I Am A Rap Maniac! (This Thread Is For All The Party People)

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traded in a bunch of stupid CDs that i got in the mail for some tapes yesterday at the store. mad mike, my main man at the record shop has lotsa old stock up in attic and he lets me dig around. tons of late-80's/early 90's stuff that he bought from a long-gone record store years ago. and i just happen to love tapes! and they are all sealed, so they smell like the day they were born when you open them up. anyway, here's what i got:

Young M.C. - Brainstorm (what a great record! I'd never heard it.)

3rd Bass - Derelicts Of Dialect

Big Daddy Kane - Long Live The Kane (brings me back to my early days in philly)

Fu-Schnickens - F.U. "Don't Take It Personal"

Me Phi Me - One (Um, this is completely bizarre. I'm gonna have to write about this one. I don't even know where to begin...)

K.M.D. - Mr.Hood

Mellow Man Ace - Escape From Havana (I had forgotten how much this record rules. Holy Toledo!)

Kool Moe Dee - Knowledge Is King (Completely surprised me by how wonderful it was. Other than Rap City videos, I wasn't keeping close tabs on Moe in 1989.)

Nice & Smooth - Noce & Smooth (Never heard it. Can't wait!)

UTFO - Doin' It

K-Solo - Times Up (My new favorite record.)

Crusaders For Real Hip-Hop - Deja Vu - It's 82 (I'm saving this for last! I don't remember them AT ALL. Was Just Ice the first person to go back to the old school? In the 80's, right? So, he wins the prize, i think.)

Steady B - Let The Hustlers Play (complete and utter illadelph classic. everyone should own this and steady's debut.)

Three Times Dope - Live From Acknickulous Land (Not faves of mine - other than "Funky Dividends" which isn't on this record - but they also represent the city of brotherly love, so i gotta stand behind them.)

Male -vs- Female:Battle Of The Sexes (Jive comp from 1988.Two Live Crew, Schooly D, Just Ice, Too Short, Dynasty & Mimi, Wee Papa Girl Rappers, Salt & Pepa, Anquette, Ms.Melodie, M.C. Lyte)

M.C. Brains - Loverslane (Never heard it.)

Marley Marl in Control Volume II (Kevy Kev! Ak B! Pure Cane Sugar! Nexx Phase! Oh, the list goes on and on.)

A+ - The Latch-Key Kid (??? Where are you now, A+???)

YoYo - Black Pearl

Sway & King Tech - Concrete Jungle

Son Of Bazerk - Featuring No Self Control & The Band

Chubb Rock - The One

Queen Latifah - All Hail The Queen ( I honestly don't think I've heard this whole album since the year it came out.)

Spice 1 - Spice 1

Kid Frost - East Side Story

The Get Fresh Girls - Trickin' (I Seen Your Boyfriend)

Kwame & A New Beginning - Nastee

Battle Of The DJ's (Jive comp with stuff like Eric B Is President & A.J. Scratch and stuff like that on it.)

West Coast Rap - The Renegades (Excello comp with Captain Rapp! Madrok! The Egyptian Lover! King M.C.! Rodney O & Joe Cooley! Kid Solo! Excalibur! Uncle Jam's Army! 2 Bigg MC!)

Livin' Large Soundtrack (Jungle Brothers, Newkirk, Terminator X, Nice & Smooth, Slick Rick with Mr.Lee, The Famlee, Alyson Williams, Downtown Science, Herbie Hancock & The Don)

I also got Profile's Gotta Have House Vol 2 (vol 1 changed my life a little), a Front 242 comp called No Comment, A Michael Franks album I didn't have (For my ongoing Michael Franks review project. And MF is actually on that Me Phi Me album!!!!), a Testament tape, Turn It Up (an awesome Next Plateau remix tape with C-Bank, Princess, Solo, Sweet Sensation, Carl Bean, Salt & Pepa, Charlie Rock, Kelly Charles, Billy Ocean, Sonya Baines, Voices In The dark, Deja Vu, Sybil, and Modern-Nique on it.), a Profile comp from 1991 called The Best Of Techno Vol.1 (with lots of stuff I've never heard on it.), and a Technotronic remix album called Trip On This with remixes by Todd Terry, Shep Pettibone, David Morales, & Bernard Sumner of New Order.

Of the rap ones though, which is your fave? If you have a fave.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Son of Bazerk in a landslide

Mannie Rippaton (AK.), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Cetainly some gems in that batch!

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

"Brainstorm" was totally slept-on.

The Nice And Smooth totally holds up against anything out today.

I'm SO fucking jealous that you got the K-Solo... so out of print.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that K-Solo was nice.

I'd always wondered about 3XD's album. I loved the singles.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

How does Time's Up compare to Tell the World My Name? I probably forgot about K-Solo. A year was like two decades then.

Mannie Rippaton (AK.), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Sweet scott....I'll second the Son of Bazerk love...amazing record...Bomb Squad's finest hour?

I thought Derelicts of Dialect was sweet too....I'd love that K-Solo...does that have Spellbound on it?

Chubb Rock was sweet too....god I love late 80s/early 90s rap!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone ever heard the Red Hot Lover Lover Tone album?

I almost bought that and then I never did back in the day...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

I just noticed Me Phi Me! There's a Michael Franks feature on that.

Mannie Rippaton (AK.), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Steady B - Let The Hustlers Play (complete and utter illadelph classic. everyone should own this and steady's debut.)

Steady B is in jail for life I think on a murder charge associated with a bank robbery...his partner in the robbery, who's also in jail, was the one and only almighty Cool C, of the Hilltop Hustlers...His album is great too...it has The Glamourous Life and Juice Crew Diss...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Times Up is musically just a great EPMD album with a rapper who sounds really young & hungry. Whereas, EPMD always sounded like they just ate. (I love them though! don't get me wrong!)

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Oops -- sorry scott.

I gotta habit of not reading stuff.

Mannie Rippaton (AK.), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Three Times Dope for "Greatest Man Alive" and "Funky Dividends"

ah, cool c and steady b. 'going steady' one of my all time favs.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Son of Bazerk was ridiculous. I remember some proto-backpack rap fans in my neighborhood turning me on to them.

Derelicts of Dialect was awesome.

Those comp tapes sound amazing, too. I had a couple of old comp tapes with UTFO, Roxanne, Rappin' Duke, etc...they gave me a real education, and I ACTUALLY remembered Rappin' Duke when Biggie name checked him. Shawn Brown, where have you gone?

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it's sad about Steady. I remember when that happened. They killed a cop, i think. I was never a big Cool C fan.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Male -vs- Female:Battle Of The Sexes

This has "I Cram to Understand U (Sam)" on it, so therefore it's the best. I rate Long Live the Kane as the most-slept-on old-school album in history, pure gold from head to toe, especially Scoob Lover's verses at the end of side one

"I got the *hic* hiccups, excuse me, sorry
Score a hundred Gs every time I play Atari"

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Good lord

"Mr hood". Classic. Nuff said, although i do prefer "black bastards". "Derelicts of dialect" is also classic. I prefer it to "cactus".

Never really got into the Son Of Bazerk album, although everybody tells me i should get another copy.

I'm not a huge fan of female rappers but the Latifah album is great. Some classic 45 King production on there.

You're definately in for a treat with the Nice & Smooth album. It has one really corny love song that goes on for about 6 days or something but other than that it bumps throughout. From a production standpoint, it's really underrated because the beats on there are nuts. There are a few staple James Brown/Ultimate Breaks & Beats samples on there but it's mostly very original sounding. Nice throwback to Coldcrush and Super 3 with the harmonising too. That lp is near classic for me.

Agreed on the Steady B album being classic. That 3xDope album is pretty sought after these days and goes for very decent prices.

That second Marley Marl about was trash apart from the L.L Cool J "i be gettin' busy" dis track towards Kool Moe Dee and the track with Chuck D and Intelligent Hoodlum/Tragedy.

Ellis From Die Hard, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Cool C only had a handful of good tracks. "Juice crew dis" and "down to the grissle" were his best.

Ellis From Die Hard, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Remember when rap songs were called things like "Funky Dividends"?

Edgware General (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Hey Scott, you should buy this CD:

http://www.tonevendor.com/item/9546

It's called Classic Material: Philadelphia...it's got tons of great stuff on it...Cool C...Steady B....Schooly D (also Schooly rapping under the alias Pimp Pretty with a dude called Royal Ron who RAPS IN IG-PAY ATIN-LAY!!!!)

also a crazy wierd song called "Discomboobulatorbobulator" by some kid...it's a strange song....got banned because it's got a lot of kinda mean anti-chinese business owner stuff (it's sort of a la-di-da-di type story song where he gets in a fight with a chinese restuarant owner over a soda....also he kills his cat and gets sent to jail for graffiti and then does this sing-song thing based on the jefferson's theme song where he gets raped in prison)....anyway, it's kinda interesting becuz when he's imitating the chinese guy I think that's where Missy Elliot stole the "toy toy thai-a-thai-toya toy" thing from Work It where she talks about black white indian chinese boys....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

A year was like two decades then

OTM

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

the one Dust Brothers track on that Mellow Man Ace album, "Hip Hop Creature" is great. I was really digging that album last night. Yeah, I'm gonna put on that Nice & Smooth album after the kids (and momma) wake up from their nap. I'm excited to hear it.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

I still proudly rock
my "Three Times Dope" vinyl loud,
"Greatest Man Alive"

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

the chubb rock album is so very good. whatever happened to chubb?

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

the ones i've heard of these i love...except mi phi me. whats your take there scott?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

i don't know what to think of it yet. it was kinda freakin' me out last night. i never made it to the second side. it's beyond weird. the whole fraternity/cult thing. the krisna kind of vibe it has. the classical guitar...

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

the pop hooks

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

very poppy!!! like sunshine goopy bubblegum hooks that go on forever. very trippy really.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

Geesh:
Let the Hustlers Play
Steady B

1 used & new from $199.00
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000008L49

lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

there was another long haired weirdo with a hip hop record at around the same time...ah, can't remember. cover kind of psychedelic with him diving backwards on it...?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

it looks like that k-solo on cd isn't that pricey. this auction has two hours left and it's only up to five bucks:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4741371706

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

Long Live The Kane is my fave out of these

that Kool Moe Dee is good, but I like his earlier LPs better

does that K Solo have "Your Moms In My Business"?? classic

Sons of Bazerk rapped about their bozacks? or was their a group named Sons of Bozack that I'm confusing?

Gotta Have House Vol 2 was cool

3rd bass blws dead dogs

peace out

Me Phi Me I reviewed and compared to Basehead (member him?) that Young MC I wrote about too but I can't re...at all.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

but basehead is about getting sloppy drunk over sloppy drunk music!

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)

"3rd bass blws dead dogs"

really, ooh, this will be good. why do you hate them? i always liked them. especially the music. they had such talented people making music with them. i could do without the master race stuff. they could be heavyhanded. or serch could. he always tried so damned hard. but how could you hate pete nice? he had such a great act. Derelicts has some really great stuff on it. (all i need to hear is that godzilla riff and i'm happy.)

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

"You're definately in for a treat with the Nice & Smooth album. It has one really corny love song that goes on for about 6 days"

I like it a lot! And the love song is the second song on the album! and it is endless. But just for the line "My jimmy is not for sale" alone, it's a keeper.

That Sway & Tech album has some great stuff on it too. These tapes make me love life.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

You must really love life, try Telephone Poles

http://www.geocities.com/telephonepolesmusic

Thanks, Brian Hall.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

xpost

scott you're so REASONABLE it shames me.

always seemed liked 3rd Bass just tried WAY too hard, their "black like me" shtick made it hard to hear what they were doing musically. but yo B, they just products of the environment.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

another nod to Son of Bazerk. I must dig that tape out again.

gspm (gspm), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

but yo B, they just products of the environment.

you may be right to an extent, but I will stand by the Cactus Album as having some of the best production of that era...it was pretty much a who's who of NYC producers...Bomb Squad, Prince Paul, the too often forgotten Sam Sever (who was in Downtown Science too, with that awesome Firm sample on Radioactive)....

but also Serch WAS pretty well respected in the hip hop scene, I think he got Nas signed (hence the "I know who you pay - Serchlite Publishing" line in The Takeover by Jay-Z)...Serch was a great rapper I thought....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I was there at the taping of Rapmania at the Apollo, you should have HEARD how much love 3rd Bass got from the crowd for saying "musta been a white guy that started all that". Completely the biggest ovation of the night.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Serch was kinda corny and did try too hard to be black, as i'm sure he'd agree, but he was a good rapper and was executive producer of 3 classic albums ("illmatic", "word..life" by O.C and "it was written") post-3rd Bass.

The story about Hammer putting a hit on 3rd Bass for dissing him is classic.

Ellis From Die Hard, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

as if i don't have enough to listen to, today at the thrift store, i picked up a sealed copy of Hip Hop Fever, the Fever Records comp. And it was on CD! Not tape. I am moving into the 21st century. Great stuff. Sweet G, MC Chill, Luv Bug Starski, Gucciman, The Cover Girls, III Most Wanted, etc.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

the chubb rock album is so very good. whatever happened to chubb?

He went to the early 90s rap personality/rapper old folks' home a.k.a. Power 105 FM NYC.

Candicissima (candicissima), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)


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