Life after death".

Still a good 5 or so tracks too long and Biggie spread him self a little too thinly but there are so many classic tracks on there it's ridiculous. You got grimey shit like "what's beef?", "last dayz" and "10 crack commandments"; Introspective songs like "sky's the limit", "my downfall" and "you're nobody.."; Storytellin' cuts like "somebody's gotta die", "niggaz bleed" and "i got a story to tell"; Macked-out sex tracks like "fuck you tonight" and "the world is filled.."; club/radio classics like "hypnotize", "i love the dough" and "mo' money mo' problems" and raw m.c bangers like "kick in the door" and the interlude over "p.s.k" by Schoolly D.

Around half of "wu-tang forever" is trash; "blueprint 2" has some outstanding moments like "the watcher 2", "show u how", "meet the parents" and "poppin' tags" but you've got to wade through a lot of crap to get to them; "streets disciple" was lame and should've been an ep with "thief's theme", "virgo" and 3 or 4 more cuts on it and i have no interest in 2pac

Ellis From Die Hard, Friday, 17 June 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

i'll go with 'all eyez on me', but i'll add that i recently bought the mike jones album, which also had the s+c disc, which i'm very much enjoying.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 17 June 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

Wu Tang's Forever, by a mile.

Then again, I think it's the best hip hop album ever released, so no surprises...

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 17 June 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

Scott's right, when was the last time someone released a 35-40 minute hip-hop record? Illmatic? 75 min = "double" album, even if it's one CD. The whole genre would be infinitely better if they started releasing shorter and tighter LP's.

Keith C (kcraw916), Friday, 17 June 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

wu tang forever was like a quadruple lp. same for speakerboxxxxxxx

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Friday, 17 June 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Company Flow Funcrusher Plus. It may all fit on one cd, but I've got a double lp of it, thus it's a double album. Each side has its own distinct character, I think.

Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Friday, 17 June 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Scott's right, when was the last time someone released a 35-40 minute hip-hop record? Illmatic? 75 min = "double" album, even if it's one CD. The whole genre would be infinitely better if they started releasing shorter and tighter LP's.

I don't agree with this.

wu tang forever was like a quadruple lp. same for speakerboxxxxxxx

Uhhh I'm talking about CDs here. Double CDs. 'albums' referring to releases, not vinyl, which most people don't buy.

deej.., Friday, 17 June 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

ah, most people

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Does the Nelly Sweat/Suit thing count for this? That's not necessarily my choice, but, it is pretty good.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

"The whole genre would be infinitely better if they started releasing shorter and tighter LP's."

I think every genre would be improved by this, frankly.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

I guess I would choose Wu-Tang Forever, even though it's not the least spotty (Life After Death & All Eyez are both more consistent), but because it's best moments are such massive highs.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Yeah Wu-Tang Forever, which I don't find all that patchy really, it's just LONG. I like "Wu-Revolution" tho, yr standards may vary. "Speakerboxxx/Love Below" comes a not too distant second, tho it's more twin Lps than a double PER SE.

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

"I think hip-hop would be a better genre if there were more good albums."

deej.., Friday, 17 June 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

I actually think pretty much every song on Life After Death is fantastic, although to be fair I cant sit down and listen to every song all at once. That's still my choice though.

Don Rowlando (Sam Rowlands), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Scott's right, when was the last time someone released a 35-40 minute hip-hop record? Illmatic? 75 min = "double" album, even if it's one CD. The whole genre would be infinitely better if they started releasing shorter and tighter LP's.

-- Keith C (kcraw91...), June 17th, 2005.

the new Young Gunz album is 43 minutes long (and one of the songs is a year old and was tacked on), and it's garbage. brevity isn't everything.

Al (sitcom), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I can think of a number of brief-yet-crappy albums from artists "trying" to make an Illmatic. Like the new Common album.

deej.., Friday, 17 June 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but it would have kicked butt if it was like 80 minutes. You need those skits and guest raps in there to make it work. One long track about 10 minutes where the guy just blabs is key, too.

Keith C (kcraw916), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

also: in this day and age, when every major rap album has at least 2-4 tracks from it released to radio even before the whole thing leaks, I'd rather spend my money on a 70 minute disc where there's at least more new material I've never heard before than a short one where I already know literally half the songs. (xp)

Al (sitcom), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Al so OTM. Keith C, Kanye's album >>>>>>> Commons! despite skits. despite ten minute long tracks (actually, i love that track). Some of my favorite hip-hop albums are 70s minutes (only built 4 cuban linx, anyone?)

deej.., Friday, 17 June 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

I think Kanye's album is great too. But I think it's the exception. Less is more.

Keith C (kcraw916), Friday, 17 June 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Well obv record companies seem to think value = king too. I don't find it particularly compelling, but since it basically just requires me to use the FFWD more, I'll live.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure it's the best, but I always like Cru's Da Dirty 30

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

Most people don't realize this, but 2 Live Crew's 'As Nasty as they Wanna Be' was a double album...although packaged as single on cassette and CD reissues.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 17 June 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh c'mon, Common's Be is hot(am I the only one? honestly?), and definitely >>> College Dropout, not that I attribute it to brevity. Kanye/Common duet on Chappelle show also the weakest cut but I think that's a coincidence.
I think Wu Tang wins this, I thought it was a classic when it came out and it's about time headz finally came around, more or less. Tupac's is an extremely close second but I gotta admit I never rated Life After Death, just way too spotty.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 17 June 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Tremendoid shockingly off point w/r/t like, everything man! I'm not sure why you think yr the only one who likes Common, shit's been getting like positive critical raves everywhere. And "Food" is one of the better tracks on it, i think, College Dropout is way better, not sure whats so spotty on Life After Death if you think Forever is classic!

deej.., Friday, 17 June 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

re: Life after Death
it was mostly the way that Big covered all the bases, sometimes in rote fashion like Ellis detailed(especially the sensitive stuff); and I know everybody did this/does this but coming on the heels of All Eyez on Me which did it without all the portentousness(Tupac just kind of got on with it which made it AEOM feel less sprawling and exhausting) it suffered big time by comparison. As for Common, I think he comes off looser than he has in years mostly thanks to Kanye, his themes are both more focused and more forgiving and his flow, for a change, is engaging enough that you can concievably dispense with the message altogether if you're so inclined. I can definitely see not loving it but it's hella solid, I'm also not trying to be a martyr I've honestly bumped into nothing but the negativity for it and it baffled me.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 17 June 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

very long hip-hop albums that are almost 100% great = lil wayne "tha carter" and big punisher "capital punishment".

maybe i should give "life after death" more rotation time, i never really got into it.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 18 June 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

I choose the OutKast one.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 18 June 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

As much as I like Big Pun, I feel the need to retort to that "100% great" label. True his flow is great on that album, but a lot of the beats are AWFUL, and in my opinion it's all just far too long.

Fantastic songs on that though, the one where he destroys Black Thought lyrically and that one with Fat Joe.. dead in the middle of little italy.. etc!

Don Rowlando (Sam Rowlands), Saturday, 18 June 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Yo Diehard gimme a beat

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poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

"wu-tang forever"

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 18 June 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

The whole genre would be infinitely better if they started releasing shorter and tighter LP's.

But 90% of today's most acclaimed hiphop albums are mostly filler anyway. Back-to-front classic hiphop albums aren't released nearly as often these days as they were ten or more years ago. Today, ones that are barely 50% classic are treated as masterpieces - especially debut albums, like The College Dropout or especially Get Rich Or Die Tryin. Yes, it would be better if this occured, but the industry will never encourage shorter and tighter hiphop LPs. All they really care about is hot singles. Beyond that, quantity is absolutely preferred to quality, because they like to make consumers feel like they're recieving more bang for the buck.

And also half of the tracks on most hiphop records are intros, outros, interludes and skits, so there are times when the album only has 10 or 11 real songs. To make tighter LPs, all of these will need to disappear. Most of them shouldn't be there anyway. I always skip track 1's titled "Intro." They're so completely unnecessary. The only ones who do interludes in an interesting way are Outkast. Everyone else just repeats the same things everyone else is doing, just to make their albums longer.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Sunday, 19 June 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

Eightball's Lost was criminally slept on and even more criminally seems to have faded from hip-hop's collective memory.

I'd still pick Life After Death or Street's Diciple over it, but it does have a buch of awesome tracks: The Artist Pays The Price, Backyard Misissippi, Stompin' & Pimpin, My Homeboy's Girlfriend, Coffee Shoppe, I Don't Wanna Die, My First Love, All 4 Nothin'....

Randy Reiss (undeadsinatra), Sunday, 19 June 2005 03:49 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
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sergei monia (dwallace), Monday, 18 September 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)


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