Which DJ Screw cd is worth buying?

who is Sir T.J. Music and why is his name credited as producer all over a Screw CD?

I know both of these are great. http://governmentnames.blogspot.com dlk recently did a rundown of ten great screw tapes.

http://www.screweduprecords.com/store2.asp

check out the site if you want to hear any screw shit. you're just seeing all the cash-in compilation shit. get the real thing.

if you want to know if they have a cd at any certain time, call them. shit, just call them up and ask them what tapes are classics. tell them you want a pac tape or some shit with fat pat going for 15 minutes or just pick based on a title or the year.

clears = the tapes they sell at screwed up records and tapes. i can't remember the chronology properly and i might be way off but i believe screw started releasing stuff on clear tapes as well as grey maxells in 1997. someone could tell you the exact first clear tape. but "clear" mostly refers to labeled tapes sur&t.

greys = originals. ("just pop in yo grey cassette, turn up yo fuckin deck / lend me your ear because the southside fitna wreck" "with a cup full of barre and a candy car / jammin on a robert davis grey tape")

except i have 'screw tape in the deck' which says "starring dj screw and the screwed up click." almost every track is credited to sir t.j. music. the productions are actually pretty damn great, but i'm wondering where screw fits in here?

i'm definitely really interested in the really long freestyle tracks. the few i've managed to download are amazing and so far i haven't found anything like that on these readily available cds. i'll have to order some stuff from that site though, thanks for the link.

the freestyle tracks aren't very long so maybe they're edited down from the tapes?

blue over grey = G.O.A.T.

since it hasn't been mentioned I'm gonna plug "autopsy" --- nice "seen a man die", nice freestyle over a heavy chop of the organ intro to "love and happiness"

This has got to be almost everything, right? :O

http://thegodfathertrilogy.blogspot.com/2009/02/dj-screw-discography.html

holy shit

holy fucking shit

i knew there was a reason we had the internet

finally gonna hear those top 10 screw tapes that DK listed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KldhMxZZLsk

15 min version of "one day" that kicks off endonesia is AMAZING

and I liked that too short track so I looked up the whole mix. lovin' how pitched-down faith evans sounds like nina simone or something.

this chops off the pretty crucial extended intro but hey:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4qntzxdoF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seca4gktgUc

anyone know what tape this is from? or the song that starts coming in towards the end?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOSUYSlL9CA

"cl'che and lil o tearing it up but lil flip tearing it all down. shit to give you goosebumps when he slowly gets faster and faster until he's damn near in quadruple time, making his flow normal speed thru that heavy screw down. flowing normal speed over a beat that's moving four times slower than he is. and doing it for real freestyle, spitting and spitting for ten minutes with barely a break. getting to the core of why flip was so cold back in the day and really amazing." i know what i mean if yall don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzm89yYjDy0

gs and ballas til we d-i-e
s-u-c the fam-i-ly
who i be f-l-i-p
nigga sucka free i represent
get head like the president
got more candy on my car than a peppermint
got girls from sterling, got girls from yates
deuces, 4s and 8s

the thing is, the fucking lines are just... "got more drank than doogie howser," "diamonds in ya face," "open my mouth say farewell to the dark," i could type them out all day, nigga hot like the hot boys, talkin bout we sittin sideways in the drop, boys. fuck. ME AND LIL WAS AT THE STUDIO THE OTHER DAY DOIN A SONG / SITTIN ON CHROME / WITH DENNY JONES / WITH YELLOWBONES FROM YELLOWSTONE / I SAID HIT ME ON MY NEXTEL TELEPHONE. let me say, first of all, now that wordplay in rap has slipped to where it fucking is now, nobody got anything to say to flip rhyming astrodome and chrome a million times. he rhymes onamatopeia and cheetah, too.

but the thing is, what i wanted to say is, the thing that fucks me up, is that the lines, are beautiful but inconsequential in a lot of ways, the thing that is amazing is the way he's flowing. i was reading that movie thread on ilx today and someone made fun of citizen kane lovers talking about how orson welles was scultping in time or whatever, and that's what flip is doing, using his flow to stretch and compress time, speeding up and slowing down, changing the rhythm of it. i can't musically describe it because i don't have the words.

shit, he's actually lyrically ridiculous on this, too. so, i don't know. fucks me up. and he was 17 years old when he did this. let me try to find the other flip freestyle off this tape.

oh shit... realest rhymin..... i love this version...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDTTh7-qKkU

can't stop the shine, bump and grind again
once more in yo store, independent top 10
i made mistakes in '98
'99 will be better
88 degrees, feel like some pop roof weather

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPJ5UMv-l84

i haven't heard these songs in forever

haaaa-----AAAAVVEEE YOU EVER SEEN A candy coated EXXXXXCURSION
swang and BANG still grippin grain

when i heard this music i always had these pictures in my head when i heard them. this is pre-youtube and you'd see, like, a dude's independent video in avi format downloadable on the screwshop forum, filmed on some bullshit camcorder, or a cracky old vhs copied "tops drop," and it would sort of fill your imagination with how the music looked, like kids seeing south bronx early rap videos on mtv in the 80s or something. i was like, oh shit??? it looks like that??? everything is described so precisely, the motor in the cadillac, what the fucking wheel looks like, the poke, the spokes, the grille. the subject matter is limited, so it leads to this microscopic focus on things like the sensual qualities of a styrofoam cup or the smell of a certain brand of cigar or a candy coated excursion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aJdMVR9c-A

this ain't screw or anything. but i was talking about flip. this is a top 10 of all time rap verse.

i'm on 84s and i'm actin bad
my paint job look like a maxi pad
they call me lil flip, man i thought you knew
i'm the first one to freestyle ten minutes on screw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6astqiHSLc

yungstar okay, right? but big pokey is the rapper out of s.u.c. that never got the love he shoulda got. even paul wall put him on a song when he got his shot. his undergrounds and albums are the most solid and he's one of the few (like keke, fat pat) who is dead serious on every flow.

rocked up a quarter, threw on my damn starter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy1Iz7t0-qs

one last thing. forgot about dre. z-ro.

i got too many problems on my mind
7.26s in my 9
if you lookin for z-ro, come to ridgemont
whether slangin or rappin i'm still on my grind

r.i.p. dj screw

bump for salem fans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HSaAneLZUY

dylannn = dk?

yeah

coda is u&k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-moZkLvCMqA

huh that worked earlier & is broken now. ne way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ZBgpZKjwk

if a mod is reading and wants to remove the broken one that would be cool

anyway i bumped this thread because there are lots of cool youtubes above.

before i had ever heard dj screw i always imagined it as, like, ugly & pitch shifted to the point of monstrousness from the way people talked about it and the association with cough syrup. i was so surprised by how beautiful it all actually is. so decadent & lavish imo

wow, that's amazing.

know screw tape that youtube is taken from? will definitely be seeking out that whole mix.

damn, is that an autechre sample? melody sounds reeeeeal familiar.

know screw tape that youtube is taken from?

'N 2 deep I think ----

lol @ screw newbs

lol @ condescending dicks

Thanks reacher, btw.

oh stop crying ffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I0Fph87aCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLvY9dD5QgI&feature=player_embedded

yeah man more the merrier, Mr. Robert Davis *still* screwin the world up ----

xp

fwiw i am not such a screwjack that i hadn't heard any until today/this thread. although my induction was only like a year ago. not that there's anything wrong with that -- everyone has a first time they listen to dj screw & they shouldn't feel any pressure to try it before they feel ready, and with someone they're comfortable with

man dk was so great:

when i heard this music i always had these pictures in my head when i heard them. this is pre-youtube and you'd see, like, a dude's independent video in avi format downloadable on the screwshop forum, filmed on some bullshit camcorder, or a cracky old vhs copied "tops drop," and it would sort of fill your imagination with how the music looked, like kids seeing south bronx early rap videos on mtv in the 80s or something. i was like, oh shit??? it looks like that??? everything is described so precisely, the motor in the cadillac, what the fucking wheel looks like, the poke, the spokes, the grille. the subject matter is limited, so it leads to this microscopic focus on things like the sensual qualities of a styrofoam cup or the smell of a certain brand of cigar or a candy coated excursion.

― dylannn, Saturday, March 6, 2010 6:30 AM (7 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=015aPulbDcE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYSPYqtVm_0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPd18a4_k_w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IUEkJ9_uek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-c0LUvilGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl1lGiRY0Wk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBTm5c45uo4

rip screw, the greatest.

there are a billion dj screw discs and songs on emusic. no idea where to start. i loved his slowed-down, bizzaro version of phil collins' in the air tonight, but that doesn't appear to be in emusic's dj screw catalog. is that because screw's reimaginations of other artist's work doesn't often appear on commercially-available tapes/discs (presumably for copyright-related issues)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmIbGLE2XR0&feature=player_embedded#at=54

thread is ILM at its best 10x thanks to all

univ of houston library acquires dj screw's record collection, will be made available for researchers in 2013:

http://www.29-95.com/music/story/dj-screw-vinyl-headed-u-h

that's awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y87-AUpyORI

unlike a lot of southern rap that when you slow it down sounds like getting stoned and laying in the sun, all the snappy drums soft like beach stones, this e-40 track sounds almost overwhelmingly eerie and tuneless. i've always liked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUkPdHpEJ2s

i should have written something about street military back when i was super into that kind of honest mean bluecollar houston rap that's mostly disappeared now, an old man rapper thing-- except for trae and z-ro, who i still associate with that sort of thing and who still shoutout incarcerated street military members. i dunno, it's a really specific style. swisher sweets. poverty. people getting robbed. it's a style that's sort of in opposition to a lot of the screwed up click stuff. no styrofoam cups. fewer candy cars. sounds amazing stretched out chopped up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Z_UISV_UE

one last thing.

nice one dylannn, i love hearing people's favourites - chances are they aren't the same as my own. I've been making a playlist of the slower jams from all the chapters - and found this absolute gem recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOmn4lvCpZc

Fuuuuck.

that's beautiful. all the edges rounded off. there are these certain sounds, slowed down, that sort of fade in and out of the white noise in the background. it's all the whistles and creaks in stuff like this that slip in and out of that white noise haze.

og ron c still puts out slowed down slowjam mixes. fuck action series is up to the 60s, now. michael watts had straight to tha room. i should have written about them when i was really into them. greasy lush r&b and slowjam stuff. but not the same. not the same. missing hazy beauty and lazy cuts and willingness to stretch things on and on.

damn it's sort of eerie how fat pat shouted out his eventual killer on his last screw tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9lemhdk0Z8

not really related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZeu29nOwjw

June 27th!
tknjlc 8 hours ago

I think I just bought the ugliest t-shirt ever made:

http://donutsthestore.co.uk/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/DSC_0020.jpg

Maaan, I hadn't heard the original Elbow's Swang by .380 before coming to this thread yesterday. Classic track.

hey dylannn, curious to know your favorite chapters. a few of mine are: Laftex, No Drank, pullin on your curve, barre, in the zone, layed back rollin....

http://governmentnames.blogspot.com/2005/06/ten-screw-tapes-every-south-rapper.html <--these were his favs in 2005, linked by ethan early in the thread. sorry to butt in, but he rarely links to his stuff & it's a great read

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSmMoVf1j_8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXXTsHylvVk

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/03/21/low_info_lingo_chop_and_screw

http://governmentnames.blogspot.com/2005/06/ten-screw-tapes-every-south-rapper.html <--these were his favs in 2005, linked by ethan early in the thread. sorry to butt in, but he rarely links to his stuff & it's a great read

Ahh yes, thanks i didn't see the link earlier. I remember reading that blog entry a few years ago, it's good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWIwl7uXqPA

old school 1994, everyone should hear it.

i think part of what held an unfortunate appeal to me with dj screw was the difficulty in finding certain recordings, the dispassionate notes of collectors, the geographical barriers that existed in tracking down tapes. i wrote the list of then during the golden age of music piracy, when i downloaded everything i heard-- except screw tapes. i probably compiled that list of ten tapes from a longlist of, let's say, fifteen, sixteen that i had actually heard.

so, there was a need to delve into the individual character of each tape, analyzing the dramatis personae, the history of it, breaking down song selection and seemingly innocuous quirks. even if they weren't great on first listen, they'd be fucking amazing after you had researched every aspect that was researchable. their scarcity made them treasures for me.

i was still coming down two 12s in my chevy trunk blowing swisher smoke behind tints but because i was into those innocuous quirks, i probably overrated the freestyle-heavy tapes. some of the entries on that list are on there because i hadn't heard very many tapes and because i liked tracking down references and shouted out marginal characters and i was in love with the style of rapping and the content of it, which was produced by constraints placed on subject matter which led to the microscopic dedicated descriptions of styrofoam cups and the effects of promethazine and hydrocodone.

i find 96 live boring as fuck but it's right in the middle of that list.

i really like these two right now:

wineberry over gold all westcoast hard raps and it took me nearly ten years later to start fucking with westcoast ogs like e-40, ant banks, cube. it's 1 am, "wassup P-A-T, wanna do something off this beat?" fat pat wipes greasy synths away with the back of his hand, takes a sip of barre, militant lazy north-south rivalry lines shooting up funerals to preserve the pride of the southside beset by northside stickup kids taking the physical jewels of the south and the intangible cultural practices etc.

hurricane duck man soul ii soul with those big drmmms into street military atari granulated whines and horn moans into a freestyle by screw's barber. i done popped that trunk.

I'm trying to listen to all the freestyle only (or mostly freestyle) tapes screw put together.

I've found a few so far but I haven't done much digging so i've probably missed some obvious ones, here are the ones i've got so far:

No Drank
Hellraiser
Ain't no Sleepin
So Much Pain
10 Deep (B Side)

any suggestions? dylannn? anyone?

Good day to bump this thread!

Also, to answer your question: June 27!

this is from june 27th:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Kbpz2zL9I

on 10 Deep fat pat and lil keke freestyle over this―it's incredibly mellow. but this one with shoutouts is beautiful too, and i like how he lets the hook play out.

he spends the last 7 minutes of this just jamming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnh72tiiTdA

from on codiene fiend. i used to think the line went "just to show that i ain't no fake / i bang that Last Night Pride out, jamming my screw tape" last night pride! sounded like the greatest screw tape ever.

http://www.complex.com/music/2013/11/dj-screw-10-best-mixtapes/

Good work by Dylann(?)

ok lol How Kanye West Would Dress if He Lived in Different Neighborhoods of Brooklyn

awesome

the "good times" thread on this runs for about ohhhhhh the first 35 minutes of disc 1 and it kills me. so great. could listen to it twist and turn for hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htf-kMWswJ8