― zeus, Monday, 20 June 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)
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― zeus, Monday, 20 June 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)
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― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 20 June 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)
― zeus, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)
album has leaked and is pretty good overall, but when it's really good (eg the three singles) it's aces.
― Lee F# (fsharp), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)
Erm...
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)
― JoB (JoB), Thursday, 21 July 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 21 July 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)
That must be the problem.
― zeus, Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)
― JoB (JoB), Thursday, 11 August 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)
braindead consumers + too much money + unshakable addiction to buying + near zero sales resistance + simple mechanism to easily acquire merchandise = BIG FUCKING PAYOFF FOR CON ARTISTS, UNSCRUPULOUS HUCKSTERS, AMORAL JUNK PEDDLERS
― michael burble, Thursday, 11 August 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)
― jimmy glass (electricsound), Thursday, 11 August 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)
I know it, not just think.
― zeus, Friday, 12 August 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)
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― zeus, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)
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― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 23:16 (twenty years ago)
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― paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 04:35 (nineteen years ago)
― zeus, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 22:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Toucan3000, Thursday, 29 March 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)
― zeus, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)
― deej, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:21 (nineteen years ago)
Poor Rakes get little love around here. I saw them a couple summers ago at Double Door in Chicago and they were wonderful. Like post-debut Maxïmo Park, Futureheads and Franz Ferdinand albums, they especially have trouble making impact in the U.S., though most shows seem to sell out in the UK. But the songs really have staying power and have even grown on me over time, including Ten New Messages. Closest comparison I can think of in songwriting, but not sound, would be the last couple Pulp albums. The new one, Klang! is short but excellent, certainly kicks the sh*t out of something like The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart. http://mog.com/fastnbulbous/blog/1247904
Reviews:http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/9z4h/http://www.clashmusic.com/reviews/the-rakes-klanghttp://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/mar/19/popandrock
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 17:02 (seventeen years ago)
their debut is great, the last one was awful like lots of those bands' second albums
― Hoos Passansteeno (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 17:04 (seventeen years ago)
Last one was actually good! The songs were just...hmm, more modest? Less hooky? And too produced. But I like Klang! a lot. It's a short, sharp messy little record, with some great lyrics. Fast too.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 17:21 (seventeen years ago)
I loved the first one and like what I've heard from the newest as well.
― Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 17:27 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah I don't know in what universe you could call the soph albums from any of those bands "awful." They may be less frenetic, bushytailed and fashionable in comparison, but they're great in more subtle ways, just like later albums from Magazine, The Jam, Buzzcocks, Madness, Gang Of Four, Undertones, Killing Joke, etc.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 17:28 (seventeen years ago)
'Klang' is better than 'Ten New Messages': punchier, more direct, funnier, though I miss the hits. There are no such songs here like 'Retreat' or '22 Grand Job', but still a step in the right direction. 'Bitchin' In The Kitchen' is my favourite, and the piano tracks are good too ('The Woes Of The Working Woman' and 'Muller's Ratchet'.
― zeus, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:27 (seventeen years ago)
the second rakes album, second futureheads album and much of the second maximo park album border on awful and pointless. maximo is the only one id even imagine listening to at this point in my life
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:31 (seventeen years ago)
Second Futureheads and Maximo Park was not that bad, the Rakes' and Art Brut's second was a disappointment however. Don't mention the second Bloc Party, which was beyond awful. Perhaps this topic worthy of a poll. Hm.
― zeus, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:33 (seventeen years ago)
i love a weekend in the city but then again i liked silent alarm the most of the debuts anyway. i don't categorize art brut in this group, they seemed to be more of a US band to me really
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:35 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, Art Brut is more successful in the US, however I've always felt some kind of similarity between the Rakes and them: funny and realistic lyrics about modern life is still rubbish, a touch of '77 punk in the music (OK, the Rakes a bit more 'angular'), sharp and short songs. Perhaps I'm wrong.
― zeus, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:39 (seventeen years ago)
yeah i never really but them together cuz art brut is so wink wink cheeky FUN and rakes are so dead seriously dreary, but yeah sonically they aren't that far off
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:43 (seventeen years ago)
Futureheads 2nd netter than the 3rd. And the first, in fact. A dark horse, and quite beautiful.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:55 (seventeen years ago)
i've tried revisiting ten new messages a couple of times but it just doesn't get there for me... we danced together is a good tune but the rest is in one ear and out the other. another song as the level of 'work work work pub club sleep' would have me back in a flash, that song is fantastic (and the production is awesome too)
― Bad, Bad Memories of a Good Time (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:04 (seventeen years ago)
yeah that song is really incredible
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:06 (seventeen years ago)
don't skip "little superstitions" off ten new messages. can never get enough of that.
― YGS, Thursday, 26 March 2009 01:32 (seventeen years ago)
Can we talk about how comically awful "Suspicious Eyes" was? OMG that song.
― Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Thursday, 26 March 2009 01:41 (seventeen years ago)
lol is that the song about tom cruise?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 March 2009 01:45 (seventeen years ago)
It's the one about racism/terrorism where different people sing as characters and it contains omgseriously? lyrics such as this gem:
These people are assuming who I am, but they're wrongGot a beard and a bag so they think I got a bombI saw everyones reaction soon as I stepped through the doorAll acting like they've never seen a brown person before
I thought it was a joke when I first heard it and part of me still really hopes that it is. It's just such a bad idea.
― Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Thursday, 26 March 2009 01:54 (seventeen years ago)
lol the rakes with a grime rapper
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 March 2009 01:55 (seventeen years ago)
BBC reviews are just...BC reviews, but still, a good one:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/9z4h
Hmm, I might become the one man cheerleading squad.
And yeah, suspicious eyes. Even the name is awful.
― paulhw, Sunday, 29 March 2009 23:24 (seventeen years ago)
That was a good review. There are others who like this one:
http://www.clashmusic.com/reviews/the-rakes-klanghttp://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/mar/19/popandrock
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 30 March 2009 18:27 (seventeen years ago)
And no one discovered the sad end: http://www.nme.com/news/the-rakes/47980
― zeus, Thursday, 29 October 2009 11:15 (sixteen years ago)
They're looking for 22 grand jobs now.
― Disco Stfu (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 29 October 2009 12:30 (sixteen years ago)
a shame, but the drop off in quality between the first and second albums was way too big for me
xpost loool
― quaq quao, sweetie (electricsound), Thursday, 29 October 2009 12:31 (sixteen years ago)