soft pink truth, castanets, efterklang, ariel pink, tim sweeney, all remixing grizzly bear? wild (another pfork story, i'm on a roll)

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ok so i'm reading my pfork news section a lot today
this remix project seems highly random, but also lots of fun and potentially great

AND no remix sluts of erlend oye or four tet!

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/05-06/16.shtml#grizz

breezy, Friday, 17 June 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

i'm not usually a fan of remixes either, but kinda love most everyone involved, although not a big fan of final fantasy, dont' know a lot of the others

breezy, Friday, 17 June 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

i love final fantasy

knocknock, Friday, 17 June 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

he's ok i guess. a little too gay for me. just kidding. i love the gays. hey cutty, i love ariel pink now. you were right

breezy, Friday, 17 June 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

i never liked that simon bookish remix of franz ferdinand, he totally just does his own thing over the tune. but I did like his original stuff. not familiar with grizzly bear, but some of the remixers are pretty cool

z, Friday, 17 June 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

dude. that efterklang album is so good.
also, the double is remixing?
i am highly anticipating.

knocknock, Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

i know gb. i need to live alone. rmate always up on my crap. double double toil and trouble.

zach, Saturday, 18 June 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

everyone should check out grizzly bear.
for realz.

shh! (wide-eyed), Friday, 1 July 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
i tracked some of these down. and they are top top notch. only can find 3 of them though...Soft Pink Truth being one of them. and also my favorite

zach, Monday, 19 September 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

you.. send it?

jermaine (jnoble), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

yeah I will when I get off my work computer. don't have it hear.
it's definitely worth sharing.

zach, Monday, 19 September 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3JM014E9EOZFJ240CLRTXL8729

this is the safety scissors remix. as i've said on another thread, i have a personal bias with this band, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they're completely brilliant. this mix is a bit more like a cover, though despite the sonic differences from its source material (the original is a moody, murky, sad folky dirge from some future where most of the instruments got broken and there's a constant environmental drone emanating from someone unknown point in the distance, and the vague sad clacking of decomissioned filing cabinets punctuates the rhythm track as the nuclear wind whooshes across the flattened landscape), they are certainly coming from the same place, and somehow arriving at the same place, though at a different time of day, season, year, or maybe in 2 different rashomon recollections of the same event. this mix plays like the sad dance ballad of walter mitty. there's equal parts confusion, anger and sadness in the lyrics, which are surreal and dreamlike in both renderings of the song, but in safety scissors' version they read like the bitchy notes of a tv reporter coming to you live from the scene, as accompanied by a robotic skiffle band at a jazz club on coney island. this remix is easily his strongest since his dntel remix, which it shares much in common with-- all spring loaded action figure beats, slinky stuttering synth bursts and squawking digestive basslines. He has re-recorded the vocals, and sounds like the confident singer he's always threatened to become.
This is possibly my favorite song I've heard all year. If people are interested in this, maybe i'll post the dntel mix too. But these guys are good people and they deserve your hard earned money too, so buy it when it comes out in November.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 19 September 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

funny. i hadn't foudn this one i like it though thanks

i just got the castanets one and am a bit dissapointed with that, would have expected more from them

zach, Monday, 19 September 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

I've got a copy of this (the rough mixes at least) and some of it's great. I think it's a pretty hard band to remix -- it's very tempting to try to out Grizzly Bear Grizzly Bear, and most of the people who do this fail. The bigger successes are the ones that diverge from the subject matter -- the bootyshake of the Soft Pink Truth one, or the carefree blueness of the Final Fantasy.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 19 September 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

i don't have the final fantasy one. I didn't even realize he was doing one.

zach, Monday, 19 September 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

guess I should reread this thread. I'm more interested in getting some more YSI links

firstworld?

zach, Monday, 19 September 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

3 tracks at indiekids.org today

contrary to my earlier post
final fantasy did well

breezy, Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Wait, firstworldman, am I crazy or are you kinda, umm, involved in this one?

Haven't heard any of these, but I'm surprised to hear that they'd work. My main problem with the album is that it seems to predate their fantastic live show, in kind of a bad way; it's very guy-screwing-around-in-apartment sounding, as opposed to the really clear, precise, well-harmonized stuff they do on stage. So I'm surprised the sound is there to mix with -- I'll be looking forward to their recording something clear and precise and cleaned-up, and hearing that get rearranged.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

What do you like about their live show? I walked out in disgust.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

whoa we got a hater. eppy doesn't like.

breezy, Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

What I like: songs have complex and unexpected shapes that seem very precisely constructed and not just dependent on someone improvising swoops with delay pedals. The songs feel full, but the sound is surprisingly minimal, with attention drawn straight into one line or one harmony, almost isolated. Remarkably accessible. They do the whole "hush, we're serious" thing, but instead of ekeing out the kind of noise that depends on the hush to seem deep, they've actually built songs and dynamics and tiny arrangements that inspire the hush. There'll be like four small sounds going on, and then the drummer will double a guitar riff on his chimes and it seems like a whole grand arrangement taking shape.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

wow, really well put nabisco.

eppy must be on crack or like fiery furnaces or something

breezy, Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I guess I missed the songs, then--just seemed like a lot of boring noodling. The minimalism just seemed like a lack of ideas to me--"Wow, they really like that one melody line, don't they?" was a thought I recall having. I definitely didn't give them enough of a chance, but I'm also not really inspired to give them another one.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

could have been bad sound. i'd definitely give it another shot eppy. but going into it with the feelings you have, may not change. what show was it you saw?

breezy, Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

yo n, yeah, i helped out a bit with encouragement and pointing them in the right direction with a couple email addresses (unless you meant am i emotionally invested in it: yes). grizzly bear has been mired in self promotional confusion on this board... i find it a bit unsettling. i think it's a few of their friends that every once in a while post a random comment out of the blue. that being said, i am being totally and utterly sincere in my enthusiasm...

firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Both times I've seen them they've been so non-noodly -- that's exactly what's impressed me, how tightly arranged a lot of their stuff is. Maybe you saw them before they tightened up? The sense I get is that they noodled around their stuff and made weird noises (cf the album) until some point where everything firmed up. Saw them in Williamsburg in February (Glasshouse?) and they were fantastic; saw them at CMJ and they sounded much the same.

1stworld -- I meant that the track listing I just saw has your music-moniker on it!

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Saw them at the Deli release party, which was at...uh, somewhere in the LES, I guess I could look. Sin-E maybe? That sounds right.

I'll wait for the recorded output I think, it'll be easier to focus on the apparently existant song structure, although I did listen to the Safety Scissors remix and was bored out of my mind.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

i think that was pre fourth member eppy

breezy, Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Fourth member?

Looks like it was December 2.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

xpost
oh haha!
yeah, i was going to contribute a remix, but then my neuroses got the better of me and i made 200 versions of it and went hysterical trying to make it work before pulling a captain kurtz in my living room for a year.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

and try out the other remixes at indiekids.org

i mean remixes are weird, nobody is going to like all remixes
I usually don't

breezy, Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that was like their 3rd show ever or something before they found a fourth member and shit. i saw them at tonic a few weeks earlier from that one

breezy, Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I'm not (nor do I ever) saying my position is rational, but honestly, when I saw them it made me despair for music as an artform--and I am not exaggerating--so they would sort of have to make something you'd compare to Rachel Stevens for me to give them another chance. I can barely put up with that style of music normally anyway, so, you know. Luck of the draw--good thing I have no influence!

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

wow, you are so crazy dude

breezy, Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Fair enough.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

while I think you SHOULD give them another chance, I don't really care enough about you or them to push it further. however, it was probably a early stages show, or you just aren't into it. much like I can't stand Fiery Furnaces, Excepter and all sorts of stuff everyone else is gushing over.

breezy, Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

So basically, they put out an album before they got good, and are now releasing a remix album based on that pre-goodness album. Is there any way besides seeing them for me to evaluate their new sound? If it is a new sound? Are any of the remixes reminiscent of what they're like now? Do they have another full album coming out anytime?

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

well I love the first album

but their live show sounds nothing like it
nothing out yet

have no idea when either

breezy, Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

they put out an album before they got good, and are now releasing a remix album based on that pre-goodness album

Yeah, that's exactly what my problem is! Seriously: the album sounded okay to me in spots, but mostly just like someone sitting in his living room getting all into his own tape hiss and line effects -- it didn't work so well for me at all. Seeing them live changed this dramatically. So yeah, it seems like exactly the wrong time to do remixes: what we need from them is to sit down and record a really clean, focused-sounding record (as opposed to the "oh, so I've been working on some stuff at home, it's kind weird" record), at which point I think a lot of people will really come around to them.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

but most people LIKED that album!

breezy, Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

i have heard i think 5 of the new songs recorded and i can tell you that whether or not you liked the first album will not be much of an indication as to whether you like the new stuff. it's vaguely demented sad happy mystic orchestral pop. here's a completely useless description: hybridize each one of the beach boys with a broken clone of arthur russell, raise them on syd barret and let them fall asleep to tom waits being played from down the hallway, send them to the eno-specter recording institute. or maybe it sounds nothing like that.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

either way, i'm waiting to have it in my hands.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

the new song i've heard is fantastic.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
i downloaded a few tracks from some blogs (the final fantasy and simon bookish one) and love them both. anyone care to YSI the rest of them?

ssss, Monday, 14 November 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

it took me a while to catch on with the debut but now that i have, it's definately all very solid to me. i listen to it a lot now. and that said, i went to the live show recently, fairly intrigued and was blown away. completely an expansion on what they're already doing well. which can only mean good things to me for the future

ben tousley (wilkerton), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
I've been listening to these remixes lots lately. I think the Efterklang, Soft Pink Truth, and Simon Bookish are my favorites so far. I wish they'd left the Bomarr Monk one off, its parts don't even seem to fit together.
Any word on a new album?

wmlynch (wlynch), Monday, 5 December 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

i don't know when the new album comes out but i enjoyed them too. i liket he bomarr one but think the castanets one sucks ass. usually remixes bore me and while this isn't all hits, there are enought that i really got to likign it bunches

farning around, Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah where is the Tim Sweeney one. i wanted to hear that one

farning around, Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

i read only good things about this
is it really that good?


http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=3638

http://www.slate.com/id/2132571/

and then the current issue of the wire compares the band to beatles white album.

that good???

brainiacright, Sunday, 18 December 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

it's pretty good!

farning, Sunday, 18 December 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

i think not that good (yet), but what i've heard from their new recordings is fantastic.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Sunday, 18 December 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

ooo, a circlesquare remix

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 18 December 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)


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