You walk into a record store, you shake your head - they've got it all wrong...

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OK, so this is more than a little anal, but what are the things that annoy you unreasonably about record store organization? Like:

CDs not organized spine-side up.
A section called "electronica"
No listening facilities

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

So Amoeba must really upset you then. Actually I guess they have listening facilities at the SF one now, but who uses them.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Or scary-looking clerks with multiple piercings who play every cookie-monster vocal, death-metal band in existence at ear-shattering volumes.

That's Vintage Vinyl in Woodbridge NJ.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

One shop in Hitchin seems to arrange the CDs in the weirdest version of "alphabetically" I've ever seen. I honestly don't understand how they've managed to mess it up so badly.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

There's a new record store in my hometown of Glassport, PA, I was stunned to find on a recent visit to see family. They had racks of country CDs in front and the R&B sequestered away in a back corner. Appropriate for the region, perhaps, but wrong for me.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

I hate the record store on my side of town so much. Not only do they strategically not stock every single record I want (or care about ordering them), but they've started picking random artists and labelling/ordering by album name instead of artist. Meaning, you'll look for Aphex Twin but instead of any card that says Aphex Twin you'll get a seperate section for Analogue Bubblebath, then Come to Daddy etc.

It's not a horrible idea, but the place is disorganized and badly stocked as it is so this just messes things up.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

CDs not organized spine-side up.

As someone working at a radio station that just had to make sure the library was correctly alphabetized, I can say with authority that this is the worst fucking thing you can do.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Cramming as many CDs into a display rack making it impossible to flick through them is stupid too.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

CD's in those long plastic caddies. easily tangled, totally unnecessary.

rajeev (rajeev), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

that's not too bad--it just means you take the first two or three out of the rack before you start flipping, and put them back when you're done with the row. It's annoying, but it doesn't come close to comparing.

x-post

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I can't remember which store it is, because I don't go there anymore .. always put the divider tags/ the thing with the band's name on it, in FRONT of the CDs. That just aint right. NO ONE does it that way!

Also, stores that overcategorize & put "rock" in one section and "indie" in another and "punk", "hardcore", "local", "math-rock", "new wave" .. so I have to figure out which fucking type of music it is? Just alphabetize, you fucks.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Snobbish clerks are the worst. When I bought some Hall & Oates and Donna Summer vinyl a couple of months ago the dickwad behind the counter threw a very bemused smirk in my direction.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

i really wish other music would make small listening stations somewhere

plus why do they have to always have like 30 employees milling around all the time eating chinese food and looking aimless? i love that store, but why?

breezy, Friday, 17 June 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Also, stores that overcategorize & put "rock" in one section and "indie" in another and "punk", "hardcore", "local", "math-rock", "new wave" .. so I have to figure out which fucking type of music it is? Just alphabetize, you fucks.

YES! And then when they start randomly taking the most popular bands out of their genre and file them additionally in "pop" as well...

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

other music doesn't carry enough vinyl to afford listening stations. stock gets wrecked that way.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Low Yo-Yo in Athens has great clerks and great CDs, but the fact that it's the size of a bathroom stall (granted, a handicapped one) means having to navigate a pretty impossible organization system. Cardboard boxes of CDs stacked on top of eachother 6 feet in the air impossible.

matlewis, Friday, 17 June 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Yeah - when a store has 15,000 cutouts in the "$2 or less" bins, but those bins are underneath the regular bins and you have to sit on the floor to hunt through them while other people are kneeing you in the back .. why bother. I'm sure I'm missing some great deals by not wanting to be inconvenienced... but my time is worth something.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Friday, 17 June 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

I hate when record stores alphabetize their CD's going upwards insted of going downwards.

For Instence: Abba would be at the bottem and it will lead up to Aerosmith which is at the top.

I Hate That!

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Friday, 17 June 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Also, when the bins are tiered - so there are like two tiers of bins with four rows in each of them .. and they alphabetize in columns .. So the A's start on the top tier, and continue down to the first row of the second tier, and then back up to the second row of the top tier, etc... (instead of going tier 1: rows 1-n, followed by tier 2.) This is further complicated when each bin/rack is separate and they think that they should wrap from the end of tier 1/rack 1 to tier 2/rack 1, instead of tier 1 - rack 1-n ..

I.E. Once you pick a plane on which to file, stick with it until you reach the end of that plane.

Secondly, Just have one fucking tier.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Also, does anyone ever remember to look at the discs that are displayed above the racks or behind the counter or in the special display case by the front door? That's where all the good rarities are, and I always forget to look there.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

That reminds me, this same record store I've been bitching about sells dvds as well, and they have every single tv show box set on a rack behind the counter. This means that I have to stand there squinting for minutes on end to see if they have what I'm looking for (they never do), while the snotty indie kid employees stare at me and repeatedly ask "can I get something for you?" ("no, still just looking").

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Shops that sell vinyl 12"s meant for purchase by DJ's MUST arrange them by genre/label, with a special bin (in each genre's area) just for the last week's domestic and one for the last week's import releases. Sorted alphabetically by artist suxxxxx.

tylero (tylero), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Agreed.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

"When I bought some Hall & Oates and Donna Summer vinyl a couple of months ago the dickwad behind the counter threw a very bemused smirk in my direction."

if he doesn't recognize the merit of your selections, and would presumably feel more more kinship with you if you picked some microhouse or Arcade Fire or somesuch Pitchford-iana, than he is indeed a dickwad. Why should you care if this loser doesn't approve?

veronica moser (veronica moser), Friday, 17 June 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

Also, stores that overcategorize & put "rock" in one section and "indie" in another and "punk", "hardcore", "local", "math-rock", "new wave" ...

...but then have these huge completely uncategorized sections of like "electronic" and "world".

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 17 June 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

The desk is one foot in front of the door, 10 feet up in the air and the clerks stare down at you menacingly, but the CDs are in the back behind the desk. And everyone steals because the clerk desk faces the door and they can't see the store behind them.

Stoner Guy, Friday, 17 June 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

CDs not organized spine-side up.

This is (bafflingly) standard practice mostly everywhere isn't it?

Cramming as many CDs into a display rack making it impossible to flick through them is stupid too.

Standard practice for way too many second-hand stores. I just end up picking up 5-7 at a time withe the pincer hand movement, scanning the spines then putting them back. I've never dropped any (yet).

A-Z sections that span (and make me walk) the whole length of the rack(s) and back 5 times are kind of irritating.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 17 June 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

Over sensitive customers who aren't confident in what they listen to are the worst.

Ellsworth M. Toohey (Grodd), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

There are other more misc. things too:

Stores with posters, fliers, snacks etc covering every inch of surface...
Stores that smell (mostly 2nd hand, for some reason)
Stores that offer to put music on "over the system" and watch for your reaction / or control the skip-through function.
***Stores that use stickers that can't be peeled off clean***

Heh, had to laugh about the Other Music thing - seriously, I think I've counted 9 staff members at once - anywhere else this size would have 3, tops.

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 17 June 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

4th & B'way, homies

noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 17 June 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

Seeing Cex in the hip-hop section.

(OK, I was just joking with that one.)

I generally don't find problems with the genre-pigeonholing because record stores aren't exactly geared to ILX type people.. believe it or not, there are people out there who will only look at an "indie" section, but not "pop/rock/soul". Record store clientele are pigeonholers in general (and i stress "general"), so stores have to abide by their pigeonholing habits. (That said, I don't see how record stores with a grand all encompassing A-Z scheme fair worse, but anyway.)

Same deal with alphabetizing: putting "Alice Cooper" under "C". Technically, that's an "A", but you file bands where you think the customers will look. So I won't complain about that.

My biggest complaint -- and this is directly referencing JACKPOT RECORDS IN PORTLAND -- don't make CD browsing cause you eye strain.

JACKPOT RECORDS IN PORTLAND, in order to minimize shelf space, took on removing CDs from the relatively space-wasting jewel cases, and put them in small longer paper/cardboard sleeves... Fine, no problem with that. but WHY PUT THEM IN THE MOST GAWDY EYESORES OF A PAPER SLEEVES POSSIBLE??? Each sleeve is white paper with the word "NEW" in bright red repeated all over, and the used CDS are white paper sleeves with the word "USED" in dark green repeated all over. It hurts my eyes literally to browse through the CDs. See ya!

I won't comment on snotty/non-snotty clerks at all. That's a relative thing... but that's rarely a problem in the Pac NW record store scene.


donut e-goo (donut), Friday, 17 June 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Also, stores that overcategorize & put "rock" in one section and "indie" in another and "punk", "hardcore", "local", "math-rock", "new wave" .. so I have to figure out which fucking type of music it is? Just alphabetize, you fucks.

Rough Trade to thread. **** me, I don't even know what some of the categories are, never mind which one I'll find the Isolee album in.

Ranking Rupert (Ranking Rupert), Friday, 17 June 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

Or scary-looking clerks with multiple piercings who play every cookie-monster vocal, death-metal band in existence at ear-shattering volumes.

and i know exactly who you're talking about and he's a goddamn nightmare to look at. let alone his crap musical taste.

every i time i go there they're playing new order or placebo remixes at ear-shattering volume, though. i like the store other than that.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 17 June 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

The best stores would put everything, including R&B, hip-hop, dance, metal, everything, in one section called "pop/rock". Makes a lot more sense just searching the alphabet regardless of genre.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 17 June 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

My local shop displays 7" singles behind the counter, on a wall at 90 degrees to the counter. Therefore if you want to see what they've got in stock, you have to stand in the middle of the floor with your neck twisted at a far from natural angle looking like a complete dolt.

Ben Dot (1977), Saturday, 18 June 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

Maybe the guy who smirked about the Donna Summer record smirked because he liked it, or thought it was ironic cool or something.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 18 June 2005 01:06 (twenty years ago)

You iz cwazee, donut.

Earl Summerfield (Grodd), Saturday, 18 June 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

The local FYE at the mall in my city to thread!

They jam all the pop/rock/R&B together. Then there is hip hop, world music, reggae, and a Latina section that is 50% of the store. But, the best part of all is the hilarious "local music" section that doesn't have a single local musician. Many of them aren't even from this country.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 18 June 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

Most of the CD's categorized under "New Music" are months old.

In many sections, they can't tell the difference between an artist and the name of a compilation album. The reggae section is the WORST! There's dividers for

HOT REGGAE TRACKS
TOP REGGAE TRACKS 2004
REGGAE REGGAE REGGAE
BLAZIN' DANCE HALL

etc.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 18 June 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

plus why do they have to always have like 30 employees milling around all the time eating chinese food and looking aimless? i love that store, but why?

hehehehe... i also can't stand the weekly update. every single review is like:

"Brooklyn-based psych outfit _______ breaks the mold with this utterly essential psychedelic masterpiece. Highly reccomended"

Is it just a coincidence that every album they get is the indispensable? It seems so wrong for retailers to even pretend that they're writing unbiased reviews of their merchandise... ah well. i still blow half my paycheck there.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

Aquarius in SF, I believe, will actually critique albums in their reviews.. though not so much "DON'T BUY THIS! IT'S MANURE", but will be wording the critique in a nicer way, and say a few words about why it's not up to snuff compared to, say, the artist's previous work, or what not.

donut e-goo (donut), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

I once went to a record/comix shop where the ol' lady who ran it gave her cats free run of the place. There was catshit all over the merchandise. Very appealing.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

..and of course, plug the previous stuff by the artist that they have in stock. I mean, tecord store owners aren't obligated to be music critics! (even if they take the record review route... which I have no problem with, as long as it's not like.. well.. what the above example exhibited.. haha)

donut e-goo (donut), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

(haha, obv. xpost)

donut e-goo (donut), Saturday, 18 June 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Common problem in the Tampa area - used CDs mixed in with the new ones, which makes it impossible to go through all the used ones unless you've got all day. Sometimes made worse by putting the price tags at the BACK of the damn CD!!

Patrick (Patrick), Saturday, 18 June 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

The worst is where there's used and new sections but the new section also has selected used cds.

DAEREST V1CE MAGAZINE!!!!! (ex machina), Saturday, 18 June 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

I fucking hate even glancing at music at the Borders in Folsom. Their stacks are bad enough, but the cds are worse...everything's out of order,
whole chunks of G's in with the F's, half the time they're not even spine-side up. Now I know that the vast majority of browsers in Borders are complete morons who don't give a shit if they put anything back in its right place, but they have staff who can correct this. They don't. Never ceases to put me in a bad mood.

And I go there because it's the only bookstore near work, so hush your whining.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 June 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and only having new relases on the new release rack, but not actually in their appropriate section as well. AAAAGGH.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 June 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

any store with someone under 30 .
sorry cashier but duran duran aren't a new band
"sunrise" isn't their debut single.
this is for hmv in prahran,victoria,australia.

retroman, Sunday, 19 June 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)


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