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When did you stop giving a fuck about the Smashing Pumpkins and how old were you?

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I can't believe people still talk about this band like they are interesting/relevent. Same with Weezer and Pearl Jam. Aren't their entire fanbases just bunch of people who had good memories of a band in high school or college and just cant. let. this. shit. go.

1998. I was 18.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

After standing enduring an endless navel-gazing wank-out endless guitar noise fest at the SECC on the Mellon Collie tour. Didn't buy an album after that.

― stet (stet), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

oh, 17.

― stet (stet), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Not yet / 30

― On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

"relevent"

― On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

The last Pumpkins album I gave a hoot about was "Siamese Dream". I was around 20 or 21.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

"cmj.com"

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

in the womb

― b'angelo, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

praise the lord for this thread

― o, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Sometime between "The Everlasting Gaze" and "Stand Inside Your Love" or whatever its called. I'm still curious about his new stuff but "Gaze" was the last song of Corgan's I've heard that I found rewarding.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

I give a fuck. Oh, wait... the fuck just flew away.

― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

It was the opposite for me -- "Everlasting Gaze" was almost a parody of a Mellon Collie-era SP song, complete with a capella break during which Billy babbles about nothing. "Stand Inside Your Love" brought me back into the fold.

xpost

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

actually if "giving a fuck" means expending a modicum of effort to hear the dude's songs I guess I still do. I clicked a yousendit of his or two this year.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

i've always resisted them for some reason, but i entirely stopped giving a fuck maybe 10 years ago? is that possible? i think they were around then.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

I remember seeing the "Rhinoceros" video on this local LA UHF channel afternoon video show back in '91, and thought they were incredibly cool. Bought "Gish" and loved it. A couple of years later, bought "Siamese Dream" and thought it was pretty good. Soon after completely lost interest and ended up selling both albums. Don't really miss them - though "Gish" is okay, I guess.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

yeah, so us Corgan apologists are holding on to past glories by a band that hasn't been "relevent" in years. i'm not sure how that makes us any different/worse than all of the New Order fans still holding out hope. or Daft Punk fans for that matter.

― jonviachicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Or Bloc Party fans!

(Sorry.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

OH NO YOU DUDN'T

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

DIDN'T

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

You really never know when an artist is gonna fall assbackwards into a good tune or 32. If you had told me in any previous year I'd really enjoy an Eels double album I'd laugh in your face. I figure you've got just as good a chance of hearing something rewarding staring at a has-been or never-was as a might-be or an is-right-now.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Dange, I just started giving a fuck about Bloc Party yesterday.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

I enjoy a track or three of theirs but I've never given a fuck about the Bloc Party. The NME took the weight off me.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

to answer the question, right after I bought Siamese Dream. but it was briefly revived when I heard "1979". Then it went away again. Then there was that one tune from the Lost Highway soundtrack, which I liked. And there was one tune from Adore. Actually, I'd probably drop coin for a SP single-disc compilation. A used copy anyway.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

Bought Gish, sorta liked it. Bought Siamese Dream, and didn't really do much for me.

I really stopped caring in '95 when I saw the "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" video, heard the lyrics and thought, "that puke really wants to inherit Cobain's vacant throne, doesn't he?"

― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

I never gave a fuck about the Smashing Pumpkins. Some nice songs on Gish, but far from godlike.

I suppose this is the generation after mine's equivalent to: When did you stop giving a fuck about KISS and how old were you?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

I kind of like The Bloc Party!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

A wimp's tale: I started giving a fuck when I heard "Disarm," liked the quieter bits on "Mellon Collie" ("Muzzle," "Lily," "Tonight Tonight," "In The Arms Of Sleep," etc etc), became a fan upon hearing "Adore." The fuck flew away shortly after; I could never even finish listening to "Machina" (one look at those song titles and any desire to hear it evaporates).
Favorite songs - "Eye" and "The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning." In a nutshell, I like the Smashing Pumpkins when they think they're Depeche Mode.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

I like how their lead singer pretty much refuses to be interviewed by Vice Magazine, despite being distributed by Vice Records. xpost

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

the only thing of theirs that I've spent the time to retrieve and play since, like, '96 was the B sides comp. Was it Pisces Iscariot?? That had some good ish on it. But the precise answer to your question would have been around '95 when the video for that song about his rage and being a rat in a cage came out. Puke.

― Will(iam), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

which woulda made me 18. I think.

― Will(iam), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

as for Weezer, I just pretend that everything after Pinkerton - save for "Islands in the Sun" & "Dopenose" - doesn't exist and I'm fine.

― Will(iam), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

"I like how their lead singer pretty much refuses to be interviewed by Vice Magazine, despite being distributed by Vice Records."

he doesn't want to get outed, purportedly

― noizem duke (noize duke), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

I was never that much of a fan, liked Gish, Siamese Dream, and most of the big ol' double....1979 is classik, natch....I dunno but I hate these threads where the person who started takes this snooty, "Oh gawd, you people still care about XXXX. How pathetic!" tack...it's like what's the fucking difference...liking anything to a great degree is dorky and pathetic...Kool Kidz don't care about anything, that's the secret....I fail to see how being obsessed with MIA or Hold Steady or whatever is any worse/better than being obsessed with Smashing Pumpkins...they were a pretty good band I guess.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

I really wanted to like them in middle school. Listened to them a whole bunch then, trying desperately to do so. Eventually I realized that I just...didn't. I think I was around thirteen or fourteen. "1979" and parts of Siamese Dream are okay, though.

(agreed, M@tt -- you still like the Pumpkins? power to you.)

― babyalive (babyalive), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

I stopped giving a fuck about them? *is about to leave work and buy the solo album*

And yay the Bloc Party!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

In a nutshell, I like the Smashing Pumpkins when they think they're Depeche Mode.

Then you'll love the new Billy Corgan album, if you haven't heard it already.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

I stopped being way into them when Adore came out. Let's say fandom exists on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the highest), I was on 10 with Mellon Collie (age 15/16) and I dipped down to 5 or 6 with Adore. When Machina came out, I was on 5 and then it dips and peaks depending on my level of nostalgia. I still like it all a lot, but I just don't need it in my life so much.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Loved "Gish", had serious issues with all the records that came out after that, so...
Stop giving a fuck in mid 1990 when I was 20.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

When I first heard them. Early 20s?

― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

Mindinrewind - from the songs I've heard the new one is the best Corgan output since Adore, hope I'm right. He looked bored on Letterman last night but the song was good. As for the question: Matt OTM. This thread comes off more whiny and pissy and petulant than, um...nevermind

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

nothing is more whiny and pissy and petulant than that particular album, tremendoid

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

the "clones (we are)" cover is better than anything blueprint's done whiney nuck nuck

whiney when we getting eats/drx again

― Nick Sylvester, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

xpost gear they're on their own, I can only defend one irrelevant band at a time

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

When "Adore" came out and suddenly every babygoth in spit distance loved the pants off Billy. I never saw them as that kind of band - gimmie "Siva" or something any day.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

Anyone who's calling me a hipper-than-thou douche for starting this thread should know that I was really excited about the Primus reunion.

And Nick--Blueprint pwns! Pwns, I say! See you at Arthur Fest, dunny.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

When "Adore" came out and suddenly every babygoth in spit distance loved the pants off Billy.

In what universe did this happen? In mine, "Adore" gained Billy a handful of new music-snob fans and alienated about 60% of his old ones. Including the babygoths, who had actually showed up on Mellon Collie's shaved-head/ZERO t-shirt/Yelena Yemchuk's videos tip.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

To actually answer the question, anything post-Siamese Dream (I like about half of Mellon Collie and Adore) where Billy decided he was going to start doing some godawful lower-register vibrato-less croon rather than his angelic schoolboy sigh-scream. (Well, maybe. "Shame" might fall under this category, but it doesn't count because I love "Shame." But everything else is dull. Maybe.)

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

This is why I'm concerned about buying his solo album because on the traxx I've heard the music roxx and the voice suxx

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

I like how their lead singer pretty much refuses to be interviewed by Vice Magazine, despite being distributed by Vice Records. xpost

Is this true? I thought it was Virgin and now Reprise Records? Am I missing something...?

― Richard K (Richard K), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

Uh, that's in reference to Bloc Party, not the Pumpkins/Billy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

oops thx

― Richard K (Richard K), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

It's 2005 and I'm still happily giving a fuck for Pearl Jam AND Weezer. In fact, I still kind of give a fuck for the Smashing Pumpkins, defunct and dysfunction though they may now be. Can you even stand my pathetic retro ass? Should I 'live in the now'? How quaint that I 'give a fuck' for bands who, gasp, continue to put out music and tour. How perfectly rural of me.

Yipes. I guess I got more pissy than I meant to.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

oops, 'dysfunctional'

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

"This is why I'm concerned about buying his solo album because on the traxx I've heard the music roxx and the voice suxx"

dead on. the only track on the album that does it for me is the beegees cover, and that's just because robert's voice really fills out the sound well (that's right, bob's screeching wails actually sound really FULL compared to billy's...i'm not rely sure what to call it).

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)

Veg,

Living in the now is a sucker's bet too. I'm just saying you gotta stick with the guys who can still churn out good music in their old age, and abandon the ones that don't, no matter how awesome they were when you were 15. (And believe you me, when I was 15, Smashing Pumpkins, Rage Against The Machine and Korn were way awesome).

Paging Tom Waits...

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 03:46 (twenty years ago)

I'm just saying you gotta stick with the guys who can still churn out good music in their old age

Hurrah! I'm doing just that!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

i tuned out around age 20-21, when 'machina' came out. i actually liked 'adore' quite a bit though, or at least the front half. (that album had some fat on it.)

i definitely still care though, i loved 'siamese dream' and 'mellon collie' far too much to give up.

― rajeev (rajeev), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 04:05 (twenty years ago)

Whiney OTM. Good music is the only kind that comes along for the ride. Though I keep some of the ones who don't make good music around for novelty value and the sheer embarrassment of hearing them again. Limp Bizkit to thread. Oh the shame...

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 04:24 (twenty years ago)

I think there's an interesting age subtext in this thread due to the question. I'm 38 and cannot recall one single SP song. Never had an album, never knew anybody who liked them. I was busy listening to Stereolab, Bikini Kill and the New Bomb Turks as far as the hot new mid-90's things went. They seem to be pretty meaningful to you younger folks and perhaps some others. I think this is good, but have yet to hear anything that moves me personally.

― sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

Veg,

Props to you. I don't have the cajones to keep some of my "Fuck-you-I-was-15!" albums around.

Just add those 311 albums to the hefty pile already in the used bin.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

[Shudders] My husband adheres even more strongly to that school of thought than even I do. Can you say Methods Of Mayhem?

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

But rest assured, I don't just keep PJ, or Weezer, around becuase I liked them when I was 15. I still consider myself a fan, and I still consider them relevant. They still make good music, hence, I still listen to them.
Different strokes, etc.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)

i really wanted to hear "muzzle" a few days ago, so clearly i haven't entirely stopped giving a fuck, even if i have no plans on buying the billy corgan album or have even listened to adore or anything he's done after that. and i never did listen to that song, come to think of it. hmm.

― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)

The SP songs that really 'moved me' or whatever when I was a teenager I now find amusing and funny, but in a totally awesome way. This is basically true for everything on Mellon Collie.... probably the last Corgan-related song that I liked was actually "Turn My Way" from Get Ready, but I really liked it.

― mrjosh (mrjosh), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

I didn't; I've revered them (for better or worse) since I was 14 (I'm 23 now). They were the first group that was mine, but the intensity of my adoration started to wane around the time Adore came out, ironically enough.

I listened to SD last night and it still blew me away. And I've probably put that disc in 700 times.

― PB, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

"Turn My Way" is godhead.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

That it is.

I think there's an interesting age subtext in this thread due to the question. I'm 38 and cannot recall one single SP song.

I'm 34 and I am a fanatic, so I'm not sure you can draw it quite so cleanly. And I'm a Stereolab fanatic too! One does not preclude the other, etc.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

I stopped caring sometime before 1994. There are a few (five?) songs that I don't turn off when they come on the radio. Also, dudes, that James Iha solo album? Total crap.

― mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

loved Rhinoceros for about 2 weeks, hated everything since (except 1979 for about 2 days). hate and rage are split between the awful sound of their music/Corgan's awful voice and the millions of irritating asswhipes who buy their Smashing Pumpkins shirts from the mall and walk around like they're edgy and hip. also have extreme hate for Corgan appearing on a New Order album. Thankfully he held his head low for the shows he played with them.

― biz, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

I often wonder if a lot of the Pumpkins haters haven't inadvertently confused them with Rage Against The Machine?

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

the millions of irritating asswhipes who buy their Smashing Pumpkins shirts from the mall and walk around like they're edgy and hip

Yeah, to hell with those 12-year-old kids who wear the shirt of their favorite band. I suppose your t-shirts are all edgy and hip because they're homemade and have the name of some obscure local bands that no one will ever hear of.

― PB, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

"Siva" off Gish was the only video I sort of liked. I thought, "Hey, a Sonic Youth rip-off, but I like it enough." By their second video, I was turned off. Actually, I was turned off after watching the first video a couple times. I think I really only liked it for the blatant psychedelia.

― Stoner Guy, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

I was in 9th grade, so I guess 14 or 15?

― Stoner Guy, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe people still talk about this band like they are interesting/relevent. Same with Weezer and Pearl Jam. Aren't their entire fanbases just bunch of people who had good memories of a band in high school or college and just cant. let. this. shit. go.

1998. I was 18.

Incidentally, this sums up all of our feelings about Alex in NYC's Killing Joke obsession, right?

― Stoner Guy, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Fuck you.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Did that part of the post hit close to home PB? How did you know all my shirts were homemade and edgy?

Seriously though, it was like a switch got flipped. All of a sudden every kid i saw walking the streets had on a Smashing Pumpkins shirt. Same thing with Nirvana. I guess this rant belongs in the thread about wearing Band T-shirts so i'll leave it for now.

― biz, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe people still talk about this band like they are interesting/relevent. Same with Weezer and Pearl Jam. Aren't their entire fanbases just bunch of people who had good memories of a band in high school or college and just cant. let. this. shit. go.
1998. I was 18.

Incidentally, this sums up all of our feelings about Alex in NYC's Killing Joke obsession, right?

see? that's the shit I'm talking about! weak...Killing Joke was a pretty great band, why is liking them now against the law?

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Not that it matters, but Killing Joke ARE a great band (as in: still a going concern).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

xpost to Alex, sorry...didn't mean to suggest they weren't around anymore...I didn't get the last album though...cover art scurred me away.

the millions of irritating asswhipes who buy their Smashing Pumpkins shirts from the mall and walk around like they're edgy and hip.

I love it when little kids wear band t-shirts! It's the best...that age you have such a naive, genuine love of the band's their obsessed with...plus it's fun to pretend yr edgy and hip at that age, it's part of growing up; it's CUTE! I'd never begrudge anyone the fun of pretending yr hip and thinking that the band you love is yr own little secret club.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

It's no secret that I have a huge hang-up when it comes to band t-shirts, but I really don't see anything wrong with someone wearing a band-espousing t-shirt -- regardless of their age -- if they're truly into the band (and not just affecting a pose).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I was just having fun. Alex does seem to talk about KJ every 5 seconds, though.

― Stoner Guy, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Nine times out of ten, it's someone else that brings them up before I do.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

hmmmmm i lingered on being "ok" with it all untill 1995 (i was 18) but seeing 3 songs from their Lolopalooza set ended it. (especially after seeing boredomes earlier in the day)

when it comes down to it, I liked Gish for a time when some guy gaveme a tape in 89 or 90 (it had Pretty Hate Machine on the other side)...but they faded fast. I'm still boggled by the how i love 1979 thread...

alex is right...its become everyone elses' obsession at this point.

― b b, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

I haven't smashed any pumpkins since a mid-'80s Devil Night, when I was 17-18 and decided I was too old for silly childish vandalism. Haven't so much as walked through somebody's flowerbed ever since (except possibly while intoxicated.)

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

I bought Gish in the fall of 1991 when I was a high school senior. Excitedly bought Siamese Dream right when the record store opened on the day it came out. Bought Mellon Collie right about when it came out in the fall of '95, but I never really got into it like I did with the other ones. The "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" video really bothered and annoyed me, as did the fact that this song was played to death on my local college radio station. I still fucking hate that song.

The next summer I had to drive a van full of 15 year old kids 500 miles for a summer camp type thing - the only thing any of them wanted to hear was Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, repeatedly. All these kids just loved this album for some reason I just couldn't understand. I had Gish with me but nobody wanted to hear it.

So I pretty much stopped caring sometime between October of 95 and June of 96, when I was 21. Bought a copy of Adore used a few years ago because it was four bucks, but I've only listened to it once. Never heard Machina.

Ten years later, I still like Gish a lot, and like about half of Siamese Dream a lot, but the other half I find sort of annoying and embarrassing.

― joygoat (joygoat), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

I was never that much of a fan, liked Gish, Siamese Dream, and most of the big ol' double....1979 is classik, natch....I dunno but I hate these threads where the person who started takes this snooty, "Oh gawd, you people still care about XXXX. How pathetic!" tack...it's like what's the fucking difference...liking anything to a great degree is dorky and pathetic...Kool Kidz don't care about anything, that's the secret....I fail to see how being obsessed with MIA or Hold Steady or whatever is any worse/better than being obsessed with Smashing Pumpkins...they were a pretty good band I guess.

-- M@tt He1geson (matt@game[remove]informer.com), June 21st, 2005.

OTM

― latebloomer: We kissy kiss in the rear view (latebloomer), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

lessee here...
well, i gave up when jimmy got kicked out... so, i can pin-point it to july of 96.
then, became re-into them when jimmy came back and they decided loud gtrs. were part of the scheme again.
so, back on in 99 till i heard the new album, waned quite a bit, then heard Machina II, and thought 'what happened here??? why is this so much better than that?'.
then they were done again...

so, 91-96(till 18), then not again until 99-00 (21).
answer-21

― eedd, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

After Mellon Collie (sorry, 'Ava' fans). My age then? *cough* 28

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

I saw 'em live in 1993, I rhink. When I was 19. Didn't really know the songs, but Billy couldn't sing then, and he can't now, so I guess that was it.

― paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

loved 'drown' off the singles soundtrack. bought 'gish', loved the guitars. bought siamese dream, loved 3/4 of it. saw them play brixton, the show where billy dressed as a clown in response to an everett true review. he kept threatening to play 'drown', then saying we didn't deserve it. he never played it. that was the end.

i loved zwan tho.

― stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

It's weird. I was obsessed with "Siamese Dream," but I couldn't afford "Mellon Chollie" (it was a double CD, a big purchase at the time) and the title really bothered me, so I kind of lost interest right then. I guess I was 17?

― Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

It's weird. I was obsessed with "Siamese Dream," but I couldn't afford "Mellon Chollie" (it was a double CD, a big purchase at the time) and the title really bothered me, so I kind of lost interest right then. I guess I was 17?

(Vaguely on-topic, am I the only one who won't buy an album if I really hate the title? It was a big part of the reason I didn't give PJ Harvey's last record a chance, and there's a Quasi record that is supposed to be good that I will never hear, because the idea of buying something called "Hot Shit" bothers me so.)

― Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

In eleventh grade (93/94) my friend had a Smashing Pumpkins t-shirt. One time when we were drinking in her parents' garage, she put on whatever album was out then. That would be when I stopped caring.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

I never cared for them at all. I'm currently 18.

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

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