Please recommend some NEW dark, sweaty Arabic music!

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This is probably gonna be a lonely thread, but there are some afficionados here, so who knows... I'm thinking modern belly dancing music and Raï that's not too watered down for Western audiences.

Die Emanzipation von Baaderonixx (redukt) (Fabfunk), Monday, 27 June 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Telephone Poles
http://www.geocities.com/telephonepolesmusic

Yes!

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

Err...?

Die Emanzipation von Baaderonixx (redukt) (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)

The Poles sound retarded to me. What's up w/ the new sweaty Arabic music, dough?

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

Go to Washington DC, on the mall for free:

"Drums also feature prominently in the program of music from Oman. The three large music and dance ensembles appearing from this Arabian Peninsula nation blend traditional Arabic vocals with percussion drawn from both South Asian and African traditions. The festival runs through Monday, June 27, then picks up again Thursday, June 30, to run through Monday, July 4, on the National Mall between 7th and 14th Streets NW. Live musical performances and demonstrations are presented from 11 a.m. to 5:30 p.m., with special celebrations, performances, and concerts continuing until 9 p.m.

steve-k, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

x-post:

Maybe browse here: http://www.rashid.com/search_result.asp?special=New+Release

There is generally a lot of belly dance music there. I'm not too familiar with that end of things (or with rai).

I do know I plan on buying the new DJ Cheb I Sabbah album, La Kahena.

I liked the CD Syrian singer Yousef Shamoun put out this year, Taneh Wu Raneh, but I'm not sure that will sound dark and sweaty enough for you. It has some cheesy moments, but I think if you pay attention to the rhythms, it's got a real pleasantly heavy feel to it.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

(Also, you could buy some compilations like the ones listed in the new releases part of the Rashid website, though I think you'd be better off buying them as cheap cassettes if you can find them. Because most of that stuff is pretty dud to me.)

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Or browse here: http://www.maqam.com/cgi-bin/cdtest.cgi?new_release=1

Their selection tends to overlap by about 75% at least.

(I know these are the sites I always link to.)

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

This Cheb i Sabbah CD looks interesting, the presence of Richard Horowitz somewhat offsetting Bill Laswell's...

Die Emanzipation von Baaderonixx (redukt) (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

John/Vornado likes its: Arabic music (not elsewhere classified)

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

Couldnt find it in my local store...
Let's extend this thread to new arabic music, more on the percussive side.

Baaderonixx le Belge (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Do you remember anything you did see in your local store?

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

Hah, not really. I'm totally ignorant w/r/t to this stuff. I saw a lot of "big in europe" type of guys, Khaled, Taha, Faudel, etc. and then obscure stuff divided by countries. I guess I'm looking for stuff that's fast and percussive, as opposed to schmaltzy.
Any guidelines appreciated. Are there big differences for example between stuff from Maghreb and stuff from Mashrek?
In the end, I just got a Fairuz compilation last night.

Baaderonixx le Belge (Fabfunk), Thursday, 30 June 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

Are there big differences for example between stuff from Maghreb and stuff from Mashrek?

I'd say there are, yes, because you have remnants of traditions from before Arabs invaded, plus you have traditions brought to the region by Africans from further south (brought as slaves, I think). The rhythms can sound pretty distinctively African, rather than Arab, at times. There are rhythms widely used in one region that aren't found in the other (unless there is some conscious borrowing going on). It's complicated, and although I've listened to enough to recognize regional/national styles in many cases, I don't know it in any real detail.

Percussionist Mahmoud Fadl (an ethnically Nubian Egyptian, like Hamza el Din) seems to be pretty solid, though I've only heard one CD all the way through. His recordings might turn up in a mainstream store. Zein al-Jundi: Traditional Songs from Syria (2004) is pretty good although I don't like her voice much and I'm not sure what you'd think of it. It's not all fast either. But it's a good show-case of Syrian rhythms.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 30 June 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

The stuff I've heard by Setrak is pretty good, and he seems to be well-regarded, in general, not just by people who are fans of belly dance music. I think I've seen his CDs in Tower or HMV occasionally. Might be a little too smooth for you.

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

He had a sort of hit album around the time I was starting to get into Arabic music, Setrak and Ranine. I got one of my friends into listening to it while driving around. Very good driving music.

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Any new ideas?

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Saturday, 10 February 2007 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

Asalah - "Rasak"

Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 10 February 2007 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I like the new Rachid Taha album, Diwan 2, but I've mentioned that a lot elsewhere.

Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 10 February 2007 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, the name above should not be "Asalah," but Ahlam!

Fela - "Boustan El Fol"

Nour Mhanna - "Ya Hasidin Al Nas"

Mohammad Iskandar - Hakini

Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 10 February 2007 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe not the Mohammad Iskandar. I don't like it too much any more, even though it was a favorite album from a couple years ago.

Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 10 February 2007 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Rachid Taha, Diwan 2, seconded.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 10 February 2007 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Also, the song isn't "Rasak" but "Nawilak." (I forgot to consider that the songs list on the column furthest to the right might actually be the first songs on the CD.) "Rasak" is kind of interesting too though. Please ban me from this thread.

Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 10 February 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

the bobby and nihal show

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/bobbyandnihal/index.shtml

plays a lot of desi, which seems to be r&b/hiphop/drumNbass/house/grime/mashups but with indian vocals. some of it may be a bit watered down for you in that it's somethimes like 70=80% western and less eastern (like, the a track might sound like your standard-issue r&b except with an indian singer and light tabla) but a lot of the stuff is more mixed up and often quite cool...

messiahwannabe, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 16:49 (seventeen years ago)

A desi posting might go better here:

Who can recomend some good Bhangra

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 17:37 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not sure about 'dark' or 'sweaty' but Omar Souleyman, the Syrian wedding musician who has an anthology out on Sublime Frequencies, is certainly 'awesome' and 'hectic'.

Doran, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 20:06 (seventeen years ago)

And on a slightly less authentic tip (i.e. the album should have been called 'Hard Rock From Greenwich Village, NY'):

Doran, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

Ah, right, it says NEW in big letters in the thread title doesn't it?

Doran, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 20:20 (seventeen years ago)

I gotta get Souleyman

curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 May 2009 02:51 (seventeen years ago)

"A desi posting might go better here:"

yeah but i was searching "arabic" before i posted a question about arabic stuff and this came up, so i added what i hoped would be a useful answer to the question. look, there's a bit of overlap in all these subjects so if you guys wanted to stop being all pedantic about it would probably be ok

messiahwannabe, Thursday, 21 May 2009 05:12 (seventeen years ago)

Technically Kurdish, not Arabic, but the two albums I have by Aynur Doğan (Keçe Kurdan, 2004, and Nûpel, 2005) are dark, passionate, and have well-defined, resonant production (her Istanbul producers listened to RealWorld ethnic recordings, certainly). I discovered her through the doc Crossing the Bridge, and she's easily the best thing in it:

The albums allow a bit more modernity in, with huge-sounding frame drumming and occasional analog pads, and non-intrusive Cairo strings on a few tracks. Too often middle-eastern passion has cringe-worthy production missteps that date it badly. Maybe that fate will befall these, but not yet.

Derelict, Friday, 22 May 2009 16:58 (seventeen years ago)


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